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I just dont like those pansie assed ones like "HAYE GURLLLLLLL HOW YA DOIN??" "LIEK OMG THATS FABULOUS!"

What do you mean by that? Just GTFO I don't want you to be in sight or don't hit on me?

Gay: Can i lickz ur butthole?
Hej: Wat?
Gay: Oop.

A lot of people I know hold this same view. I personally don't like them either, and I'm Bi. Also, seriously licking someones ass is just gross lulz...

wow smurf how narrow minded. What do you know that homosexuality will bring to the table? Homosexuality isn't there just to be there you know, and especially if i was brought on by NATURE. Drugs, stupid music, that was brought by HUMANS homosexuality was not.

Hmmmm.....A lot of guys think ladies kissing ladies is pretty secksie but do women think guys kissing guys is secksie also?

Aww, c'mon, me and my friends say that all the time!

It's like, me and my friends' little language...

and also things like:

Me: OMG!!!
Other Person: what?
Me: I'M FABULOUS!

*with a really high voice... I love doing that....

Dunno, allways big fun doing things that attract people's attention...

one of my girl friends think guys making out is hot...

Guys making out... mmmm... Does not fit the general macho image i guess, we have to be cool, and make out with 5 blonde naked chicks at the time.

Which is prolly why some people find it weird.

And yes, i know some girls who totally like 2 men making out. it's not rare actually.

and yes, 2 girls is yumyum ;p

*Sigh* For the prevention of a flame-war I will explain what causes homosexuality in mammalian creatures.

In the brain there is an organ called the Hypothalamus, the Hypothalamus controls sexual attraction. In the natural world this "organ" is geared to cause the creature to be attracted to a creature of the opposite sex. The Hypothalamus is purely biological, there is no choice in being straight or not.

Now here is where things get different.

While in the womb a child is exposed to different chemicals, a male child exposed to an excess amount of estrogen will develop a hypothalamus shaped like a female's, the male will then grow being attracted to other males rather than females because his hypothalamus acts like a female's. The same applies to females except replace estrogen with testosterone.

At first this was all simply theoretical and most straight people sided and fervently defended the "fact" (yes we labeled a fact) that being gay is a choice and people can change back or be changed back anytime. Now there have been instances in society where a homosexual man sired a child or two, in these cases it was caused by social pressures to conform to societal standards. It is the nature of Humans to conform and we in fact have little choice in what we do when confroted with a group consensus opposite our own. I'll use a classic examples:

There are 5 lines, line 1 - 4 are different sizes and line B and 2 are the same size. A group of people are asked which line is the same length as line B. The confederates (group of people in cahoots with the experimenter) say line 1 is the same, line 1 is obviously different from line B. Now the subject is confronted with a challenge, the group has chosen an answer that doesn't actually go with what he/she knows yet 60% of the time the subject also picked line 1 even though it was obviously wrong.

Now that conformity is cleared back to the subject at hand: To test whether it was in fact a malfunctioning hypothalamus a group of Scottish scientist injected previously male homosexual sheep with testosterone, this made the sheep attracted to the opposite sex rather than the same sex. The scientist would then go and test it on a developing sheep, they exposed a male sheep in the womb to estrogen and succeeded in making a homosexual sheep. This brought many ethical questions in action: since we are now aware that homosexuality is a biological malfunction caused by exposure to chemicals in the womb is it ethical to change the sexual orientation of a homosexual human. What right do we have to "force" one to be what nature never assigned them to be?

Now that is there, time to de-bunk bisexuality with a classic experiment that most of us should be experienced with. Bi-Sexuality is in fact the result of a homosexual person being afraid to actually "come-out" because of the social pressures put on one to conform and fit the role of a typical male. In order to prove this a test was done countless times:

A group of bi-sexual (lets have them be male for consistency) were asked to watch pornography. Male on Male porn and Female on Female porn. They were told to say their level of attraction on a scale from one to ten, there were also probes attached to their genitals. The males while watching the female on female porn were asked to rate their level of attraction, they rated a 7. The then repeated this except with male on male porn, once again a 7. Here is where the surprise came in: The probes on the genitalia told another story; there was no reaction to the female pornography yet the male one produced an erection. Bi-sexual = homosexual in denial. This test has been done countless times and the result is always the same.

