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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:31 pm 
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Difference of opinion I suppose.

Personally a large number of capped players, no matter how they did it > low number of legit capped players.

PvP isn't fun at low levels. My opinion. At 3x, a nuker can one-hit another nuker, it's like a wizard vs wizard at a higher level. Whoever gets a first hit.

For me the game is about pvp. Not the grind. The grind, I hate it.

I do however wish that there were more euro parties on my server. I've honestly, never been in an 8/8 euro party. I've had 5/8 at most. That was pretty awesome.. but even after 4-5 hours I had to stop.
Anyway, my /rant of venus, some people like it others don't.


I can tell by your post why you dont like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:59 pm 
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Venus is the shiznit.
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I lvl these in rotation. I couldnt do that in other servers.(Seeing so many f4ggot capped sun botters depresses me:p) But Venus makes me want to grind. I love it here. It's my home:p

P.S Contrary to popular belief, any chinese cant take a euro, jsut gotta know how to use your char.:p

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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I dunno, I personally would rather have a large community of capped players to pvp against than a.. well, basically dead server.

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For me the game is about pvp. Not the grind. The grind, I hate it.

you need to grind to get to cap...

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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Mousetrap wrote:
I dunno, I personally would rather have a large community of capped players to pvp against than a.. well, basically dead server.

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For me the game is about pvp. Not the grind. The grind, I hate it.

you need to grind to get to cap...

no dude... it's just
chill aight!?!?!?!?!
i'm lvl 78 fully farmed

oh shyt wait, i think my hax is stuck, how do i get off my horse again!??

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:08 pm 
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Mousetrap wrote:
Difference of opinion I suppose.

Personally a large number of capped players, no matter how they did it > low number of legit capped players.

PvP isn't fun at low levels. My opinion. At 3x, a nuker can one-hit another nuker, it's like a wizard vs wizard at a higher level. Whoever gets a first hit.

For me the game is about pvp. Not the grind. The grind, I hate it.

I do however wish that there were more euro parties on my server. I've honestly, never been in an 8/8 euro party. I've had 5/8 at most. That was pretty awesome.. but even after 4-5 hours I had to stop.
Anyway, my /rant of venus, some people like it others don't.


LoL, IMO PvP is fun at every level. The one-hit kill is part of the excitement. Venus just lacks the on the field jobbing excitement atm.

Once again: We're a server full of people who love one another. There may be an occasional disagreement but for the most part its chill. Don't come expecting a pre-euro scenario where you have to look over your shoulder when stealing or hunting. If the Alliance knows your alias you can go from point A-Z without much hassle. Yeah, you'll meet the occasional player bot but whats a death that can't be fixed with a little party grinding?

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:56 pm 
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Venus is a mouvement,Join it before its too late :P

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:28 am 
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Fly wrote:
welcome to how silkroad was ment to be played. on a legit server, the players are spread out in a pyrimid.

tons of noobs.
not as meny mid levels.
few high levels.

thats why being legit is importent. those that make it to the top gain a reputation for being there. useing that reputation, they build up guilds, unions, and help the people under them by offing them protection. in return there ends up being tons of drama, always a trade run to rob/protect, meny guild wars, and a huge community to participate in.

...not whos dick is bigger and who can hit a higher crit.


tbh that seems more fun than the whole reputation bullcrap... maybe because reputation in Troy is equivalent to nothing, but the fact that your dick is big (you have a strong char) makes all the difference. Also, I rather own people than mobs... gives a better feeling...

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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RogueKiller wrote:
Something from SRA:
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...I get repremanded and leave the guild because I was making drama between legits...


This line is enough... Reverend lives in his own world, he say good things on stuff he likes and vice versa...
Hes a 21 with brain of a 10.
Yes, wat i said was out of my personal bais pov. Bite me u brain size of a pea~

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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Cerus wrote:
RogueKiller wrote:
Something from SRA:
Reverend wrote:
...I get repremanded and leave the guild because I was making drama between legits...


This line is enough... Reverend lives in his own world, he say good things on stuff he likes and vice versa...
Hes a 21 with brain of a 10.
Yes, wat i said was out of my personal bais pov. Bite me u brain size of a pea~


Heh..
"This line is enough.... Reverend lives in his own world, he says good things on stuff he likes and vice versa...
He's a 21 year old with the mentality of a 10 year old.
Yes, what I said was out of personal biased point of view. Bite me, you whore with a brain the size of a pea~"
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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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Reverend was making up drama and trying to force it down the throats of everyone. He doenst party with BHA, so he doesnt know who they are. He wanted to make trouble just because he got bored of being owned in PVP and leveling alone. He always wanted to argue about Chinese vs. Euros and as the arguments got more pointless, the bored drama got worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:43 am 
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Fly wrote:
welcome to how silkroad was ment to be played. on a legit server, the players are spread out in a pyrimid.

tons of noobs.
not as meny mid levels.
few high levels.

thats why being legit is importent. those that make it to the top gain a reputation for being there. useing that reputation, they build up guilds, unions, and help the people under them by offing them protection. in return there ends up being tons of drama, always a trade run to rob/protect, meny guild wars, and a huge community to participate in.

