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 Post subject: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:46 pm 
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I was wondering,
does there excist some kind of hybrid blader?
Fire, bicheon and cold/light as de skills.

Cuz i was thinking to make a blader, who isnt full str. but somekind of hybrid like 1 int. 2 strength.

good idea? Other ideas? Discuss please, and dont pay attention to my english grammar please! :banghead:
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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:01 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:16 pm 
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A hybrid blader could indeed be good, having more mp to support a higher level of snowshield,
more magical attack and defense, having overall higher damage (criticals excluded) compared to a full strength blader,
and simply being one out of the ordinary.
Ofcourse a full strength blader will outcrit you, since you'll never deal damage like his crits,
but still your overal damage won't be bad,
even though this would propably be the build most looked down upon, why not give it a try?

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:19 pm 
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Idea:
STR hybrid force blader
90 bicheon
90 fire
90 force
30 cold

Build needs the snow shield, not the level 30 lightning mastery. Drugs of typhoon when necessary.
Video proof:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fXIF8F90ylQ

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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a real pure str blader is meant for tanking more than 3 ppl
hybrid blader not really heard of but it is possible and could be done but if u want to hit harder and be a good tanker of few ppl then go hybrid int nuker, like naked 85% mag ballence

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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Skayunor wrote:
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And even more, what this community has forgotten;
try to have fun instead of discussing builds and trying to be the best,
that way you don't enjoy the game, and remember what are games for.


Lolz, thnx anyway for the responses and what you said about fun in the game is absolutely true. (that is correct English right :P)

And, couldn't I make a hybrid blade build, with a sword instead of a blade. How about that?

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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i was planning on 90% phy blader before, still has 20k hp at cap but hits more

the lower crit than pure str isnt something to worry about... bladers just dont crit that hard to begin with compared to other builds

plus if you got 90 sword/90fire/70light/50ice you'll be fine, higher snow shield and still have light for phantom/speed, you loose a bit of phy def from lower ice but well, since you're going hybrid for damage, you'll have to give up some def somewhere

got to around 35 with this build then gave up lvling a blader :S and I didn't like chinese chars really


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:59 am 
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Ive seen the vid, thanx for posting it :D and thougt of a new build.
A blader, with a blade :P, : Bicheon/fire/light/force. So no cold i what way. How about that?

And what will be a good hybrid, 2 str 1 int?
--interesting topic :D-

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:10 pm 
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Rainigul wrote:
Just go pure str yo.

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im pure STR too...
im lvl 43 and i owned and STR sos+3 glavier with full 6 degree garms^^

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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ok ok, but why should i go for pure str. just because you own glaivers? :P

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:26 pm 
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oh and I want a fun build, doesnt have to be the strongest of everyone.
Though it would be cool if I do :P. But for me the fun is the most important (A) :D

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:57 pm 
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Rainigul wrote:
Just go pure str yo.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:12 am 
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In fact, chinese characters were probably MADE to be hybrid from the beginning. Just think about it. Eu-s have 1 kind of attack, so going hybrid there is simply put, weakening yourself. Chinese have 2 kinds of attacks, and for example, going full str almost equals that you don't use your magical attack. Instead, if you go hybrid, you use both of your attacks, so you hit bigger. And with a good set of items, you can back up the little loss of HP, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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joymax made going pure really ez. full str nething can tank and be good, full int is good too, hybrid's tricky business.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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TOloseGT wrote:
joymax made going pure really ez. full str nething can tank and be good, full int is good too, hybrid's tricky business.


Tricky true
Deadly if played correctly: true as well.

And hybrids are far more fun.
Hits harder than a Str and can tank better than an Int.
What's not to like.


Yes the opposite is true as well, but you need to focus on the positive aspects.

For you less gifted, the opposite would be: doesn't hit as hard as a full int and can't tank better than a str.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:36 pm 
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Stress wrote:
Idea:
STR hybrid force blader
90 bicheon
90 fire
90 force
30 cold

Build needs the snow shield, not the level 30 lightning mastery. Drugs of typhoon when necessary.
Video proof:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fXIF8F90ylQ


egh i dont know. im making my pure str force blader and im not pushing light higher than lvl 30 im already dreading the moment that people with fully farmed light start phantoming away from me. typhoons wont even help with somthing likethat. and since bladers have no stun that may be a problem this build might run in to.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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Had a hybrid 91% blader. Damage was good, raped with bleed and division, problem was you still need good crits to kill and the fact is pure str has higher crits. I reccomend pure str.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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Skayunor wrote:
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If your going to correct somebody, at least correct them correctly. I fixed it for you.

OT: Make a pure str blader, 90 bicheon, 90 fire, 60 ice, 60 light.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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Skayunor wrote:
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A hybrid blader could indeed be good, having more mp to support a higher level of snowshield,
more magical attack and defense, having overall higher damage (criticals excluded) compared to a full strength blader,
and simply being one out of the ordinary.
Ofcourse a full strength blader will outcrit you, since you'll never deal damage like his crits,
but still your overal damage won't be bad,
even though this would propably be the build most looked down upon, why not give it a try?

And even more, what this community has forgotten;
try to have fun instead of discussing builds and trying to be the best,
that way you don't enjoy the game, and remember what are games for.

he got some grammar problems beacus netherlands lost in eurocup xP dont blame him lol (atleast he nowed that the wil lose me grammer sucks either :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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the_wicked wrote:
Had a hybrid 91% blader. Damage was good, raped with bleed and division, problem was you still need good crits to kill and the fact is pure str has higher crits. I reccomend pure str.



Why do people keep saying Pure Str crit is higher, so pure str does it higher because Its physical attack is Higher.
Crit for European = Total Physical Damage done * 2
Crit for Chinese = Total Physical Damage done * 2 + Imbue

C=(tP*2)+(I)

In theory; for Chinese at least, the damage should be the same.

Go Hybrid, you gain the ability to tank better and have higher base damage.

85% Physical Balance
90 Fire
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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:29 am 
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in practice, hybrids don't crit as high as pure str.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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Barotix wrote:
85% Physical Balance
90 Fire
90 Bicheon
70 Light
50 Ice


Why?!?!

You wont get much benifit from Ice unless its level 60.

90 Fire
90 Bicheon
60 Light
60 Ice

This will be a MUCH better build.
Though IMO you should still go pure.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:59 am 
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It would be thou.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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Voluptas wrote:
Barotix wrote:
85% Physical Balance
90 Fire
90 Bicheon
70 Light
50 Ice


Why?!?!

You wont get much benifit from Ice unless its level 60.

90 Fire
90 Bicheon
60 Light
60 Ice

This will be a MUCH better build.
Though IMO you should still go pure.

Another good solution:
90 Fire
90 Bicheon
90 Force (yes, force)
30 Lightning/Ice (Lightning just for grass walk, Ice for snow shield... depends on you. With enough experience and a good gear you won't need snow shield)

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:26 pm 
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Voluptas wrote:
Barotix wrote:
85% Physical Balance
90 Fire
90 Bicheon
70 Light
50 Ice


Why?!?!

You wont get much benifit from Ice unless its level 60.

90 Fire
90 Bicheon
60 Light
60 Ice

This will be a MUCH better build.
Though IMO you should still go pure.


Cause everyone does 90/90/60/60 or 90/90/90/30, since Chinese is the race you customize I thought I would give him a Build geared towards offense more than Defense. :) (Hybrids need Fire and Light).

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Blader
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u need to get more dmg.. and get fire for most dmg
speed would be good too

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