pk2 edit for rogues, a question.

revolg · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 60 **Location:**

I came across a pk2 edit which even if a rogue or wizard goes stealth or invisible you can see them. How do y'all feel about this, if your a rogue or wizard. Seems really unfair. Please discuss this.

Millenium wrote:

Thread cleaned. Jay has been banned for 7 days for admitting to PK2 edits that bring unfair advantage to the game play.

Milly

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:10 am

kick JM's ass?

jarrod · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 708 **Location:**

good for chinese...

Ayoki · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 80 **Location:**

it's not fair.. simple as that.

It removes part of my chars ability, which I need to survive in quite some situations.
Chinese have skills to counter europeans dangerous skills.
Additionally, there are potions which have the same effect.
Pk2 Editing to see invisible/stealth only proves how much of a newbie that person is.

Not good enough to do without?

Although it's never gonna happen, I would like to see those people temporarily banned.
1-2 weeks ~ I would be happy

Phantasma · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 471 **Location:**

Wizards and rogues need invis/stealth, without it, they wont have the first hit (which usually kills one hit). And wizards die one hit, while rogue.. probably like in two or three considering you have desperate/extreme.

It really pisses me off is when i see a chinese just run out and hits the invisble wizard, while that wizard waits for the chinese to come out and not expect the wizard there.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:20 pm

Phantasma wrote:

Wizards and rogues need invis/stealth, without it, they wont have the first hit (which usually kills one hit). And wizards die one hit, while rogue.. probably like in two or three considering you have desperate/extreme.

It really pisses me off is when i see a chinese just run out and hits the invisble wizard, while that wizard waits for the chinese to come out and not expect the wizard there.

You got pills for that..and a skill

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

there is like a million ways to see stealth/invis + dumb people who leave there monkeys on. why cheat when there are tons of legit options.

if ur that peranoid, stand around with an icewall or firewall up. that will soak up there 1st hit.

EastWind · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 201 **Location:**

Doesn't the fire tree has detect? Doesn't the rogue tree has detect? Can't you buy detect at pot-seller? People will never grow up and play legit..

NobleHunter · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:58 pm

The lamest thing i´ve ever seen in sro

Jay wrote:

I enjoy being able to see rogues when there about to try attack me from the back so then i can use my stun skill on them, then just debuff and then use death flower to kill, it's quite good, lol. Personaly I don't think that rogues need the stealth skill to pvp, guild wars i'd understand but they used it like it was their life support, don't tell me that they actualy needed it cause i've seen pvp videos where people don't even go stealth/invis on their char's in pvp they just go out there and kill the person which is great. I would definately say it evens the playing fields now that I can see them.

BTW this pk2 edit is not allowed here, hope you got banned.

MrBow · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:11 pm

revolg wrote:

I came across a pk2 edit which even if a rogue or wizard goes stealth or invisible you can see them. How do y'all feel about this, if your a rogue or wizard. Seems really unfair. Please discuss this.

SRF doesn't tolerate PK2 edit guides as it is (as you mentioned) unfair - i'd call it rather cheating...

impto · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 10 **Location:**

if you are wizzard like me you need invisible to survive...
and ppl using that noob pk2 edit just kill over and over again.. just complet unfair... this days invisible for me just make me move slower...
even in friendly guild wars ppl using it, last one i fighted in, 4 vs 4 2 or 3 of the opposite guild had it!!! :banghead:

if you get one shity char you can always pk edit to get advantage noobs... just get real easy kills that way...
that makes rogues and wizards completely useless...
and i think pk2 editing it's even worse then botting... ppl call themself legit then go pk2 edit... lol, great legits... even botters have better etics...
Cumps

Jay wrote:

I enjoy being able to see rogues when there about to try attack me from the back so then i can use my stun skill on them, then just debuff and then use death flower to kill, it's quite good, lol. Personaly I don't think that rogues need the stealth skill to pvp, guild wars i'd understand but they used it like it was their life support, don't tell me that they actualy needed it cause i've seen pvp videos where people don't even go stealth/invis on their char's in pvp they just go out there and kill the person which is great. I would definately say it evens the playing fields now that I can see them.

ban pls

deep.in · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:21 pm

Fly wrote:

there is like a million ways to see stealth/invis + dumb people who leave there monkeys on. why cheat when there are tons of legit options.

if ur that peranoid, stand around with an icewall or firewall up. that will soak up there 1st hit.

