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 Post subject: I solved the ????? crashes!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:44 am 
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Ok, Im messing around with settings and I fixed the crashes.....for me anyways. I always crashed in town ( doesnt matter which) while having a stall open. Normal time for a crash would be about 20 - 30 minuts of selling. I have been testing what I changed for 12 hours now without a crash and in the place I crashed the most.

So what did I do?

I simply dissabled in the BIOS:
1: Video BIOS Cacheable
2: System BIOS Casheable
3: Video Ram Cacheable

Now I did these all at the same time and I have had no problems since, in fact I am selling as I type this. It could have been just one of those that I changed, or all of them. I dont know because I did all three at the same time.

So if this works for all or some, thats great. As for me, I can finaly sell for more than a half hour without a crash.

Oh yeah, and if it works for you and you see me in the Aege server and want to show your gratitude :) please feel free to donate gold or any sos items for my great servces :D :D


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Same with me just too lazy too post hahaaha

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question is how do we get to these bios settings.


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Its like F2, F10, or F12 while your comp is booting up.


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NJ, if it works... so flipping annoying ???? ???? ???? :banghead:


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So anoying is an understatment. It sucked to set up stall for the night, only to have it crash 20 minutes after you leave the room. If this doesnt work for you guys, Im sorry and wish the best. But it works like a charm for me and I am now on hour 16 with no problems at all.

I hope this fix works and gets spread around.


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where did u find Video BIOS Cacheable?

I find
System BIOS Casheable and
Video Ram Cacheable
but can't find that one.


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yea..can u post a detail guide on how to do it?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:59 pm 
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NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bad new everyone. My game crashed last night while selling. This fix seemed to delay the crash for a very long time, but did not cure it forever :banghead:

I need to go back into my BIOS and see where those setting were, and I will repost where they were. Although this isnt a permanent fix, I hope it will delay the crash for others as it did for me. Makes for a bit of a better gaming experience.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:41 pm 
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***First off*****
The BIOS is the heart of your computer. Some changes made in here could render you computer un-bootable, although most do not. If you mess in here and find you cannot boot, you on your own. Google for you computer on Resetting the BIOS. So, not to scare any people who don’t know much about computers, the changes in the BIOS 98% do no harm. If you change it and it doesn’t boot, you can go back in and change it back. Or if you find Windows to be unstable and crash more frequent than normal, you can go and change it back. Only when your messing with things like Over Clocking (if your BIOS supports is) could you actually do Damage and harm the computer****

************ Make changes at Own Risk ****************

Ok for those of you who want to try this here are some directions on where the settings are.

My BIOS is a Phoenix - Award BIOS. If you have a different type then the settings may be in a different location, or not be present at all. You will have to look through each area to find them. Different BIOS's have many of the same settings, but some have settings others do not.

Also, computers such as Compaq, and some HP's and Dell's restrict some aspects of the BIOS so the user has very very very little to change in there. I’m talking like at most being able to change the boot order from HD first to CDRM first etc. Anyways, my point is this: If you have looked all over and cannot find the settings, you may not have them. You may be SOL :( . Sorry.


Ok for my BIOS.
When powering up, I am greeted for a brief time (maybe 3 seconds) of my video card info at the top left of the screen. That goes away and I am prompted with the option to hit "Del" to enter Setup (Some computers may say F10, or F12, or some key.) It’s only up for a very short time on some computers, so restarting a few times while trying to figure out what it said is not un-common. So, while this prompt is up and you know the key to press, press it. If it’s an "F" key, make sure your F-Lock is "on". I have a wireless keyboard, and by default when I boot up, the F-Lock is "off".

Ok, so no you should be in the BIOS. (Again, if you have a different type of BIOS than me, I’m sorry; you’re on your own

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1: Look for a category called "Advanced BIOS features" or something to that effect. It is in there (mine was all the way at the bottom) that you will find the "Video BIOS Cacheable" setting.

Usually you can toggle it with the "enter" key, and sometimes the "+" and "-" keys. There should be some text at the bottom or somewhere that tells you what key to use to change the settings. If you don’t know, and it does not say, you probably have one of those computers that limits what you can change and you don’t have the settings anyways.

After the change has been made, the "Esc" key most often on almost every computer I have worked on, will take you back to the previous screen.

2: Look for a category called "Advanced Chipset features" or something to the effect. In there you should find both of the others, the "System BIOS Cacheable" and "Video Ram Cacheable". (Again, if you do not have these here, they may be under another category or not at all.)

SO anyways, again toggle from enable to disable and press "Esc" to go back to the previous screen. Look for something that says "Exit and Save". Select that and hit enter. (It may by an "F" key too, again, different BIOS's do different things")

And that’s it. The computer should boot up with the changes, and you should have an extended delay :banghead: in the Silk ???? Crash.

After almost 20 hours of nonstop playing and selling without a crash, I was sure this was the real thing. Until I woke up last night to check and it had crashed. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

So I hope this helps those who want to try to change the settings, and I hope it helps the crashing too.


-----Update------------
I checked my Wifes computer who has a Phoenix Bios too, and she has none of the settings in hers. So I guess if you cant find them, this wont help you. Sorry.


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Thx for the guide. I noticed, that the game crashes quite often when pressing automatch in the party window... don't have a solution for that yet.

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Does any1 know a program you can use to get around the limited BIOS options.
My comp is so gay :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :x :x :x :x :banghead: :banghead: :x :x


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Some just don’t have those settings. Even BIOS's that are not limited do not have those options. Guess it depends on the manufacture, and version of the BIOS.

Also, it is not a cure, merely a patch as I still crash but after a dramatically longer time.


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