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 Post subject: 9 Gapping all the way?
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:07 am 
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Do you guys think I should do it? With no item mall stuff other than monkey.


I would get Premium Plus but.... then... I wouldn't want to be committed to play for 5 hours per day and end up not using all of it.

So I was just thinking of doing a 9 lvl gap as a chinese char all the way to probably lvl 60 or so and start 0 gapping at lvl 0. Would it be possible?

I will be questing while 9 gapping also....

I know it will be possible but how long will it take? Or will I lose patience and get bored?

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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id just farm at 5 gap cuz 9 gap ul take a long time to lv

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You'll never make it. Pretty simple =] Especially without a ticket.

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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umm..goodluck? I'd say its easier to just powerfarm your char til u hav all the sp u need like that guy that did 1 mil sp. 9 gapping that far is like way too hard..
Well if you do it, post when u finish :]

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just keep a steady gap of 6


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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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keep 1 gap for each mastery all the way ....

for example ... if i have 2 masteries .... i can do 2-3 gap all the way

YOU WILL BE FARMED for the most part if you stick to that

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Many people have tried to 9 gap till cap challenge. So far, i know no one that has succeeded.


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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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MrTwilliger wrote:
Many people have tried to 9 gap till cap challenge. So far, i know no one that has succeeded.


Sounds like a challenge... :)

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keep 1 gap for each mastery all the way ....

for example ... if i have 2 masteries .... i can do 2-3 gap all the way

YOU WILL BE FARMED for the most part if you stick to that

no you wont...

takes most builds to have 5 gap to be full farmed


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Juicy wrote:
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keep 1 gap for each mastery all the way ....

for example ... if i have 2 masteries .... i can do 2-3 gap all the way

YOU WILL BE FARMED for the most part if you stick to that

no you wont...

takes most builds to have 5 gap to be full farmed


yes you will ...i have done ALL my builds that way ... and ALL my builds are farmed ...

and YOU are more than likely speaking of a 3-4 mastery build which is not how joymax has stated from beta on how to build your character

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well you could go 2-3 gap on 2 masterys only. but why bother. most people have 3-4 masterys for a reason. It's better.

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Why would you want to get 4m SP? It would also get sooo boring. Retarded idea.

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umm..goodluck? I'd say its easier to just powerfarm your char til u hav all the sp u need like that guy that did 1 mil sp. 9 gapping that far is like way too hard..
Well if you do it, post when u finish :]

ya i plan on doing that after i lvl Foudre up enough to get my 80 wiz skills which will probally be about 2-3 months if i stay semi committed, 65 now no ticket gota farm hearts and sp, but after that i'm going to pfarm my chinese force blader. But going 9 gap the whole way is insane i couldn't make it past 32 9 gaping the whole way, i mean it wasn't too bad but after long time at hte same lvl you begin to wanna make progress or spend that sp. I recomend farm or do smaller constant gap, then again i'm not the worlds most patient person

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It will take you years to get to 60 with a 9 gap the entire time. You are better off powerfarming for 3-4 weeks then just leveling the rest of the way.

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well you could go 2-3 gap on 2 masterys only. but why bother. most people have 3-4 masterys for a reason. It's better.

yes it's better until people have to spend time and money delvling extra masteries for things they did not need in the 1st place

planning for the future the smart way > being a sheep and wasting sp

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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power farming 150k will take u roughly 2monthes if you dont know any plvlers...
just make some money some how and make lots of legit friends. legit friends kno other legits that plvl. trust me it works xD

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9 Gapping is madness, just farm SP, much quicker :)

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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uBeR wrote:
Why would you want to get 4m SP? It would also get sooo boring. Retarded idea.

i can barely get 1k SP without spending it on a 4 gap. :P

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Take 3 gap all the way...

0 gap = Worst SP, Best EXP
3 gap = Good SP, Good EXP
5 gap = Pointless! Average SP and EXP
7 gap = Great SP, Bad EXP
9 gap = Best SP, Worst EXP

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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power farming 150k will take u roughly 2monthes if you dont know any plvlers...
just make some money some how and make lots of legit friends. legit friends kno other legits that plvl. trust me it works xD


2 months? i didnt know any plvlers and i got 80k a week

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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So... you guys are saying make a Pure Int Chinese Char with Bow to say perhaps lvl 45? Then Make another account so I can pfarm my chinese char from lvl 1 to lvl 60 with 9 gap? I'm sure that the Chinese Char Pure Int with Bow will be reach lvl 60 by the time I get done pfarming my main char.

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 Post subject: Re: 9 Gapping all the way?
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So... you guys are saying make a Pure Int Chinese Char with Bow to say perhaps lvl 45? Then Make another account so I can pfarm my chinese char from lvl 1 to lvl 60 with 9 gap? I'm sure that the Chinese Char Pure Int with Bow will be reach lvl 60 by the time I get done pfarming my main char.

It took me 2 month of gt to lvl from 52 to 56 under 9 gap.

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you only need to 9 gap for a *relatively* short while to get more than enough sp for a build.

my euro i was pfarming got about 60-70k in just 57-60 at not even 9 gap.

id say, head over to nivlam and look at their gap calculator and skill calculator - find a good place to get all your sp in as few levels as possible so you dont have to move around all the time, especially if you're pfarming, you dont want to have to move your operation every day.

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For Pure Str Archer with 90 Pacheon/Fire/Light

Required SP: 700,871
Mastery level: 270 / 300

Max only skills I need.

