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 Post subject: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:01 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hgda70OU6E

it,s my char hope u like the pvp vid is bit boring i was in a hury and had no music on the pc :P

better version i will make soon with maybe some new pvps

hope u like it ;)


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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:42 am 
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:14 pm 
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where is the music ??? :banghead:
the rest is nice

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:37 pm 
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where is the music ??? :banghead:
the rest is nice


Do you even read what he said? =/

/Edit: vid was nice, good fights...But you do realize that a mag def increase skill wont work against a pure str warrior ;)

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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:02 pm 
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Very nice build.

What is your STR/INT ratio and what masteries are you planning for 90Cap?


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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:21 pm 
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Hmm, I'm wondering how you managed to get any vital spots to stick to the 2H/Cleric. Holy Word should protect them against such things, shouldn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
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phulshof wrote:
Hmm, I'm wondering how you managed to get any vital spots to stick to the 2H/Cleric. Holy Word should protect them against such things, shouldn't it?



yeah i also realised that and it did help him he had 0 statuses on him only the parry ratio thingy

and i have my str/int on the way i allways can get 100 % mag balance with full blue clothes ;)

and masteries for 90 wil be 90 light 90 heuskal 90 force 30 cold

u will think wdf cold 30 u die in 2 hits then NO WAY

i can tank a full str without snow when he have the debuff on him ;)


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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:18 am 
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lol you will die with 30 cold, thats only like 23% snow shield.

You almost died against the str bow with 40% snow shield on.
The person can use a pill to put the impotent away. It's a bad build.

And god forbid you pvp a warrior/cleric with a crit 13+ sword on, a daredevil crit will kill you even with snow shield at... 23% lol.
Their holy spell will resist the impotent away 100% of the time.

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lol you will die with 30 cold, thats only like 23% snow shield.

You almost died against the str bow with 40% snow shield on.
The person can use a pill to put the impotent away. It's a bad build.

And god forbid you pvp a warrior/cleric with a crit 13+ sword on, a daredevil crit will kill you even with snow shield at... 23% lol.
Their holy spell will resist the impotent away 100% of the time.


Under that same condition, you might as well stop a sword/shield build. Without getting that division on them with chain you can't kill them, and they won't stick due to pilling/holy word either. Things will change anyway with more HP combined with the same HP pot size. This game will be more party based.

Besides: I have yet to see the build to kill a fully farmed, well equipped, 2H/cleric in 1vs1 pvp. 2H deals huge damage with good protection buffs while the cleric side provides the healing, the immunity, and protection buffs including bless.

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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:03 pm 
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fck the 2 h lol who cares it is just 1 fcking build..

1 build can,t pwn all build there is not such a build..

this build can pwn at 90 i,m sure and yeah he can pill away that division but he must be a bug user or have lucky that status is gone..

else i first put a noob status on him and then division he can,t pill it away that fast have to wait 18 sec..

and at 90 force wil pwn even more new nice status so :)


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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:37 pm 
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okay, well 2h/cleric comes pretty close to the ultimate build.
First a bless, then iron/mana skin. Then they only need to tank for about 30 seconds which isnt that hard as a subcleric in light armor. That's about 300 more defense both phys and magical and including healing cycle and healing orbit i really can't see anyone taking it down unless you get a stun before the cleric buffs are placed.

Anyway, with only 30 ice. ~10 phys defense. 23% snow. Getting impotent on the opponent is basically do or die. It's 80% success rate, if the pill does in fact take it away then you have about 20 seconds to tank with almost nothing. You can't base a builds power solely on cape pvp. During jobbing you can only impotent one person. The next person kills you easily. At least an INT with 43%+ snow can tank 2 people with good gears, I can hardly see you tanking the first.
In your video at 0:51 seconds against the bower how much hp did you have? 2k with 40% snow? lol. That single crit would've killed you with only 23% snow.

During war you can decay, weaken, division, impotent 1 person. If you only do it to one, cycling to the next person is a hassle and probably not worth it.

