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Post subject: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:46 pm |
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are they like the new popular build now they are everywhere on troy most of them wear armor and mostly fullfarmed with their heuskal chains and ice it looks pretty neat and everyone is starting to get ice now O.O on troy u can see ice galives, ice bladers, ice bows and ince nukers whats wit this new trend 
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:51 pm |
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I haven't seen it
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:08 pm |
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Disconn3cted wrote: I haven't seen it << plays on troy, pvp's every day, hardly sees ice users. its coz ppl are downgrading fire to lvl 30 now (pure int's) so less ppl are ice imune. i still think ice sucks though, if i pvp an enemy i hope hes ice lol, no good at all.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:15 pm |
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Ice maxed and no Fire is made to fail in my opinion for any pure str character.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:30 pm |
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It has nothing to do with fire shield.. at Lv30 fire you can still be immune, the reason people are using ice is cuz of the euro's. Though most people are complete morons and think any lvl ice will freeze euros. rofl.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:36 pm |
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gold bot armor+glaive used to build that, with ice, they get even less dmg than before...
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:29 pm |
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>.< that has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard
Str? Armour? lv 30 fire? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww *pukes*
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:30 pm |
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It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light. 
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:33 pm |
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Stress wrote: It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light.  i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them?
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:36 pm |
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Stress wrote: It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light.  I see a lot like that now. I don't see a problem with a glaiver doing that since well.. They don't have for 18% mag dmg increase or nukes. Typhoons are there and can replace the speed, but costly over time.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:44 pm |
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englishganxta wrote: Stress wrote: It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light.  i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them? 60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:46 pm |
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Stress wrote: It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light.  Yeah seen that build a lot more recently. But they still use fire imbue. Others I've seen are: 90 Heuskal 68 Ice (Last ice buff) 52 Light (First Grasswalk) 90 Fire and 60 ice and light Also 90 Heuskal 90 Fire 90 Force 30 Light That Force build is one of the most common builds on Aege atm. Its the reason glaivers are doing 25-30k crits and what not with the new Mars. But fire is a must for pure str. I have never seen a successful pure str without fire.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:04 pm |
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RogueKiller wrote: Stress wrote: It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light.  Yeah seen that build a lot more recently. But they still use fire imbue. Others I've seen are: 90 Heuskal 68 Ice (Last ice buff) 52 Light (First Grasswalk) 90 Fire and 60 ice and light Also 90 Heuskal 90 Fire 90 Force 30 Light That Force build is one of the most common builds on Aege atm. Its the reason glaivers are doing 25-30k crits and what not with the new Mars. But fire is a must for pure str. I have never seen a successful pure str without fire. for the first one 70 ice for the passive boost and 50 light.. u only lose what 2% speed  edit: 90 light or 90 ice would also cost u like 100k more sp -.-
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:22 pm |
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Ice vs. Force then for 90-cap. Fire 90 Force 90 (or is 80 enough, cause 80+ is so damn SP-expensive  ) Weapon 90 or Ice 90 (or 80  ) instead of force.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:29 pm |
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I haven't seen an ice bower or blader since the 60 cap. People used to hate those build if they faced them in PvP.
No auto pot, no immunity leaded to ice as ultimate annoy build, specially bladers. You couldn't kill them, but they couldn't kill you either.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:37 am |
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Useless build... Poor dmg, and the most of high lvl players hav 100% ice immunity.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:28 am |
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bleh, u couldn't kd properly when the other guy was frozen as well.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:33 am |
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Backfire wrote: englishganxta wrote: Stress wrote: It might be the new breed of glaivers. 90 heuksal 90 cold 90 fire 30 light.  i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them? 60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best. 1st of to topic starter, I have not seen that many players with ice at 90, most are light 90. others light 60 ice 60. 2nd. difference b/w light 30 and light 90 is 34 parry and 11% mag atk. and 39% moving speed. there are many players that don't know how important parry is. speed useless lol. its like one of the main reasons why a pure str would get light to 90. mag. atk is just as important as phy. atk. for Chinese str. almost half of the dmg comes from imbue which increase mag atk power. 11% will give a huge boost to the mag. atk of a glavie. Try attacking without imbue (mag atk) and see the difference in dmg. my point is light has much greater benefit then ice. parry,mag. boost, speed. imo 90 light > 90 ice I have fought glaviers with 90 ice and they die just as easy as someone with light 90..why? cuz glaviers with ice 90 get higher def and 90 light glaviers get higher mag. atk.=higher dmg. which kind of balance both.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:29 am |
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After 100-120 Str's wont be able to light anyways, They will NEED fire. At last cap, lol.. Imagine.. only Weap and Fire for pure STRs and Light and weap or light and ice for nukers xD I to would be fun to see those builds :p Alot of less buffs and skills will come into play  rather then just 1-2-3-2-4-5 lol
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:47 am |
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That was popular during 70 cap, and I've heard, very popular during 60 cap... The idea of Ice/Archer was very common though >.< To "freeze the enemy before it gets to you" I suppose
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:30 am |
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Tsume wrote: That was popular during 70 cap, and I've heard, very popular during 60 cap... The idea of Ice/Archer was very common though >.< To "freeze the enemy before it gets to you" I suppose arrow combos + cold + no one having immunity = hell for people. That was kind of the logic.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:53 pm |
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Ragnorak wrote: Backfire wrote: englishganxta wrote:
i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them?