...not whos dick is bigger and who can hit a higher crit.


tbh that seems more fun than the whole reputation bullcrap... maybe because reputation in Troy is equivalent to nothing, but the fact that your dick is big (you have a strong char) makes all the difference. Also, I rather own people than mobs... gives a better feeling...


legits on venus dont own people? :? :?

That must be why botters dont even register to FW and why botters dont even care to leave town when my behemoth 5* is walking near them in thief suit :>

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:50 am 
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I want to come to Venus, but seeing people in the cool avatar costumes while I can't have them, would just make me cry. :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:06 am 
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There is PVP almost 24/7 at S Gate Samarkand. There arent a lot of high levels botting cause most of them quit cause Albel takes them out by making them murderer. lol


I could use some new methods to get that done; there's several people on Troy doing the same thing (especially when that slow antenoke bug came out), and I'm one of them. Any tips on how to get bots murder?

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:27 am 
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I play on venus cause theres lots of people to talk with and lots of friends to make.. it's a good community, so with or without competition (besides it's competition from people who shouldn't even be there, botters) you can still have fun and enjoy the game with other people.. it's the point of an online game.

On other servers it's crowded... with botters... who aren't even real people.. so it counts as if they weren't really there... so you see venus is more crowded than other servers.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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Even if i had a capped char on Venus i still wouldnt feel special and i want fun, and for me thats easier at lvl cap cuz i dont die then as much when im thiefing or something...

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:33 am 
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Venus brought back the nostalgic feeling from back in the day. A feeling which so many players missed and craved.

They deserve nothing but praise for their hardship and their efforts to force their dreams into reality. I don't play SRO anymore but when i hear things about Venus and the accomplishments of the legits, i cannot help but to admire them and their dedication.

Admirable and praiseworthy. Keep up the good work guys,and girls.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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aww venus sounds fun but i dont wana leave my chars on pacific :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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I dont understand why so many people are always trying to put Venus down? Annoyed that bots arn't winning here or something?


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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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Because we reguarly clear out the ong spots, you can easily PL a group of legits there. lol Venus is different in lots of ways. Its an effort that many legits have helped to continue and you cant appreciate it unless you are a certain kind of person I guess.

We figured out what the botters wanted and took it away.

PVP: We all go to the gates and pwn the bot guilds over and over. Dont even let them properly PVP in any way. As soon as they stand up, someone will push them down again. We are generally in groups and the botters are generally solo chinese so they dont have a chance. They also cant take the fortress or win a guild war against us or BHA.

Fast Leveling: Yeah, we own them there too. We can level faster and better. A legit was the first 90 on Venus. The bots know to stay away from our leveling spots cause they will just loose %. Albel makes a couple high level botters max murderer every night so for a botter going AFK is pretty dangerous. All the legit unions regularly DC the bots as they repot so it interrupts their leveling.

Community: We dont party with them. They arent our friends, we dont help them. We dont assist them in PVP or at boss kills (Which they can only get in the middle of the night). We use a shunning method to let them know they arent welcome in our community. We have a whole forum set up to keep track of who is botting and who isnt so we can make this effective.

If you spend any amount of time on Venus, you would see the effectiveness of our methods. The bots were easy. They all seem to be selfish kids with ADHD so they gave up really fast for the most part. Its been harder keeping the legits true to the original idea because legits all seem to be really nice ppl who want everyone to get a chance to be a good person. It's sweet and all but kinda muddies the water. lol The Confederacy (legit coalition if you wanna call it) helps that a lot.

I wish another server would get its head out of its butt and try it out. There should be more than only one legit server.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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This succeeded in Venus because it was a new server. The other servers have too many botters to reform. 90% of the servers are run by bots. Only 10% (Venus) is legit. This wont be possible on other servers because the bots would just pk you if you tried. They would team up and do the opposite of what you're doing on Venus. Oh well, 1 server is better then none :)

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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You cant claim an opinion to be wrong.
The difference between Venus and other servers are that Venus has low lvl legits that aren't gold bots. More legits, less total real players. Meaning other servers have lots of player bots with some legits making the overall population high while Venus only has legits with few bots. Just depends on how you like to play the game.
If you like pvp, jobbing, guild wars to be only capped players older servers are better for you. If you like people to grind with then Venus...
Every older server has only capped players. Theres no room for anyone else. Meaning you need to be determined or on the server since practically the beginning.

I think you'll be wanting to rephrase that dude. :roll:

Why?
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200 Bots?
700 Real Players you can pvp or interact with.

