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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:31 am |
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MooMooMoo wrote: Yet you call these brave heroes "hippies"? Brave heroes? LMAO, those guys killed a puppy.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:34 am |
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No you didn't say they were doing a mission in a video but you used it as an excuse to back up what they did.
I did not refer to all American soldiers as hippies... i meant the two people in the video. -Should have picked that one up by yourself
---Alright so, Im american... Does this mean i must agree with the war...? Well I don't agree with this war so there. Be ashamed of me.
From this video i dont see these soldiers helping and assisting people who cant fight there own war. I find it hard to believe that people like that would help other people. Sorry If you dont see it the way I do.
@ Noble... lol...Thanks kinds what i was trying to say.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:43 am |
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Grimm-.- wrote: No you didn't say they were doing a mission in a video but you used it as an excuse to back up what they did.
I did not refer to all American soldiers as hippies... i meant the two people in the video. -Should have picked that one up by yourself
---Alright so, Im american... Does this mean i must agree with the war...? Well I don't agree with this war so there. Be ashamed of me.
From this video i dont see these soldiers helping and assisting people who cant fight there own war. I find it hard to believe that people like that would help other people. Sorry If you dont see it the way I do.
@ Noble... lol...Thanks kinds what i was trying to say. I too am an American yet I am against this war as well. Again, did I mention that the 2 soldier and the cameraman was helping and assisting people? AGAIN like I stated before, would you like to have some animal/people causing sound and get attention that can be directed to you while you are trying to get through what your doing un-noticeable? @Noble, Yes I call them brave heroes because they are risking their life for those people over in Iraq and everywhere else. They killed a dog? How do you know if that dog was alive? Like other stated already in this thread, they could of found a dead dog and threw it and added the sounds effects, but I would doubt that. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION Noble. Would you kill or be killed?
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:45 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: MooMooMoo wrote: Yet you call these brave heroes "hippies"? Brave heroes? LMAO, those guys killed a puppy. Yea but it was a fu cking vicious puppy man!
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:47 am |
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MooMooMoo wrote: Grimm-.- wrote: No you didn't say they were doing a mission in a video but you used it as an excuse to back up what they did.
I did not refer to all American soldiers as hippies... i meant the two people in the video. -Should have picked that one up by yourself
---Alright so, Im american... Does this mean i must agree with the war...? Well I don't agree with this war so there. Be ashamed of me.
From this video i dont see these soldiers helping and assisting people who cant fight there own war. I find it hard to believe that people like that would help other people. Sorry If you dont see it the way I do.
@ Noble... lol...Thanks kinds what i was trying to say. I too am an American yet I am against this war as well. Again, did I mention that the 2 soldier and the cameraman was helping and assisting people? AGAIN like I stated before, would you like to have some animal/people causing sound and get attention that can be directed to you while you are trying to get through what your doing un-noticeable? @Noble, Yes I call them brave heroes because they are risking their life for those people over in Iraq and everywhere else. They killed a dog? How do you know if that dog was alive? Like other stated already in this thread, they could of found a dead dog and threw it and added the sounds effects, but I would doubt that. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION Noble. Would you kill or be killed? This is about the two people in the video. Stop changing the subject. My opinion is that it was wrong. Do you agree.?
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:50 am |
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No I don't agree with you Grim. Tell me why is it so bad to eliminate a threat that can get you killed? Also, you didn't answer my question from my post Grim, and you said I gave you an excuse for what they did? No, I didn't, I gave you the reason why they did it with humor.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:53 am |
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Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:57 am |
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Ok, its possible the dog was already dead if thats the case, lol, they got me. It looks real to me, so i think they killed the dog of a pour kid in a very cruel way. Why the hell they filmed it? They thought it was funny? If they had to kill the puppy why just dont shoot him? Sorry i dont find excuses for this behaviour.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:58 am |
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Grimm-.- wrote: Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat. your not reading are you?
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:59 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: Ok, its possible the dog was already dead if thats the case, lol, they got me. It looks real to me, so i think they killed the dog of a pour kid in a very cruel way. Why the hell they filmed it? They thought it was funny? If they had to kill the puppy why just dont shoot him? Sorry i dont find excuses for this behaviour. Because there is no excuse... Apparently in Moo's eyes. The excuse is that it was a threat--(At the time). LOL
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:00 am |
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Reise wrote: I like how people watch this and think it's the worst thing on the planet when there's women and children being raped and killed in Africa, scores of animals being skinned alive in Asia for food, insurgents blowing up innocent people in the Middle East, etc.