Maybe one day you should share those ways instead of just talking :wink:

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

You get banned from here for using it I think and it's not allowed cause it gives you an advantage over other unaware players.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

deep.in wrote:

Fly wrote:

there is like a million ways to see stealth/invis + dumb people who leave there monkeys on. why cheat when there are tons of legit options.

if ur that peranoid, stand around with an icewall or firewall up. that will soak up there 1st hit.

Maybe one day you should share those ways instead of just talking :wink:

Not millions, but I can name eight.

1] Pills ~ Detect Stealth and Invisible
2] Fire Tree ~ Detect Stealth and Invisible
3] Rogue Tree ~ Detect Stealth
4] Wizard Tree ~ Detect Stealth and Invisible
5] Warrior Tree ~ Detect Stealth
6] Tracing ~ Allows You to PinPoint Rogues and Wizards
7] Shadows ~ Allows you to PinPoint Rogues and Wizards
8] Left Pick Up pets ~ Allows You to PinPoint Rogues and Wizards

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

I know a 9th way ^^ but it's more of how to determine where a stealthed/invis player is located for a split second, after that you have to detect em yourself

No I won't share it's pretty easy figuring it out yourself, maybe :?:

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:03 pm

Corrupt wrote:

I know a 9th way ^^ but it's more of how to determine where a stealthed/invis player is located for a split second, after that you have to detect em yourself

No I won't share it's pretty easy figuring it out yourself, maybe :?:

Why do u have to keep it secret if it's easy and u know someday someone will figure it out then tell everyone?

revolg · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 60 **Location:**

First off, to all of those saying i should get banned, i haven't even used that type of pk2 edit. But i did see someone talking about it in game the other day. So don't blame me for using it. I just asked to discus it and see everyone's opinion.

DragonTalon · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1764 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

deep.in wrote:

Fly wrote:

there is like a million ways to see stealth/invis + dumb people who leave there monkeys on. why cheat when there are tons of legit options.

if ur that peranoid, stand around with an icewall or firewall up. that will soak up there 1st hit.

Maybe one day you should share those ways instead of just talking :wink:

Not millions, but I can name eight.

1] Pills ~ Detect Stealth and Invisible
2] Fire Tree ~ Detect Stealth and Invisible
3] Rogue Tree ~ Detect Stealth
4] Wizard Tree ~ Detect Stealth and Invisible
5] Warrior Tree ~ Detect Stealth
6] Tracing ~ Allows You to PinPoint Rogues and Wizards
7] Shadows ~ Allows you to PinPoint Rogues and Wizards
8] Left Pick Up pets ~ Allows You to PinPoint Rogues and Wizards

Omg #7... Theres no need for pk2 edits if you use this.

nohunta · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:47 am

Corrupt wrote:

I know a 9th way ^^ but it's more of how to determine where a stealthed/invis player is located for a split second, after that you have to detect em yourself

No I won't share it's pretty easy figuring it out yourself, maybe :?:

Then that was a useless post.

impto · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 10 **Location:**

9th should be that at some distances stealth and invisible dont work... visual bug, so you can see for a split second there position...

Grimm-.- · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:09 am

Wizards and rouges really arent meant to tank,
So I find it unfair that people pk2 around the stealth.

Snoopy · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:51 am

Talk about paranoid, That is all I see on this forum. A bunch of people pseudo moderating, saying that people should get banned for reasons like using a Invisible Detect PK2.

More fool Joymax for not making invisible server sided.

borat2 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:09 am

Snoopy wrote:

Talk about paranoid, That is all I see on this forum. A bunch of people pseudo moderating, saying that people should get banned for reasons like using a Invisible Detect PK2.

More fool Joymax for not making invisible server sided.

Whats paranoid about it?

With NVIDIA graphic cards and the use of a software called Riva tuner you can tweak the graphic settings so far that some map elements like boxes, bushes and trees where normally players would be able to hide behind it? shouldnt that be considered as cheating and be punished? (this goes for FPS games)

Same thing goes with this pk2 example tweaking is allowed but tweaking to cheat should not be allowed.

