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 Post subject: new blade skill ?
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:28 pm 
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about the new buff that trades defense for attack, mind sharing your views on it, is it worth it. i got it myself is lvl 1 and i am full int so i dont see any dmg increase


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:36 pm 
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about the new buff that trades defense for attack, mind sharing your views on it, is it worth it. i got it myself is lvl 1 and i am full int so i dont see any dmg increase


it only increses your physical attack, will not work if u r using nuke. It only increases a little bit unless you upgrade it further. I wouldn't use that if i am pure int.

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raysisfenix wrote:
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about the new buff that trades defense for attack, mind sharing your views on it, is it worth it. i got it myself is lvl 1 and i am full int so i dont see any dmg increase


it only increses your physical attack, will not work if u r using nuke. It only increases a little bit unless you upgrade it further. I wouldn't use that if i am pure int.


i am aware it wont increase my nukes that is a given since it increae phy attack but maybe once you max it out is good with kd + stab


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:53 pm 
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your damage will still mostly be based with MAGIC damage, as it is the imbue that adds the damage.
to see the physical advantage youd have to attack with out the imbue, then without the imbue with the skill.
as an int its would be suicide vs a str build, as youll need your phy defence since youll have lower HP.

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:41 pm 
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120 seconds with a 180 second cool down. (i think)

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
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same cool down as snow shield i think

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:20 pm 
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it basically means....

1.full int s/s uses snow shield against blader in pvp.
2.blader triggers snowshield for tankage against the int, spams knock down.
3.int s/s has trouble killing, when status gets put on the blader the blader just uses a pill, especially against division. He can tank bleed out, impotent doesnt matter he can't kill the int in snow anyway.
4. both snow shields run out at the same time.
5. blader triggers banshee buff, kocks down int, cuadruple stabs him. If crit its over.

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i still believe they should make it so snow shield increases in length as you lvl it.
lvl 1 snow should only last like 20 seconds so str chars dont abuse it. snow shield freeze should start at 1min 30 seconds-2min or so and incease all the up to 3 minutes.

i havent played an int char in a while, but whens snows on whats there stopping the str from putting it on himself and take a shield out and just sitting there? sure honorable gameplay is lost but this is silkroad ffs.

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
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this banshee buff sounds interesting, ne str bladers got nething to say about it?

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
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MrFudge wrote:
it basically means....

1.full int s/s uses snow shield against blader in pvp.
2.blader triggers snowshield for tankage against the int, spams knock down.
3.int s/s has trouble killing, when status gets put on the blader the blader just uses a pill, especially against division. He can tank bleed out, impotent doesnt matter he can't kill the int in snow anyway.
4. both snow shields run out at the same time.
5. blader triggers banshee buff, kocks down int, cuadruple stabs him. If crit its over.

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zzzzz.

i still believe they should make it so snow shield increases in length as you lvl it.
lvl 1 snow should only last like 20 seconds so str chars dont abuse it. snow shield freeze should start at 1min 30 seconds-2min or so and incease all the up to 3 minutes.

i havent played an int char in a while, but whens snows on whats there stopping the str from putting it on himself and take a shield out and just sitting there? sure honorable gameplay is lost but this is silkroad ffs.


It's quadruple, not cuadruple.

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
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Tsume wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
it basically means....

1.full int s/s uses snow shield against blader in pvp.
2.blader triggers snowshield for tankage against the int, spams knock down.
3.int s/s has trouble killing, when status gets put on the blader the blader just uses a pill, especially against division. He can tank bleed out, impotent doesnt matter he can't kill the int in snow anyway.
4. both snow shields run out at the same time.
5. blader triggers banshee buff, kocks down int, cuadruple stabs him. If crit its over.

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zzzzz.

i still believe they should make it so snow shield increases in length as you lvl it.
lvl 1 snow should only last like 20 seconds so str chars dont abuse it. snow shield freeze should start at 1min 30 seconds-2min or so and incease all the up to 3 minutes.

i havent played an int char in a while, but whens snows on whats there stopping the str from putting it on himself and take a shield out and just sitting there? sure honorable gameplay is lost but this is silkroad ffs.


It's quadruple, not cuadruple.


Wrong place? this is a silkroad fan forum not an english/spelling forum in case you didn't notice :banghead:

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ugh... int would just use the 15 second def buff against blader :S
then switch to the 15 blocking buff (maybe, not sure it is linked)


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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
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Bah, if a int uses it, he/she's dumb. Turks do it all the time and they die quick.