Oh no some asshole marine threw a dog down a hill! Please. Find something more shocking to get bent out of shape about. One Farking huge ass +1
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:01 am |
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Grimm-.- wrote: Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat. You know what, go find a soldier that came home from Iraq and show him the video, ask for his opinion, tell him everything I've been saying these past few post, and see if he agree's with me. NO, an imaginary soldier won't do. Yes I think it was "alright" for them to eliminate a threat that could of gotten them killed. @Noble, yes I agree that it was wrong for them to film it and release it on the internet, where many simple minded people would view it and think "oh my god, you killed a dog". Not realizing the true situation that they are facing in Iraq.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:03 am |
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MooMooMoo wrote: Grimm-.- wrote: Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat. You know what, go find a soldier that came home from Iraq and show him the video, ask for his opinion, tell him everything I've been saying these past few post, and see if he agree's with me. NO, an imaginary soldier won't do. Yes I think it was "alright" for them to eliminate a threat that could of gotten them killed. BUT IT WAS NOT A THREAT. It was a damn puppy they probably found in the middle of the rode. And I would take a good gauss they if I showed a soldier this they would think it was horrible. Keep in mind. The only difference between a soldier and a citizen is one is holding a gun. I would gauss most soldiers would not agree.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:09 am |
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Grimm-.- wrote: MooMooMoo wrote: Grimm-.- wrote: Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat. You know what, go find a soldier that came home from Iraq and show him the video, ask for his opinion, tell him everything I've been saying these past few post, and see if he agree's with me. NO, an imaginary soldier won't do. Yes I think it was "alright" for them to eliminate a threat that could of gotten them killed. BUT IT WAS NOT A THREAT. It was a damn puppy they probably found in the middle of the rode. And I would take a good gauss they if I showed a soldier this they would think it was horrible. Keep in mind. The only difference between a soldier and a citizen is one is holding a gun. I would gauss most soldiers would not agree. How do you know that the puppy was not a THREAT? Oh yeah, you go and find a soldier whom was in Iraq and show it to him then, a soldier whom was in Iraq would think this is horrible? Oh please
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:10 am |
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MooMooMoo wrote: Grimm-.- wrote: Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat. You know what, go find a soldier that came home from Iraq and show him the video, ask for his opinion, tell him everything I've been saying these past few post, and see if he agree's with me. NO, an imaginary soldier won't do. Yes I think it was "alright" for them to eliminate a threat that could of gotten them killed. LOL, you should read this: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4384322In a statement the Marine Corps, which declined to name the Marine, called the video is "shocking and deplorable"Marine spokesman Maj. Chris Perrine: "We do not tolerate this type of behavior and will take appropriate action"Get killed because of a puppy? ROFL
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:13 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: MooMooMoo wrote: Grimm-.- wrote: Alright so let me get this strait.
You think it was alright for these guys to kill a puppy even though it was obviosly out of boredom or some other human emotion i have not came across. Because. You see it as a threat. You know what, go find a soldier that came home from Iraq and show him the video, ask for his opinion, tell him everything I've been saying these past few post, and see if he agree's with me. NO, an imaginary soldier won't do. Yes I think it was "alright" for them to eliminate a threat that could of gotten them killed. LOL, you should read this: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4384322In a statement the Marine Corps, which declined to name the Marine, called the video is "shocking and deplorable"Marine spokesman Maj. Chris Perrine: "We do not tolerate this type of behavior and will take appropriate action"Get killed because of a puppy? ROFL Thank you. Maybe he shall see the light.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:19 am |
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Do you think that Maj. Chris Perrine would dis-agree with what they have to say in front of the thousand and possible millions of people world wide?
Grim, your not answering my question from a coupld of post ago.
By the way you two make your post, I can see you don't have love ones going into the war and risking their life. Why is that?
Just goto X-Lax's 2 links and discuss it with them and tell me how wrong the both of you are.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:21 am |
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MooMooMoo wrote: Do you think that Maj. Chris Perrine would dis-agree with what they have to say in front of the thousand and possible millions of people world wide?
Grim, your not answering my question from a coupld of post ago.
By the way you two make your post, I can see you don't have love ones going into the war and risking their life. Why is that? I had a friend who died in iraq. Do not state what you do not know. Now what was your question.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:25 am |
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Grimm-.- wrote: MooMooMoo wrote: Do you think that Maj. Chris Perrine would dis-agree with what they have to say in front of the thousand and possible millions of people world wide?
Grim, your not answering my question from a coupld of post ago.
By the way you two make your post, I can see you don't have love ones going into the war and risking their life. Why is that? I had a friend who died in iraq. Do not state what you do not know. Now what was your question. If you really had a friend who lost his life in Iraq then I'm sorry for his loss. "Do not state what you do not know" is that quote directed to me? My brother in law just came back for good in Feb. 2008 and thats my source. As for my question, Im not going to ask it again, you go find it. I can keep up with this but I decide not to and walk away. Why? This is an endless topic, like two snake biting each others tail.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:27 am |
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MooMooMoo wrote: By the way you two make your post, I can see you don't have love ones going into the war and risking their life. Why is that? O RLY My uncle is in a humanitary mission in Afghanistan, but that doesn´t matter. MooMooMoo wrote: Do you think that Maj. Chris Perrine would dis-agree with what they have to say in front of the thousand and possible millions of people world wide?
