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 Post subject: Wizards OTT?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:26 am 
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Right, so i always new wizards were powerful, but jesus..
i was watching a vid on youtube, of a wizard killing yarkan, he only had +5 i think, and was hitting yarkan 80k..
that for me is stupidly over powered.

people can argue that they have next to nothing hp, but IMO they attack alot quicker that we can hit that.

share opinions please :)

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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:31 am 
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Twist wrote:
High damage/Low HP


+1

It's the true opposite of bladerz. :P
Euro <--> Chinese
INT-based <--> STR-based
Low HP <--> High HP
High MP <--> Low MP

The only similarity is wearing robes/garment. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:38 am 
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fear and combustion + earth barrier + bless (if cleric sub)

and 100% ice KB + tele

combistion is really a chinese killer skill

and btw i juz did some dmg test wif 90 wiz ystday wif my 90 blader (both not full farmed tho, me 5 gap, wiz +7 staff, me +7 shield

my gears hv imperfect blues, not full hp or str yet and only 26k hp

wif normal buffs (concentration, earth fire protection)
and wiz wif life control using meteor
--> 26 ~ 27.5k dmg, 1 hit

w/o life control, cant 1hit, ard 20 ~21k

wif life control and me on 25% snowshield, ~20k


its almost the same as 80 cap, 90 wiz wif life control can basically 1 hit any 1 (provided no special buffs like bless/skin/screen/snowshield etc.)

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An 80k hit sounds more like a ignore defense hit.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
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i have no opinion only that some1 KNOWS how to use his class to kill the wizards
for me using 2h with bless and mana skin and GO fast to him using sprint attack
and vital increase will be alot enough to kill the wizard
what u say?

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EvilOrder wrote:
i have no opinion only that some1 KNOWS how to use his class to kill the wizards
for me using 2h with bless and mana skin and GO fast to him using sprint attack
and vital increase will be alot enough to kill the wizard
what u say?


I'd say you might kill them, but just gets me how they can easily one hit us back lol.

Also, thanks for the comments guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
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[SW]XMoshe wrote:
An 80k hit sounds more like a ignore defense hit.

haha no then u hit alot more, ma friend did 150k~~ that way

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[SW]XMoshe wrote:
An 80k hit sounds more like a ignore defense hit.


I do about 95k on saytan with life turnover and zerk ;o i dont find 80k on yarkan unusual lol


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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
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chinese nuke - lion shouts
bow- 5 arrow combo
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warrior-sprint/mana skin

these skill are all faster than wizard nuke i think if gone at the same time, idk ones for the other builds

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Lvl 80+ shud use a Demon Cut Blade + his highest book of Lion Shout and a wiz shud be dead, u need to be fast tho, but it works for me too =]

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Wizards might kill 9 lvls above him, but they get killed by 11 lvls below him... if a warrior (2h) gets the luck to know him down on the first hit he's finished.

also Heuksal skill of throwing the spear is a FAST skill, wonderfull to kill wizards, because its faster than their nuke's casting time (if they have life control / life turnover they will most likelly get 1hited)

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jabbers wrote:
chinese nuke - lion shouts
bow- 5 arrow combo
glaive- bloody fan
blade - petal sword
warlock- stun
warrior-sprint/mana skin

these skill are all faster than wizard nuke i think if gone at the same time, idk ones for the other builds


lion shouts won't do enough damage.
Nukes aren't faster.
the rest are 50/50.

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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
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jabbers wrote:
chinese nuke - lion shouts
bow- 5 arrow combo
glaive- bloody fan
blade - petal sword
warlock- stun
warrior-sprint/mana skin

these skill are all faster than wizard nuke i think if gone at the same time, idk ones for the other builds


any logical wiz will do the ice KB skill/fear/combustion/earth barrier 1st b4 meteor

bow is really a euro killer wif 5 hit
blade petal sword wouldnt do enough dmg unless its a crit
warlock has stun + sleep

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CLOT wrote:
jabbers wrote:
chinese nuke - lion shouts
bow- 5 arrow combo
glaive- bloody fan
blade - petal sword
warlock- stun
warrior-sprint/mana skin

these skill are all faster than wizard nuke i think if gone at the same time, idk ones for the other builds


any logical wiz will do the ice KB skill/fear/combustion/earth barrier 1st b4 meteor

bow is really a euro killer wif 5 hit
blade petal sword wouldnt do enough dmg unless its a crit
warlock has stun + sleep


wait theres an ice skill that knocks back also? or do you mean use an ice move like frozen spear and then kb? as for bladers the soul cut series i think is pretty fast. im pretty sure they can launch two before the nuke goes off and that usually means death.


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Krysis wrote:
EvilOrder wrote:
i have no opinion only that some1 KNOWS how to use his class to kill the wizards
for me using 2h with bless and mana skin and GO fast to him using sprint attack
and vital increase will be alot enough to kill the wizard
what u say?


I'd say you might kill them, but just gets me how they can easily one hit us back lol.

Also, thanks for the comments guys.


Wizards don't one hit EVERYONE even with life turn over on. A Rogues dagger DOES NOT one hit everyone also with dagger desperate on and using prick (unless it crits -.-)

another thing is that even lvl. 85+ wizards get kill by yarkan spawns.
I wonder if a wizard can kill lord alone with no tanker...

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Ragnorak wrote:
Krysis wrote:
EvilOrder wrote:
i have no opinion only that some1 KNOWS how to use his class to kill the wizards
for me using 2h with bless and mana skin and GO fast to him using sprint attack
and vital increase will be alot enough to kill the wizard
what u say?


I'd say you might kill them, but just gets me how they can easily one hit us back lol.

Also, thanks for the comments guys.


Wizards don't one hit EVERYONE even with life turn over on. A Rogues dagger DOES NOT one hit everyone also with dagger desperate on and using prick (unless it crits -.-)

another thing is that even lvl. 85+ wizards get kill by yarkan spawns.
I wonder if a wizard can kill lord alone with no tanker...

no they will die from 1 or 2 hits for yarkan

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 Post subject: Re: Wizards OTT?
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dannoob wrote:
CLOT wrote:
jabbers wrote:
chinese nuke - lion shouts
bow- 5 arrow combo
glaive- bloody fan
blade - petal sword
warlock- stun
warrior-sprint/mana skin

these skill are all faster than wizard nuke i think if gone at the same time, idk ones for the other builds


any logical wiz will do the ice KB skill/fear/combustion/earth barrier 1st b4 meteor

bow is really a euro killer wif 5 hit
blade petal sword wouldnt do enough dmg unless its a crit
warlock has stun + sleep


wait theres an ice skill that knocks back also? or do you mean use an ice move like frozen spear and then kb? as for bladers the soul cut series i think is pretty fast. im pretty sure they can launch two before the nuke goes off and that usually means death.


oops, i meant lightning, charged wind

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