Marikit · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 44 **Location:**

Totally annoying - especially in job!

Stealth is a skill and should be respected as one. Remember that eruos not only have to get through all of the chinese buffs that you put up, but also through the extra euro buffs that lvl 80 chinese feel that they must have. If I am in stealth coming up behind you...its probably to kill you for having double buff and being a noob - if you have the edit to see me - why you need all those buff anyway? Most lvl 80 on my server don't even have the destealth skill up to my lvl to see me - either they don't have the sp for it or they don't think they need it...so buy the dam potion - the time for cheating in this game is over...play fair :banghead:

I also like to stand in stealth out at pvp just to watch and to avoid damamge...nothing worse than when a lvl 2x player comes up to me while i am minding my own business and says "hahaha - i can seeeeeeeee you...taxi plssssss"

EastWind · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 201 **Location:**

Marikit wrote:

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I also like to stand in stealth out at pvp just to watch and to avoid damamge...nothing worse than when a lvl 2x player comes up to me while i am minding my own business and says "hahaha - i can seeeeeeeee you...taxi plssssss"

ROFL

BalkanFanaticS · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

Jay wrote:

I enjoy being able to see rogues when there about to try attack me from the back so then i can use my stun skill on them, then just debuff and then use death flower to kill, it's quite good, lol. Personaly I don't think that rogues need the stealth skill to pvp, guild wars i'd understand but they used it like it was their life support, don't tell me that they actualy needed it cause i've seen pvp videos where people don't even go stealth/invis on their char's in pvp they just go out there and kill the person which is great. I would definately say it evens the playing fields now that I can see them.

lol get banned

Schwarzewhatever · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 65 **Location:** =]

Marikit wrote:

I also like to stand in stealth out at pvp just to watch and to avoid damamge...nothing worse than when a lvl 2x player comes up to me while i am minding my own business and says "hahaha - i can seeeeeeeee you...taxi plssssss"

LOL

Zero_Doom · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 1572 **Location:**

Hmm, I would say that in fairness to all, if 1 kind of pk2 editting is banned, then all should be banned. All anyone is really doing is changing the way things are viewed in the game, and isn't actually any more of a cheat then changing the way a weapon looks. I can understand how someone should be banned for using a program to level them up, or how they might be banned for supporting said activities, but seriously, to change the way files are viewed by your computer should not be a bannable offense.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:12 pm

Zero_Doom wrote:

Hmm, I would say that in fairness to all, if 1 kind of pk2 editting is banned, then all should be banned. All anyone is really doing is changing the way things are viewed in the game, and isn't actually any more of a cheat then changing the way a weapon looks. I can understand how someone should be banned for using a program to level them up, or how they might be banned for supporting said activities, but seriously, to change the way files are viewed by your computer, should not be a bannable offense.

Oh yeah, I only pk2 the way rogues/wizards look in stealth/invisibility so I can get them before they can get me..It's their Farking way to fight because they have lower hp/def omg..Use iron shield/fan storm and/or ice/fire wall if you are so afraid for them.

Pk2ing looks of weapons for fun =/= pk2ing the game to disable someone's skills =/

Zero_Doom · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 1572 **Location:**

[SW]XMoshe wrote:

Zero_Doom wrote:

Hmm, I would say that in fairness to all, if 1 kind of pk2 editting is banned, then all should be banned. All anyone is really doing is changing the way things are viewed in the game, and isn't actually any more of a cheat then changing the way a weapon looks. I can understand how someone should be banned for using a program to level them up, or how they might be banned for supporting said activities, but seriously, to change the way files are viewed by your computer, should not be a bannable offense.

Oh yeah, I only pk2 the way rogues/wizards look in stealth/invisibility so I can get them before they can get me..It's their Farking way to fight because they have lower hp/def omg..Use iron shield/fan storm and/or ice/fire wall if you are so afraid for them.

Pk2ing looks of weapons for fun =/= pk2ing the game to disable someone's skills =/

An edit is an edit, whether it is for fun or not. Botting is fun to botters, and SRF bans indiscriminately. Editing away the invisibility is probably fun for the editor. Fun is just a point of view and if someone is banned for trying to have fun editing the way something is shown on his/her computer, then everyone should be.

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