TBH, I haven't fought any bladers lately so idk how its going to be when they use it. =/ Should just make them easier to kill ;)

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
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MrFudge wrote:
it basically means....

1.full int s/s uses snow shield against blader in pvp.
2.blader triggers snowshield for tankage against the int, spams knock down.
3.int s/s has trouble killing, when status gets put on the blader the blader just uses a pill, especially against division. He can tank bleed out, impotent doesnt matter he can't kill the int in snow anyway.
4. both snow shields run out at the same time.
5. blader triggers banshee buff, kocks down int, cuadruple stabs him. If crit its over.

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zzzzz.

i still believe they should make it so snow shield increases in length as you lvl it.
lvl 1 snow should only last like 20 seconds so str chars dont abuse it. snow shield freeze should start at 1min 30 seconds-2min or so and incease all the up to 3 minutes.

i havent played an int char in a while, but whens snows on whats there stopping the str from putting it on himself and take a shield out and just sitting there? sure honorable gameplay is lost but this is silkroad ffs.


I find it funny how you summarize a situation / a fight ,
you should start your own text-based version of sro,

For info , i m ironic .

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:18 am 
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Use it when you knock someone down. Sure you'll lose the single stab, but it'll be a greater deal. Then take the skill off when he gets back up. That's what I do.

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 Post subject: Re: new blade skill ?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:16 am 
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im a blader, and i got a few things to say about it.

first of all, i've seen two bladers pvp each other (zzz pot fight, rite?). howeva, one of the bladers used the shild skill as max as he could, and the other blader ended up dying. o.O

anotha thing i realized is that you cant go by what the description says. book 4 level 1 says it gives 107 atk power, duno where they are getting that from. At book 3, lvl 3 (max lvl each book is 6), it gave a blader with a 72 shild +3 an attack bonus of 144. It takes and gives your defense and attack depending on the power of the shild you have.

and that percent defense drop, its not an overall drop. i think it just drops the defense of the shild, so lowering your overall defense by maybe 100 or so (cant confirm this yet).

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lol. i love pure int's who use it in CTF, makes them all a 1 hit even when they have snow on >.<
as a pure int, you really should Not use it, or else ill 1 hit you :P

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the damage increase is based off your shield's defense.
it's been tested but its a relatively low amount until it's maxed + you have a cap +7 or sosun shield

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the_wicked wrote:
the damage increase is based off your shield's defense.
it's been tested but its a relatively low amount until it's maxed + you have a cap +7 or sosun shield


Basically a Blader with a pimped +7 or 9 shield with a +5 or 7 Blade is something to avoid and Ints that use this are begging to be OHKOed. Sounds like a decent enough skill.

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i m using Last LvL of 2nd last book in that series.
it says 62% reduce physical defense of shield n 100 physical damage increase.
but instead it only reduces 65 points in physical defense and 200 points increase in physical damage.
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it reduce a percentage of your shield defense,
an overall reduce would make you a oneshoot even for a guy 20 level lower .

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i have the skill maxed to my level on my int hybrid char and im experimenting with using it in certain situations - vs int in garms for instance, but i havent run enough tests to discern whether it actually does anything or not. what i think will happen is it will end up being nearly totally useless for me, but it's worth playing with anyway (if you have the sp anyway...), if even the only result is to figure out how the skill works.

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You're int... The physical damage you gain will be like barely noticeable oO. Also, some people said ints are one-hits with it. :P

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thats why im playing around with it - right now with that skill on i have i think ~2400 max (i forgot min) phys attack power, it's just interesting to see if that does anything. (my char is higher int than str ofc, but i have a lot more str than a lot of hybrids i know, so im gonna try and see if that skill does anything for me :) )

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It's quadruple, not cuadruple.


my bad i dno why i said cuad.
i also meant summit/depth and not banshee, but banshees cooler.

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I just gon banshee skill too lvl 1, 50% shield phy def, 80 phy atc.


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210 ish phy attack boost with
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210 ish phy attack boost with
lvl 76+3 shield NPC
lvl 80 summit depth shield dpd skill

Like I said, it is reflective of the defense of the shield. Im pretty sure a sun blader with a sun +7 blade/shield will be the best chinese PvP'er at this cap(in 1 v 1) Insane defense + you will gain a ton of attack with the skill, and with bleed division and impotent, and 4 stabs bladers are getting scary to PvP. Once 100 comes (if it ever does) Bladers also get stun fear and dull. Pwnage, warlock tanker.

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