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nicolasvc2
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Post subject: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:37 pm |
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If you could chose remove seal of sun or let them stay on the servers. i say remove them beacus the are overpowerd only good if u have 1 urself. +full seal of sun set only goldbuyers got.  Edit:poll will be a poll for ever wont end
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:38 pm |
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+1 with fixed grammer.
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:46 pm |
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I'm for do them away, it's a more fair game then. It will come down to your skilzzzz 
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:48 pm |
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kthnxbai wrote: +1 with fixed grammar. +2 with fixed spelling
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:49 pm |
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Well if your going to get rid of Seal of Sun why not get rid of Seal of Moon and Seal of Star while we're at it?
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:51 pm |
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MrFudge wrote: kthnxbai wrote: +1 with fixed grammar. +2 with fixed spelling Checking out a translator first type in dutch then in english if me english is that bad  Tasdik wrote: Well if your going to get rid of Seal of Sun why not get rid of Seal of Moon and Seal of Star while we're at it? good question but seal of moon and seal of star are not overpowerd but seal of sun is
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:52 pm |
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i say do away with sun just b/c i dont have any 
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:54 pm |
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nicolasvc2 wrote: MrFudge wrote: kthnxbai wrote: +1 with fixed grammar. +2 with fixed spelling Checking out a translator first type in dutch then in english if me english is that bad  Tasdik wrote: Well if your going to get rid of Seal of Sun why not get rid of Seal of Moon and Seal of Star while we're at it? good question but seal of moon and seal of star are not overpowerd but seal of sun oh, hey dont worry  i know its kinda gay to use translators  no hard feelings bru.
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:59 pm |
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PointZero wrote: i say do away with sun just b/c i dont have any  yea honestly if someone has ever worn a sun set of any degree and fought a same-degree person that had no suns, you would feel ultra godly and praise the suns. The last thing youd want is for them to go away.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:03 pm |
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Hell, why not get rid of all the +7 weps? Or +5? Or even +3? Let's just remove everything, and let all the ppl use npc gear. That would be fair, wouldn't it?
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:05 pm |
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To some limit the bit of power which +5 +7 +9 weapon get, can be bearable and can still be beaten. But the SOX gear/weapon gives a drastic advantage.. thats just not acceptable in my honest opinion.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:10 pm |
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i love SOM. SOM are really powerful, and hard to beat, even with good gear. they're worth a lot, they look amazing, and they hit really freakin hard.
i hate SOSUN. SOSUN are insanely powerful, impossible to beat, even with SOM. they're worth more than god, they look retarded, and they hit so hard you dont even bother fighting back, because suns are in a power class of their own.
SOM should be the cap of power. SOM's are actually really good - i proved this in another thread. when you fight a SOM you have to put a bunch of effort into the fight, and you often lose, but you sometimes win. SOSUN's are just ridiculous, most people just dont even bother fighting people with SOSUN, and most SOSUN can never find a fight at SG DW, so they just sit around ganking people till they get bored. honestly, i dont see the appeal.
as a side note - the value of non-sun items would go up (yay) and the value of sun items would, well, disappear, and therefore help a broken economy in which the suns are worth 10 times more than normal weapons.
Honestly, i thought the perfect solution would have been to just like, raise the cap to 90 and make suns not drop anymore. Then there wouldnt be d9 suns at all, d8 suns would phase out, and the game would be balanced again.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:28 pm |
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doomas wrote: Hell, why not get rid of all the +7 weps? Or +5? Or even +3? Let's just remove everything, and let all the ppl use npc gear. That would be fair, wouldn't it? If that were the case, the game would be much better, cater to a wider audience, and be praised by most western gaming critiques ~ look at GW. But I guess a real economy, quests, a storyline, and all those other things that make an mmorpg an mmo rpg give GW a leg up (even if it really isn't an mmorpg)
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:59 pm |
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why would anyone say no? SOM are strong enough to be the super weapon but not enough to make someone invincible
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:17 pm |
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i say remove sosuns, but leave sos and som so people can farm
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:58 pm |
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I don't say remove them, but return them to their normal droprate.. Where it's a single sun drop every month.(Or w/e it is). A sun every couple days isn't rate and sos everyday.. sos won't hurt, but still.. Joymax shouldn't mess with the drop rate
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:11 pm |
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nicolasvc2 wrote: what do you mean by that?