After having a lvl 80 force bow who could actually tank if impotent and snow was gone, I just say leave force skills to warlocks. They can do it on 3+ people thus its much more effective.

btw theres a HUGE difference between 60 and 30 ice, done underestimate it.
If you really want force, go light 90, ice 90, force 90 and don use any weapon skills :roll:

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MrFudge wrote:
okay, well 2h/cleric comes pretty close to the ultimate build.
First a bless, then iron/mana skin. Then they only need to tank for about 30 seconds which isnt that hard as a subcleric in light armor. That's about 300 more defense both phys and magical and including healing cycle and healing orbit i really can't see anyone taking it down unless you get a stun before the cleric buffs are placed.

Anyway, with only 30 ice. ~10 phys defense. 23% snow. Getting impotent on the opponent is basically do or die. It's 80% success rate, if the pill does in fact take it away then you have about 20 seconds to tank with almost nothing. You can't base a builds power solely on cape pvp. During jobbing you can only impotent one person. The next person kills you easily. At least an INT with 43%+ snow can tank 2 people with good gears, I can hardly see you tanking the first.
In your video at 0:51 seconds against the bower how much hp did you have? 2k with 40% snow? lol. That single crit would've killed you with only 23% snow.

During war you can decay, weaken, division, impotent 1 person. If you only do it to one, cycling to the next person is a hassle and probably not worth it.

After having a lvl 80 force bow who could actually tank if impotent and snow was gone, I just say leave force skills to warlocks. They can do it on 3+ people thus its much more effective.

btw theres a HUGE difference between 60 and 30 ice, done underestimate it.
If you really want force, go light 90, ice 90, force 90 and don use any weapon skills :roll:


have alot to say about this

first i don,t know how it is in your server but here it is gang bang and cleric shizzle

never fast 1 on 1 every sec a pvp lol when they gang bang me i will di when have no bless or something but every int dies then..

and the crit on 0:51 was when he didn,t had divisision and yeah maybe it would have kill me when had no division and me only have 23 % snow

but don,t forget when he have the mag and phy decrease and the 1 that does both he would probaly also be 1 crit for me :$

and also don,t forget this movie is with a farking noob +2/3/4 suite not that much blues and a +5 with cirt 7 and mag + 12 %

about the last when i don,t have heuskal lvl 90 then i hit 90 % lower because read the thing what u see when u hold mouse on the heuskal logo @ skill page.

so juppie i can tank but can,t kill that would be awsome :)


and i will see when 90 comes i have trust in this build i think it can pwn not be ultimate but i totaly won,t suck..


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 Post subject: Re: [Video]Hyb int force spear nuker
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:13 am 
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phulshof wrote:
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lol you will die with 30 cold, thats only like 23% snow shield.

You almost died against the str bow with 40% snow shield on.
The person can use a pill to put the impotent away. It's a bad build.

And god forbid you pvp a warrior/cleric with a crit 13+ sword on, a daredevil crit will kill you even with snow shield at... 23% lol.
Their holy spell will resist the impotent away 100% of the time.


Under that same condition, you might as well stop a sword/shield build. Without getting that division on them with chain you can't kill them, and they won't stick due to pilling/holy word either. Things will change anyway with more HP combined with the same HP pot size. This game will be more party based.

Besides: I have yet to see the build to kill a fully farmed, well equipped, 2H/cleric in 1vs1 pvp. 2H deals huge damage with good protection buffs while the cleric side provides the healing, the immunity, and protection buffs including bless.


Uhhh...When I play on my friends char, he is lvl 80 hybrid int (very hybrid..11.7k hp s/s without hp passive)..He nukes the most 80 2handers on Xian for anywhere between 9 and 11 or 12k..That is witout division. He can tank (with snow ofc) and snow is longer than bless and skins combined...So most 2handers end up dead, without even needing division >.>

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yep, the way to beat a 2hander is to run out the skins and bless, then catch him during the 30 seconds of vulnerability. That's really where you separate a good 2hander from a decent one :wink:

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True, there were a few 2handers that realllly knew how to play their build..But the most just spam sprint assault/DD/that kd one and triple swing >.>

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Not ice immune.

Not bad at this cap, though. Questionable at later caps.

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Not ice immune.

Not bad at this cap, though. Questionable at later caps.


i have a fcked up hear +2/3/4 less blues well most of these guys think this char scks but when i have nice +5 set and good spear +7 i realy pwn all..

now i can pwn a guy with +5/6 full blue set and +7 shield and SoH +7 sword pretty easy with shitty gear so..


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