Several polls have also been taken to see if there is a correlation with certain environmental factors and homosexuality. There has never been a correlation even between environmental factors and homosexuality, yet all the evidence points to a malfunction hypothalamus due to chemical exposure in the womb.

So what have we learned?
Being homosexual is as natural and biological as being straight.
Being Bi is not possible no matter how you dress it up.

My policy is this: Be gay all you want, just keep it away from me and we're good.

I agree totally. I mean, it doesn't make sense, and when people say "there's nothing wrong with it" I always secretly think "Umm... Yes there is". I have no problem with it at all, if you're gay, that's fine, I don't care at all. But I just don't like it when people say that they're the exact same as straights because... Umm, no they're not.

I voted no, because I don't think it's immoral or something that should be erradicated. If you're gay, I can be your friend, but only if you're not a freaky gay or a girly gay. If you just like men, then k. If you're a girl and you like girls, then k too. That's actually pretty cool, not because it's "hot", but because then we have something to talk about y'know? I can be like "That new girl's a babe" and she'll be like "yeah, I wouldn't mind getting some of that..." But if it's a guy, I'll be like "That new girl's a babe" and he'll be like "Eww, I think that new guy is a hottie though".

So yeah, I'm not against it, but... Uhh... I'm not against it, that's all that matters I guess. I think gay people should be able to be together, get married and do whatever straight people do. They just sacrifice having biological babies with their lover, 'sides that though, they can have everything straights can...

Birds sing, dogs play with each others, all of those thing are useless, wont help them to survive, but it wont hurt them. Homosexuality stop reproduction, that's why I'm wondering why it's still present, it have been there for thousand of years wich is kinda dumb since it's against life cycle wich is like the most important part in the evolution of any species.


I'm not saying it's wrong, I totally accept it and approve it. But is anyone able to point what is beneficial to human survivability?

I don't mean to be a troll, but it would aid Fat_Smurf and Rainigul in their arguments if they read my second post in this thread. It helps confused straight people, like ourselves, understand what the hell is going on in the mind of a homosexual, literally.

i've had boyfriends and girlfriends and sex with both, i prefer guys but i had no problem getting it up when i was in the right mood with my lady. That being said i don't look at straight porn and any porn with 2 chicks will do nothing to stimulate me. I think bisexuality is very real and very possible, in short i agree with most of Alfred Kinsey's findings. That study you post, i've read about it b4 and i don't think its very reliable or gives ppl a good explanation of what it means to be bi-sexual, go look at wikipedia if you want a quick understanding.

As for your purely biological theory, and it is a theory, i and many ppl would disagree with you. The strongest proof against the utero theory is the case of Identical Twins. There have been very documented cases where 1 twins is very straight and the other is very gay. Since they're twins they share the same DNA and were exposed to the same utero conditions. Age and experience may have altered there paths you could say but this behavior has been observed in twins as young as 5-8 years old where clear sexual misidentification is already taking place.

I appreciate the amount of information you presented judge but none of it is concrete and if have been debunked by other reputable sources in one way or another. Things like this are the reason why i said gays must be Gods little trick because homosexuality as common as it is is quite the phenomenon and despite scientific study and research it remains something that is largely unexplainable.

who the hell cares if it is or isn't "natural" or "biological", a lot shit we do isn't "natural" or "biological"

being gay's not immoral at all, it's a lifestyle choice and we should respect that

I already knew that, but my post was confusing, it made me seem ali'l antigay I guess.
I'm ok with gays, I don't even need a reason to accept them, they're living beings which aren't parasites or anything, they're humans, my species, they're good.

The ONLY think that could be constrewed as bad about them is what Fat_Smurf has been saying, it's against human reproduction. That's ok, it's not like we need any more people, but they aren't exactly a "plus" if you will... We don't really need plusses though.
That makes me seem anti gay again, so forget that.

Pretty much what I mean is, imagine if everyone on earth died, except for a lesbian woman and a gay man. I have no doubt they're breed just for the sake of procreation, But imagine if we weren't in modern times? Imagine that 15,000 years ago, all of humanity was wiped out, except for a homosexual woman and man. They wouldn't know humanity was in dire danger, so they wouldn't breed, and humans would become extinct.

But yeah.... That's it... Nothing against gay's at all.

QFT my thoughts exactly. Was just about to post pretty much the same thing.

