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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:35 am 
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Personally I like this thread about "After Death" but sometimes people think it's ok to attack others for their beliefs even today. Why is that?

Likely Immaturity

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:49 am 
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Its a hopeful theory, i'd love to be reborn as a human again, but I doubt it is real. Either way, I plan on living for eternity so I won't ever find out. :)

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:50 am 
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ThisIsAvalon wrote:
Its a hopeful theory, i'd love to be reborn as a human again, but I doubt it is real. Either way, I plan on living for eternity so I won't ever find out. :)

Question is. If you are reborn, will you be legit in the next life? ;) haha

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:48 am 
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ThisIsAvalon wrote:
Its a hopeful theory, i'd love to be reborn as a human again, but I doubt it is real. Either way, I plan on living for eternity so I won't ever find out. :)

Question is. If you are reborn, will you be legit in the next life? ;) haha


What do you mean legit?

Redborn->Amnesia->Done Deal

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:39 am 
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San wrote:
If anyone knows what quantum mechanics are, then you may be able to understand my post a little better.

accordingly the quantum mechanics, every choice we make is like a roll of a dice. The choice you make is what you "rolled". However, based on quantum mechanics, every other possibility is played out in another dimension. My belief is that we may be reborn and replay all these events with each of the different outcomes.


In my opinion, the universality of Quantum Mechanics is debatable, especially when it comes to matters of life and death. When it comes to life and death, one's soul is involved.

Here is what I consider, for me, to be valid proof that man has a soul, even though many attempt to deny that.
Let us suppose that man does not have a soul. Therefore, all that is man's psychology can be comprehended in terms of Biology. Biology has its roots in Chemistry, and Chemistry in Physics. The basis of Physics are the pure logical means of reason. Therefore, by this line of consequences, all of man's psychology can be understood and comprehended through basic, pure logical reasoning. Of course, this cannot be. Consequently, man has a soul.

When I think about matters of the soul, I leave out all of the physical laws. Quantum mechanics does not not function in the spiritual world.

To understand that, other means are necessary. I rest my case here.

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:37 am 
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I went to a strictly Catholic Highschool, and until I was about 15 I read the Bible regularly etc. I was confirmed at 14, and at the time, it was the proudest moment of my life.

But, as I grew up and followed through academically, I began to see the ignorance and hypocrisy of the Catholic Church. After that I was determined to convert to another denomination, but realized they were all the same thing. I recently was in the process of converting to Buddhism, with the help of my dad, but I realized I was a closet-atheist. So as I came out of that closet I recognized several core beliefs that I have are true, and one of them regards death.

I believe the state of being dead is similar to sleeping, that is: that you don't conciously know you're alive and time doesn't seem to ever pass, because you are unaware of it - a state of infinity. If there is a soul, an inner human quality, it would manifest itself through dreams in this state, but I highly doubt such a thing exists. Because of my beliefs regarding death, I am not afraid of it. Dying tomorrow isn't something that freightens me, as I realize that even when dead I won't be conciously able to grief. However, what does frighten me is the process of dying, the slow painful process that leads of up to infiniteness.

When your Brain has little or about no blood flowing it sends you into a Dream like State its been confirmed by NASA they done it to astronauts
And Death isnt painful Compared to torture or other forms of pain b/c death doesnt last and the time that it does your going into a dream like state thats why many people who go through near death experiences say they saw god and other religious forms its what there brain manifested in a dream
One of my friends almost died he told me he saw this loop, when he wanted to get out it just restarted so then fear of repetition sinked in then he said he was fine with repetition then he woke up at a hospital screaming

he said it was the last thing he remembered and still doesnt know if it was a dream or the process of near death
in the end facts are facts
Life After Death Doesnt exist

If it did we wouldn't reproduce
Life is being alive
Death Is not being alive

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Let us suppose that man does not have a soul. Therefore, all that is man's psychology can be comprehended in terms of Biology. Biology has its roots in Chemistry, and Chemistry in Physics. The basis of Physics are the pure logical means of reason. Therefore, by this line of consequences, all of man's psychology can be understood and comprehended through basic, pure logical reasoning. Of course, this cannot be. Consequently, man has a soul.


Pure Logical Means Of Reasons Has No Existence,Common Knowledge Doesn't exist either
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only soul a Human has is His Genetic Code

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:15 pm 
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Silver0 wrote:
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One of my friends almost died he told me he saw this loop, when he wanted to get out it just restarted so then fear of repetition sinked in then he said he was fine with repetition then he woke up at a hospital screaming

he said it was the last thing he remembered and still doesnt know if it was a dream or the process of near death
in the end facts are facts
Life After Death Doesnt exist
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I've seen this same type of thing and wrote a poem about it.
Grandpa's Youth wrote:
The Futility of Man

I met myself in a dark place
Upon looking around...
And seeing nothing,
I inquired as to what there was to do.

Being surprised by my answer,
"Not much."
I suggested we do it again.


Lots of similar experiences must suggest something, yes?

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 Post subject: Re: After Death- My Theory
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:30 am 
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San wrote:
Lots of thinking, about 3 months went into thinking about this, and i still can't explain it very well, so here I go:

Quantum Mechanics may explain the above better. According to Quantum Mechanics, each choice you make has its outcome. Say you ask for orange juice. In the Quantum Mechanics world, there is only a probability that you would actually acquire orange juice. In another dimension, you play out another possibility and in another dimension another and so on and so forth. Death may be a key to unlocking the other possibilities again without being aware of our previous results.

I am not telling you to accept this, just letting my thoughts out.(Sorry if this confuses you, I did my best)

Thanks,
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-Edit- btw, the final push I got to completely post this was the String Theory. If you do not know what this is, you should look it up, as me explaining it may confuse you as I only understand tidbits of it.

San,

You said, "Quantum Mechanics".
You were probably talking about the relationships between a combination of things like M-theories, Multiverse theories and String theories.
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Edward Witten of the Institute for Advanced Study said, the M in M-theory could stand for master, mathematical, mother, mystery, membrane, magic, or matrix. Witten reluctantly admits the M in M-theory can also stand for murky due to the fact that the level of understanding of the theory is so primitive.¹

Have you seen the movie "K-PAX" with Kevin Spacey? They've got it on hulu movies > K-PAX <
The film does a fair job in describing the theory you advance here. It doesn't say "String Theory" but uses the 'expanding / contracting universe' as the model, but it still does a good job explaining the concept.

Making your decision based on how well it fits into Mathematics is fine, as good as any other way for the layman to judge things IMO, but there is speculation that we'll need a whole new branch of math to even really begin. For instance scientists have questioned the success of M-theory given its current incompleteness, limited predictive power even after so many years of intense research.


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FOOTNOTE: ¹ Woit, Peter (September 30, 2006).
Not Even Wrong: The Failure of String Theory And the Search for Unity in Physical Law. Basic Books, 155.

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