LOL, probably because those millions of people find cruel the way the soldiers killed the dog. I dont think thats the reason, thats not the way to kill a puppy. Probably someone´s puppy
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:29 am |
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Do not state what you don't know was a response to you saying i didn't have loved ones fighting for our country.
As for this argument... I must a agree it is going no were since neither of us fail to agree with one another.
So I'll be headin out--
I have better things to do then argue about a soldier throwing a puppy of a cliff. ~_~
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:31 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: MooMooMoo wrote: By the way you two make your post, I can see you don't have love ones going into the war and risking their life. Why is that? O RLY My uncle is in a humanitary mission in Afghanistan, but that doesn´t matter. MooMooMoo wrote: Do you think that Maj. Chris Perrine would dis-agree with what they have to say in front of the thousand and possible millions of people world wide?
LOL, probably because those millions of people find cruel the way the soldiers killed the dog. I dont think thats the reason, thats not the way to kill a puppy. Probably someone´s puppy Would you openly agree and admit something that you did was wrong yet SOMEDAY your life could depend on it?
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:33 am |
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I´ll reply the last comment with a comment from a marine about the video:
I am glad that I never had the bad luck to serve with someone so twisted as to throw a puppy off a cliff. I served with some real winners when I was in the service, but this nut takes the cake. Whether or not he has battle fatigue, or was a cruel and sociopathic idiot drawn to the service for a chance to kill living things, this twit should be disciplined. He should also have his mental disorder treated. Had I been there with the jerk, I would have stopped him. And the pigs who sat back, allowed this to happen, and filmed this crap, need to give their heads a shake until the rattling stops. There are many soldiers who go through the same Hell as this guy, and don't resort to tossing innocent puppies off cliffs. Unless he is completely psychotic, he is aware of his actions, and is capable of choice.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:36 am |
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Maybe it was a spy dog with a nano microphone? =/
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:38 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: I´ll reply the last comment with a comment from a marine about the video:
I am glad that I never had the bad luck to serve with someone so twisted as to throw a puppy off a cliff. I served with some real winners when I was in the service, but this nut takes the cake. Whether or not he has battle fatigue, or was a cruel and sociopathic idiot drawn to the service for a chance to kill living things, this twit should be disciplined. He should also have his mental disorder treated. Had I been there with the jerk, I would have stopped him. And the pigs who sat back, allowed this to happen, and filmed this crap, need to give their heads a shake until the rattling stops. There are many soldiers who go through the same Hell as this guy, and don't resort to tossing innocent puppies off cliffs. Unless he is completely psychotic, he is aware of his actions, and is capable of choice. Source?
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:44 am |
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X-Lax wrote: NobleHunter wrote: I´ll reply the last comment with a comment from a marine about the video:
I am glad that I never had the bad luck to serve with someone so twisted as to throw a puppy off a cliff. I served with some real winners when I was in the service, but this nut takes the cake. Whether or not he has battle fatigue, or was a cruel and sociopathic idiot drawn to the service for a chance to kill living things, this twit should be disciplined. He should also have his mental disorder treated. Had I been there with the jerk, I would have stopped him. And the pigs who sat back, allowed this to happen, and filmed this crap, need to give their heads a shake until the rattling stops. There are many soldiers who go through the same Hell as this guy, and don't resort to tossing innocent puppies off cliffs. Unless he is completely psychotic, he is aware of his actions, and is capable of choice. Source? http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4384322its the first comment.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:49 am |
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When matters such as this arise. I tend to agree with Reise.
The man has a level headed head on his shoulders about these matters.
That still doesn't make the act okay though, there's just more understanding for it.
Humans tend to do crazy shit. But lets not pretend to forget the boundaries about what is right or what is wrong.
People should automatically know the Right from the wrong.
These things tend to happen in life or certain scenario's.
In the end it's all about confrontation with the things we tend to ignore or simply do not ( want) to see. But just because something does not get our attention does not mean it's less off a crime.
This shit is sad, but so are the things Reise mentioned.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:18 pm |
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I have just one thing to say, **** anyone who thinks the actions of one stupid marine, represents the whole country. Just go **** yourself and get over it. Every country has someone that would throw a puppy off a cliff, and don't even try to deny it.
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Post subject: Re: Marine Throws Puppy Off Cliff Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:53 pm |
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Joey's right. IF this is real, the people involved making that video are farked up, but you can't go and say they're all like that, because that's simply not true. X-Lax wrote: im not supporting animal cruelty or anything, and i find that video to be horrible, but you have to cut those guys a lot of slack.
These guys are stuck in 100 degree weather for over a year, they see there freinds get killed, dead bodies, get shot at, don't get to see their family and have to know that at any second they could die.
do you know the suicide rates of soldiers in iraq? With all the respect, that's no reason to do such thing.
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