60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best. 1st of to topic starter, I have not seen that many players with ice at 90, most are light 90. others light 60 ice 60. 2nd. difference b/w light 30 and light 90 is 34 parry and 11% mag atk. and 39% moving speed. there are many players that don't know how important parry is. speed useless lol. its like one of the main reasons why a pure str would get light to 90. mag. atk is just as important as phy. atk. for Chinese str. almost half of the dmg comes from imbue which increase mag atk power. 11% will give a huge boost to the mag. atk of a glavie. Try attacking without imbue (mag atk) and see the difference in dmg. my point is light has much greater benefit then ice. parry,mag. boost, speed. imo 90 light > 90 iceI have fought glaviers with 90 ice and they die just as easy as someone with light 90..why? cuz glaviers with ice 90 get higher def and 90 light glaviers get higher mag. atk.=higher dmg. which kind of balance both. So whats your opinion of [60Ice/60Light] vs [90Light] (or 80 Light since the difference of them are just 5 parry and 1% mag.atk.) Which of them are better?
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:32 pm |
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140 cap build: 85% Hybrid Glaiver 120 Heuksal 100 Fire 60 Light 20 Ice
120 cap: 85% Hybrid Glaiver 120 Heuksal 100 Fire 60 Light 20 Ice
100 cap: 85% Hybrid Glaiver 100 Heuksal 100 Fire 60 Light 40 Ice
The whole point of being Chinese is to customize your build. To make your build different from the guy next to you. The pk2 files set up the illusion that Chinese skills end at level 120. the 20% Damage lost from not maxing Heuksal and the 40% Damage lost from not maxing Fire is replaced by bard buffs.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:38 pm |
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Barotix wrote: 140 cap build: 85% Hybrid Glaiver Heuksal 140 Fire 100 Light 60
120 cap: 120 Heuksal 100 Fire 60 Light 20 Ice Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind? You'll get raped.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:39 pm |
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Nitro wrote: Barotix wrote: 140 cap build: 85% Hybrid Glaiver Heuksal 140 Fire 100 Light 60
120 cap: 120 Heuksal 100 Fire 60 Light 20 Ice Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind? You'll get raped. How would you know I would get raped? I can run away if needed (Phantom + Grass walk), and if you see my edit throw snow shield up. I'll also have a higher parry ratio.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:40 pm |
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Barotix wrote: Nitro wrote: Barotix wrote: 140 cap build: 85% Hybrid Glaiver Heuksal 140 Fire 100 Light 60
120 cap: 120 Heuksal 100 Fire 60 Light 20 Ice Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind? You'll get raped. How would you know I would get raped? I can run away if needed (Phantom + Grass walk), and if you see my edit throw snow shield up. I'll also have a higher parry ratio. You wouldnt be able to kill anything... Yeah and I catch you up with Sprint Assault which will be more than 25 meters at lv.140 , and I have speed pots ...
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:43 pm |
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Nitro wrote: Barotix wrote: Nitro wrote: Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind? You'll get raped.
How would you know I would get raped? You wouldnt be able to kill anything We'll see, if the pk2 is right (which I doubt) then leaving my Imbue behind won't hurt me as much as you think. I'll still be able to kill and survive. The damage lost from not maxing my Imbue is replaced with going Hybrid. \o/ The extra Magical Attack makes a difference. I'll also have my Magical buff from light, there are so many factors you're not including. You wearing armor and being pure str will also increase my damage.
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:32 pm |
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I_R_Powerpuff wrote: Ragnorak wrote: Backfire wrote: 60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best. 1st of to topic starter, I have not seen that many players with ice at 90, most are light 90. others light 60 ice 60. 2nd. difference b/w light 30 and light 90 is 34 parry and 11% mag atk. and 39% moving speed. there are many players that don't know how important parry is. speed useless lol. its like one of the main reasons why a pure str would get light to 90. mag. atk is just as important as phy. atk. for Chinese str. almost half of the dmg comes from imbue which increase mag atk power. 11% will give a huge boost to the mag. atk of a glavie. Try attacking without imbue (mag atk) and see the difference in dmg. my point is light has much greater benefit then ice. parry,mag. boost, speed. imo 90 light > 90 iceI have fought glaviers with 90 ice and they die just as easy as someone with light 90..why? cuz glaviers with ice 90 get higher def and 90 light glaviers get higher mag. atk.=higher dmg. which kind of balance both. So whats your opinion of [60Ice/60Light] vs [90Light] (or 80 Light since the difference of them are just 5 parry and 1% mag.atk.) Which of them are better?Does anyone know anything about this?
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:40 pm |
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Barotix wrote: Barotix wrote: Nitro wrote: Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind? You'll get raped.
How would you know I would get raped? You wouldnt be able to kill anything We'll see, if the pk2 is right (which I doubt) then leaving my Imbue behind won't hurt me as much as you think. I'll still be able to kill and survive. The damage lost from not maxing my Imbue is replaced with going Hybrid. \o/ The extra Magical Attack makes a difference. I'll also have my Magical buff from light, there are so many factors you're not including. You wearing armor and being pure str will also increase my damage.[/quote] it doesn't make sense to be hybrid and then leave the magic dmg 40 lvls below you when you are trying to get extra dmg from that imbue...
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Post subject: Re: ICE GLAIVE XD Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:23 pm |
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lol, that's right, the whole reason for going hybrid is to capitalize on the imbue damage along with the physical damage.
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