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1200 Player Bots
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Twice as many players to job against, pvp against etc... Since most arent friendly it makes things interesting 24/7.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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What makes a good server is like anything in life, it's different things to different people. For some it's the destination, being capped with a pimped set. For others, it's the journey, playing the game at your own speed, making friends, pvp, jobbing. Those that want to be capped, are probably not going to like Venus, as the OP said there was nobody at the high level spots. Fly pointed out the reason for this, b/c it's mostly legits that hand grind your not going to have as many high levels, as lazy players are not tolerated on this server. On the flip side I took a tour through the level 10 mobs in Consti the other day, and it was packed with lowbies hand grinding, partying and learning their builds. You want to be part of what has been created on Venus, you have to earn it, you have to work it by hand, but if you do that's where you find the community comes into play because they will help you far more than some stupid taxi. And taxi's don't work anyway as most of us while inbetween parties go drag mobs on the horsehumpers anyway and you just end up dead.

I'll agree that jobbing aspect is very much in favour of the Hunter/Traders. The reason for this is obvious though, most of the theives are botters and haven't the first clue on how to play in a group, so they just get killed by the hunters easily. Even this is being changed, there are people on the server that have created a thief guild of legits. And I think that's great, I don't care if I die while on the job, it's part of the game, it's what makes it fun, so if more legit thieves sign up, this will only improve the fun of the game.

One thing stands out for me when I hear people speak about other servers, they say they have a good group of friends that's why they stay. I can't assume how many friends you have, but I know I can count anyone on any of the legit unions as a friend whether or not I play with them on a regular basis because that's the way of thinking in Venus. It was stated in our vent server just last night that we wouldn't even need this game, we could just hang out in vent with each of us playing any other game and it wouldn't matter because the conversation isn't just about SRO, it's about being friends.......and tiny pickles.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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RogueKiller wrote:
Necrobat wrote:
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You cant claim an opinion to be wrong.
The difference between Venus and other servers are that Venus has low lvl legits that aren't gold bots. More legits, less total real players. Meaning other servers have lots of player bots with some legits making the overall population high while Venus only has legits with few bots. Just depends on how you like to play the game.
If you like pvp, jobbing, guild wars to be only capped players older servers are better for you. If you like people to grind with then Venus...
Every older server has only capped players. Theres no room for anyone else. Meaning you need to be determined or on the server since practically the beginning.

I think you'll be wanting to rephrase that dude. :roll:

Why?
My logic was:
Venus
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200 Bots?
700 Real Players you can pvp or interact with.

Old Servers
100-200 Legits scattered in different union.
1200 Player Bots
1400 Real Players

Twice as many players to job against, pvp against etc... Since most arent friendly it makes things interesting 24/7.

Because a bot isn't a real player as a bot isn't actually playing. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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From the fortress videos I see from Venus it's pretty lame =\. No epic giant battles from what I've seen so far. And that's what sort of motivates you to train harder, to defeat that giant union that controls the fortress or something. When you control something like that so much that only 3 bots come to the fortress war (from what I saw in Guardias video) then theres like no competition.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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From the fortress videos I see from Venus it's pretty lame =\. No epic giant battles from what I've seen so far. And that's what sort of motivates you to train harder, to defeat that giant union that controls the fortress or something. When you control something like that so much that only 3 bots come to the fortress war (from what I saw in Guardias video) then theres like no competition.


True, but what do you get when you take all the people that have been run off their servers due to huge bot/gold bot populations? Venus. Look at whats happening, slowly, more and more true legits are migrating off older servers (xian, troy, babel, greece, etc.) over to venus, it can only get better on that server and soon they will have huge numbers to compete with the other giant servers. And they will completely legit if Avalon/BHA keep up the awesome job they are doing, thus making it 10000% better than any other server.

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And that's what sort of motivates you to train harder, to defeat that giant union that controls the fortress or something.


well.. come and defeat the giant evil union that controls the fortress...

me! :D

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We WANT some legit union to get strong enough to take it.

And trust me, there have been many epic battles for the fortress.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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Join the server... join a legit guild in a legit union... level up to about (oh lets say...) level 50... THEN you have the right to judge our server.

Making a lvl 1 character to walk around rok mountain doesn't count as playing.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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From the fortress videos I see from Venus it's pretty lame =\. No epic giant battles from what I've seen so far. And that's what sort of motivates you to train harder, to defeat that giant union that controls the fortress or something. When you control something like that so much that only 3 bots come to the fortress war (from what I saw in Guardias video) then theres like no competition.

its not the legits fault that botters are tired of being beaten and they are too lazy >.>
other than the bot unions, BHA has tried (or so i have heard) to take the fort :D, but we a small amount of high lvls compared to avalon, so its kinda hard... but we will keep trying ;).

btw nb is right too. Avalon has funded a lot of guilds to lvl up, not only in their union, but in the other legit guilds too.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow at Venus
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well i got shocked to.. i thought venus was a fairly old server.. and when i downloaded isro i saw it was populated and (NEW) infront.. i was like :shock: .. Well i am only lvl 4 and i played maybe 20 minutes then i died and got tired of playing and logged out lol


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