Sun 64+7 VS 85+7

Crni_Vatreni · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 468 **Location:**

Hi.
What would u prefer?

Sun 64+7 Blade* crit 16 ...or... 85+7 Blade crit 9

At lvl90, which weapon would be more efficient at pvp? For ya'll there who didnt fight with crit 16 weapon: if you think a blader cant kill, oh yes it can with crit 16 blade.

Also,

Sun 64+7 Shield br22 ...or... 85+7 shield br18

I got the sickest blade and shield in Babel I think :roll:

and I'm not selling it.

Facts please.

*doesnt have to be blade, could be glaive or blade.

piXie_niXie · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 666 **Location:**

lol 85+7 by far beats sun 64+7

sun is at most a 15 lvl boost on power so this is no match at all. 85+7 will dominated

blackfalcon · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1865 **Location:**

sun 64+7 = 86

85+7= 92

which u think is better? lol

DopeX · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 358 **Location:**

85+7 would be better.

Nantosh · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 12:20 am

Did you see anyone at 80 cap pvping against fellow capped guys with a 7d sun? I doubt it...

Facts -

92>86...
92>86 (again)

Raise the crit and br on the 9d... there, problem solved.

LockStar. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 948 **Location:**

64+7 Sun Blade - Phy. attack power 1008 ~ 1130 (61%)

85+7 Blade - Phy. attack power 1208 ~ 1356 (61%)

Quite a big difference there. If I were you, I'd sell that sun blade and work hard on getting your 85+7 with crit 10-11.

Crni_Vatreni · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 468 **Location:**

I'm telling u. It's not the dmg that kills, it's the crit. We'll see I guess =X

What about the shield? U prefer blocking or reducing dmg? What saves ur life best?

LockStar. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 948 **Location:**

Crni_Vatreni wrote:

I'm telling u. It's not the dmg that kills, it's the crit. We'll see I guess =X

What about the shield? U prefer blocking or reducing dmg? What saves ur life best?

That is why I said, work on getting high crit on your 85 blade. I'd laugh at someone with sun 64 at 90 cap.

The shield.. eh. Think about what shield you can do up with the gold you can possibly get from your sun shield.

blackfalcon · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1865 **Location:**

Crni_Vatreni wrote:

I'm telling u. It's not the dmg that kills, it's the crit. We'll see I guess =X

theres a big difference in how much ur sun will crit at 80 and how much it will crit at 90.

Nantosh · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 12:34 am

I think the kids in denial.
Lets just see =X
^ ^

LaloHao · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1987 **Location:** Mexico

Crni_Vatreni wrote:

I'm telling u. It's not the dmg that kills, it's the crit. We'll see I guess =X

If u have a 85+7 wep with same crit it will hit more with crits ...

uBeR · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 966 **Location:**

Buy the 85+7 shit. The higher strength and defense make up for the less crit and BR. It's nto like crit 9 and BR 18 are bad.

daemon225 · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 1:10 am

go for the lv 85+7

Eden · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 74 **Location:**

Lol the crit...

That's like saying 'I prefer lv 60+7 crit 13 blade instead of 64+7 crit 7 or 8 blade'.

What do you think...

daemon225 · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 1:15 am

id rather have the 85 becuase you can make the crit higher then 64

Cal · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 1:29 am

LockStar. wrote:

64+7 Sun Blade - Phy. attack power 1008 ~ 1130 (61%)

85+7 Blade - Phy. attack power 1208 ~ 1356 (61%)

Quite a big difference there. If I were you, I'd sell that sun blade and work hard on getting your 85+7 with crit 10-11.

And don't forget the reinforce.
64+7 sun Phy. reinforce 157.4% ~ 181.0% (61%)
64+7 sun Mag. reinforce 236.8% ~ 267.0% (61%)

85+7 Phy. reinforce 177.3% ~ 203.8% (61%)
85+7 Mag. reinforce 266.7% ~ 300.6% (61%)

Huge difference.

Redwire · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 115 **Location:** U.S.

MiKe 51-50 · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1284 **Location:**

Crni_Vatreni wrote:

I'm telling u. It's not the dmg that kills, it's the crit. We'll see I guess =X

What about the shield? U prefer blocking or reducing dmg? What saves ur life best?

It will be like using a level 80 weapon vs people.

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

Stick with the 64 sun shield, but switch to a 75+7 weapon. The 22 block rate is worth the loss of a few defence, most def. The best you'll get is probally a 18 block non sun shield, or you can waste 500m+ for a 20 block, and still not come close to 22.

daemon225 · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 6:07 am

Redwire wrote:

+1 now thats a br 22 shield lol

_SomeOne_ · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 735 **Location:**

the best of both worlds lvl 76 +7 sun blade and shield?

IowU · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 159 **Location:**

sun sword 64+7 got worse stats then 80lvl +5 sword
and most important thing is that magical reinforce of 80lvl weapon is ~25% higher then 8dgree sun...

change crt from 9 to ~11 and +7 it...

keep ur 22br shield since u r blader and u dun need that much def especialy when u got skill which decrease defence of a shield...

all that matters for u is br:]

wakoo · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 251 **Location:**

not only the atk but the reinforcements are much higher on a 85 item

Krevidy · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 1:43 pm

wakoo wrote:

not only the atk but the reinforcements are much higher on a 85 item

+1 on that you lubly Wakoo!

brentonsbbe359 · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 1:44 pm

lol.... i think we all get the point now that 85+7 is stronger then 64 sosun +7

shinichitai · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 125 **Location:**

howbout instead of a sun 64+7 you use a sun 76+7.

Crni_Vatreni · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 468 **Location:**

Reading the posts, I thank all for posting. Many clever posts here, but so many retards saying "make ur blade crit 11" or "br on shield 20" :shock:

Yea, imma get an 85 weapon, but stick with the shield, that's the best.

Thanks ya'll.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2008 3:24 pm

I'd also go for a 85+5/7 shield with then 18 block because it has more def and 18 br is high enough to block a descent amount of hits.

gamef · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 2290 **Location:** London

Yeah I don't think sticking with the 64 shield will be much of a problem but you definitely should use the 85 blade instead of the sun.

LockStar. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 948 **Location:**

Crni_Vatreni wrote:

Reading the posts, I thank all for posting. Many clever posts here, but so many retards saying "make ur blade crit 11" or "br on shield 20" :shock:

Yea, imma get an 85 weapon, but stick with the shield, that's the best.

Thanks ya'll.

Thanks for calling me a retard, then. Was just trying to help but meh.

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