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:35 pm |
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No. Reason: It isn't invincible. When fighting a sun player it just requires using a brain more than usual. Instead of just pressing 1 2 3 for pvp. Actually no one should just spam 1 2 3 4 etc... It should be based on what and how your last attack went. If you crit on one attack the next should be led up with a stronger attack. That is the only time to use a finisher, when you know they are weakened. Most of the people in sun make up their lack of skill for the game by getting sun gear and weapon. Its just a weakness you should be aware of. The fact of the matter is that sun is the worst at the lvl it starts at. It just weakens over levels. In 80 cap a sun 64+5 was basically a 72+12. Yes that is a very high + but there is only about a 100 difference between +12 and +7. Just because you won't have it doesn't mean it should be removed. The world does not work like that. In every RPG with some depth to it there are weapons and gear like that. In other games it is usually gained through an insanely long quest. But this game it is a lower probability of getting one to your choosing.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:37 pm |
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remove all the sox if you try to remove sun...
sos cant be considered fair if you dont have it either...
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:16 pm |
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RogueKiller wrote: No. Reason: It isn't invincible. When fighting a sun player it just requires using a brain more than usual. Instead of just pressing 1 2 3 for pvp. Actually no one should just spam 1 2 3 4 etc... It should be based on what and how your last attack went. If you crit on one attack the next should be led up with a stronger attack. That is the only time to use a finisher, when you know they are weakened. Most of the people in sun make up their lack of skill for the game by getting sun gear and weapon. Its just a weakness you should be aware of. The fact of the matter is that sun is the worst at the lvl it starts at. It just weakens over levels. In 80 cap a sun 64+5 was basically a 72+12. Yes that is a very high + but there is only about a 100 difference between +12 and +7. Just because you won't have it doesn't mean it should be removed. The world does not work like that. In every RPG with some depth to it there are weapons and gear like that. In other games it is usually gained through an insanely long quest. But this game it is a lower probability of getting one to your choosing. ha. it doesnt take more brains to beat a sosun. have you ever fought a character with full sosun +5-9 gear? try to beat a full str char when you hit them for 3k. if you crit for 4k you might finish em off! :O
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:25 pm |
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i have seen a rogue/warlock-warrior/warlock-wizard/warlock-cleric beat full full sun bladers
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:30 pm |
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No its a factor in the game and the only reason you would want to get rid of it is because you yourself don have a full sun set.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:41 pm |
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Verfo wrote: i have seen a rogue/warlock-warrior/warlock-wizard/warlock-cleric beat full full sun bladers exactly my point - euro dps chars can only do it. the problem with that argument is that euro dps chars can beat anything, so sun isnt a factor for them. sun is a huge problem for everything else.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:46 pm |
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i would have to say. i like shiny sticks! i think a sosun should be the same stats as a last tear +7-+9 and cannot be +'d. that means the game is pretty much still fair and also i keep shiny!
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Post subject: Re: Let sun stay or do them away Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:06 am |
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MrFudge wrote: PointZero wrote: i say do away with sun just b/c i dont have any  yea honestly if someone has ever worn a sun set of any degree and fought a same-degree person that had no suns, you would feel ultra godly and praise the suns. The last thing youd want is for them to go away. To tell you the truth, I wore a sun set on my Pure INT and it made no difference to me..
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:07 am |
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last time i checked silkroad originated in south korea , southh koreea!
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:39 am |
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yea remove the SOSUN. It would only be good as it is somthing to wish for. But the only way most of us can get one is by finding one which is not likely lol. Buying gold online seems the way people do it and this is not even legit. So am i not right in saying SOSUN attracts gold bots and BOTS in general? there shouldnt be this much of an unfair dissadvantage when someone can pimp there 76 weap to 76+9 and full pimed. to get OWNED buy a non pimped plain SOSUN... remove them 
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:14 am |
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RogueKiller wrote: No. Reason: It isn't invincible. When fighting a sun player it just requires using a brain more than usual. Instead of just pressing 1 2 3 for pvp. Actually no one should just spam 1 2 3 4 etc... It should be based on what and how your last attack went. If you crit on one attack the next should be led up with a stronger attack. That is the only time to use a finisher, when you know they are weakened. Most of the people in sun make up their lack of skill for the game by getting sun gear and weapon. Its just a weakness you should be aware of. The fact of the matter is that sun is the worst at the lvl it starts at. It just weakens over levels. In 80 cap a sun 64+5 was basically a 72+12. Yes that is a very high + but there is only about a 100 difference between +12 and +7. Just because you won't have it doesn't mean it should be removed. The world does not work like that. In every RPG with some depth to it there are weapons and gear like that. In other games it is usually gained through an insanely long quest. But this game it is a lower probability of getting one to your choosing. Load of bullshit lol. This game has some skill, granted. However gear is the predominant factor of a winner by far! Especially chinese v chinese. I think sun on the cap degree (90cap 9D atm) should not be allowed. Because it is simply too powerful against 3rd tier equiptment giving too large an advantage. It just encourages cheating to obtain it.
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Post subject: Re: Remove seal of sun? Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:43 am |
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i like sun, it makes ppl like u
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