3 Gapping all the way from lvl 16 to lvl 90 I will gain....

428,592 SP

But that is of course if I don't do quest. If I do the quest, I will gain less cuz I will gain more XP and lvl up faster thus not gain more SP.

So with quest I will probably loose around 50k SP or so. So 3 Gapping from lvl 16-90 I will gain roughly no more than 378,592 SP.

That's only half of what I need.

I would need to be 6 gapping to meet the amount of SP I need to be fully farmed at lvl 90.
6 Gapping from lvl 16 to 90 will gain me 923,109 SP

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wow... such inside thinking.... sweet jesus pinoy... think outside the box.... 3 gap all the way gives u 400k? ok and u need 700k? so wat do u do? oh oh lets think for a sec.... maybe.... just maybe.... oh ye... buy a skill ticket? duh :P hehe nah but seriously... skill ticket should do it for ya m8 ^^ and at 80 u can open to 4 or 5 gap if u think u want extra like.... tell me how it goes and have fun :)

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lol, gap 9 = such low exp (i got 0.01 per 21 nachals at lvl 72... just an example)
gap 9 leaves no exp at all, so you can gain sp... lvl 1-60 on gap 9 is maddness ^___^

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0 gap to 50, getting only your fighting skills and imbue (or nuke + shout) and maybe grasswalk, nothing else, then from 50-59 lvl up but leave skills at 50 so at 60 you'll have a 9 gap (well 10 but you can fill it later)

no point 9 gapping at low lvls if you arent going farm a lot because 9 gap from like 1-50 is same as 1 9 gap lvl at 60, so just get to 60 faster then 9 gap and delvl a few times, you'll save time and pretty much still get same amount of sp

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theres always the dynamic gap method - on my first character i followed this method till about 55.

simply put, you level up masteries and skills as you gain the sp, getting everything you want, but never letting the mastery go above your skills. level up a mastery once that entire level's skills are filled out the way you want them.

this will dynamically balance your skill gap to where you get the sp you need each level at about the same rate as the exp. it comes out usually to somewhere between 3-6, depending on what skills and what level.

it actually works pretty good for just general leveling up because you dont get nothing of either sp or exp and the game isnt too slow to be playable. i remember when i was in my 40s using this method passing up some of my friends who did the whole farm a bunch, then 0 gap for a while pattern.

one thing i need to point out, pinoy, is that youre thinking too simply. you dont need to play the entire game at a single gap. 16-90 at 6 gap would be hardly different than 50-90 at 6 gap (845969). in fact, if you wanted to just get 700k sp by lvl 90, you'd only need to go 70-90 at 6-gap, and could take 1-70 at 0 gap (i dont think you could do that though). the point is, taking low levels slowly is a waste of time if youre going to take high lvls slowly. you'll get more sp per kill at high levels and will probably spend equal or less time on each kill.

my recommendation:

take the low levels as fast as you can, possibly follow a dynamic gap till at least 60. dont waste time farming sp unless you wanna do almost all of it at that level. trust me, delvling is a pain in the ass you dont want.

high levels you can farm all the sp you need in just a few levels. it takes forever, it always does. for instance, lvl 75-79 at 9 gap gives 624,327 SP. if you take the rest of the game up to 74 at 2 gap, and then 0-gap from 80-90, at the end of the game you'd have 870,302 SP, so 170k surplus.

my point is that you just need to learn certain areas, find some specific farming points on the map that also give you benefits besides sp/exp, such as valuable elements or drops, and just do it there.

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theres always the dynamic gap method - on my first character i followed this method till about 55.

simply put, you level up masteries and skills as you gain the sp, getting everything you want, but never letting the mastery go above your skills. level up a mastery once that entire level's skills are filled out the way you want them.

this will dynamically balance your skill gap to where you get the sp you need each level at about the same rate as the exp. it comes out usually to somewhere between 3-6, depending on what skills and what level.

it actually works pretty good for just general leveling up because you dont get nothing of either sp or exp and the game isnt too slow to be playable. i remember when i was in my 40s using this method passing up some of my friends who did the whole farm a bunch, then 0 gap for a while pattern.

one thing i need to point out, pinoy, is that youre thinking too simply. you dont need to play the entire game at a single gap. 16-90 at 6 gap would be hardly different than 50-90 at 6 gap (845969). in fact, if you wanted to just get 700k sp by lvl 90, you'd only need to go 70-90 at 6-gap, and could take 1-70 at 0 gap (i dont think you could do that though). the point is, taking low levels slowly is a waste of time if youre going to take high lvls slowly. you'll get more sp per kill at high levels and will probably spend equal or less time on each kill.

my recommendation:

take the low levels as fast as you can, possibly follow a dynamic gap till at least 60. dont waste time farming sp unless you wanna do almost all of it at that level. trust me, delvling is a pain in the ass you dont want.

high levels you can farm all the sp you need in just a few levels. it takes forever, it always does. for instance, lvl 75-79 at 9 gap gives 624,327 SP. if you take the rest of the game up to 74 at 2 gap, and then 0-gap from 80-90, at the end of the game you'd have 870,302 SP, so 170k surplus.

my point is that you just need to learn certain areas, find some specific farming points on the map that also give you benefits besides sp/exp, such as valuable elements or drops, and just do it there.


Wow.. thanks for the reply.... your method looks very reliable. I will give it a try :d thanks

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