They never reported anything about checking the twin's brain structure , and yes it being "biological" is simply a theory. My bible - loving friends would go crazy with this topic, I'm glad they think games are a work of Satan. Ah yes, this brings a funny jab to mind: "If its hard sometimes all you need is a hole".

Good luck to the rest of you, I want to see more PoVs.

If you can make me laugh and can participate in a meaningful discussion, then i like you wether you are a guy, a girl, a lesbian, gay or anything.

Being extremist like Rainigul's example of straigh people wiped out is senseless. Straight people is the majority and probably will always be.

I'm not sure if homosexuality is biological or psychological but i have no problem with it. As i said, as long as people can think and share their thoughts, they are ok with me. It's not like their sexual life concerns me anyway

Conclusively, homosexuality is a question of genes, right?
Homosexuals have the right to freely act, as their genes order them to. Let us suppose we are standing face to face right now, and I have a naturally born killer gene. Am I empowered to kill you, having the right to act as my genes order me to?

I dont think there is conclusive evidence that explains why people are gay. The only thing I don't like about gays is that more than 50% of HIV cases is caused by gay people, while scientists are trying to figure out a way to defeat the virus, its going to keep killing more and more people.

http://hab.hrsa.gov/history/fact2005/men_with_men_and_hivaids.htm

Chris Rock said something like
"Shiet, you allays know he was gay too, evah since you lil kids, you was playin ball, he was skippin rope"

You can choose to not to kill him or you can choose to kill him, thats your decision. Just like Gay people can choose to be celibate or can choose to marry women and pretend to be straight. There is no natural born killer gene btw, there are genes that heighten aggression and hostility by over-producing certain chemicals. If you read the thread you'd realize that reason for homosexuality can't be found completely in genes anyway. Being homosexual is NOT a choice, having homosexual sex is a choice. See the difference? If you have a problem with the first your disliking someone for what they are. If you have a problem with the latter your disliking someone for who they are, see the difference?

What exactly are you trying to say....


BTW Jstar1 your statement is wrong because it completely leaves out the cases of AIDS/HIV in Africa and India which alone account for more than 50% of AIDS/HIV cases worldwide and thats gained either in utero or or some heterosexual sex. Not to mention that HIV is NOT CAUSED by gay people, i think thats the most ignorant thing you've ever posted. HIV is caused by AIDS which is contracted through UNPROTECTED SEX. Gay people didn't cause AIDS, we didn't invent it and please don't bring out that sex with monkey BS story the mostly likely CAUSE of AIDS was a created infection that spread outside its area of containment probably introduced into africa by a modified vaccine.

It isn't our fault others choose not to wear condoms...

Genetics and biology are different. The genes write the code, the chemicals take the code by the hands and show it a way. (not the way because there are several "paths"). There is no killer gene, although I read an article related to that subject, I can't remember the fine details.

@Xemnas, the sheep experiment didn't work 100% just most of the time. The twin argument is still strong though.

@J, 2-4% of the male population is gay. 3-6% of the female population is gay.



^winner? you typed it b4 me

@Xemnas again, actually the origin of AIDs has many theories most of which having to do with monkies, but not "sex with monkies". I could start another thread or just post it here.

Here we go: http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

Oh I should have changed my wording. I didn't mean to say that gays started AIDS or other nonsense. The site concludes its data for people in the united states only.

Yes its wrongs, there should be a death sentence for it in every country.

Listen, everybody needs people to laugh with.

May they be a straighty, a mo, a liz or a dog it doesn't matter as long as you can have fun.

But hey, ya'll know will and grace, I'm allways flat on my face of laughing from it, because of all the jokes about straights and gays, and I think lifeshould be seen like that (hell yeah, I've stolen alotta jokes from that serie, but anyways) and of corse it's allways racist, but hey, a straight girl could get drunk and make out with a girl, a straight guy could get drunk and make out with a guy, a straight guy could get drunk and make out with a guy and a girl at the same time, but they would still be straight, even though he/she made out with a guy/girl/both. It actually doesn't matter what you are, sexuality is a hoax. You can be whatever you want, no need to even be drunk, high, stoned, strunk, or just plain horny.

That is a little harsh... It's why I usually don't go around advertising things like this because of how there are gay bashers and stuff.