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 Post subject: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:04 pm 
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i was thinking about a STR DUAL build for 90 cap but i wanna know if there is another one already made to guide myself!! :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:40 pm 
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A Dual build doesn't really work with 90 cap cause if you go with 90 heuskal and Bicheon and then you go with 90 light you can only have 30 lvls of either fire or ice and that'd suck.....alot


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Humm, pure str. 2 weapon trees 90, fire 90, light 30? :)

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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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Personally I think it could work, 90 bicheon / heuksal / fire, and 30 ice for snow.

pvp could go like this..
start with blade skills using the chain for bleed and others.. then KD and use one stab.. once the enemy is getting up, switch to glavie and use GSSC (ghost spear storm cloud) and he should be dead.

No idea if that stab glavie combo would be fast enough though lol


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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You can do it alright
but i don't think any one could afford a couple of 85+5 weapons

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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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Ash wrote:
You can do it alright
but i don't think any one could afford a couple of 85+5 weapons

agreed.
Having one high level wep is much :O but two... <.<
But if you up for sp farming and have lots of golds, GO FOR IT !

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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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if u'r going for dual build, u'll have to make some big sacrifices.

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go euro for dual weapons :S

chinese will hurt if they try


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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hi thx to all for replied!!!

im studing a duall chinese for 90 cap!
until now in my mind i was thinking about more like:

90 heuksal 90 bicheon 90 fire ===> but this one will consume my money on speed pots! :(

90 heuksal 90 bicheon 90 light ===> more of my style !!!

but i wanna ask to the PRO's

does the new BICHEON FORCE SERIES work when u change weapon??
the same for fanning spear?

cause i never tried!!

play good!! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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you cant switch out of blade for new skill i think :S maybe it was shield, but you need one of them


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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the basics for this was the semi tanking ability of str glavier plus the KD+ stabs of blader, the last chinese dual if i am not mistaked was a full int :roll:

so this time with 90 we cannot have a 4th skill tree and as this is a full STR, ice will be at side :D

for a moment i thinked about spliting the elemental tree like 60:60 but it's obvious that the imbue will be weak, and that's a lot of damage!!

i doubt about the 30 light with 90 fire cause light at 30 will be like a turtle!! :) maybe speed pots could help in PVP!!

for the raising process it would be farming cause this is completly insane!, and grinding it would be a pain!

and another question!!
does the new bicheon force series at max do extra damage like the entire fire three at 90???

because whith this we could get 90 light!!! and use the heuk just for good nice damage and stun, as KB and dull 8)
leaving debuffs for blade and nice stylish stuf for blade!!

just a litle thing!! hehe!!
i dont want to let chinese duall die!!!


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:56 pm 
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YES there is a perfectly fine dual weapon str based build for 90cap

90 heuksal/bich/fire and 30 light

Pros:

~Loads of HP
~Hit VERY high crits with glavie when enemy has debuffs from chains and stone smash (ive once done a 20 K crit with soul spear at lvl 82 on a lvl 82)
~FUN
~Both mag and phys defence for 15 seconds, you can also use the heuksal mag defence one with a sheild, so you can do fire wall, heuksal mag defence and then swap to sheild and do your physical defence from bicheon tree. With a nice sheild your pretty much invincible for 15 seconds +
~Your seen as a renegade, someone different, someone to challenge the normal game play
~Makes grinding FUN cause you can practice swapping and different techniques or chains and combos

Cons:

~Costs a very large amount of SP for lvl 90 Fully farmed, around 800K SP ++
~Gold is an issue, with light 30 you WILL be slow with only around 4X% grass walk, also the amount of gold/blood and tears needed for your 85 weapons is painstaking, BUT worth it
~Gain alot of critisism from people who dont think you can do it, but screw them, prove them wrong
~Takes a while to get good at swapping weapons fast enough to be good at pvp, but in the end the more you play this build the better you become at swapping

In the end i get everything out of sro i want from this build; I have fun, I amaze people and i challenge the normal, 'sheep' like way of playing the game.

I have a level 88 on Saturn, also got some videos of the character at pvp and grinding im gonna make a guide hopefully soon
Check my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/blakenator123


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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IMO a dual str build should be 90 fire 90 bich 90 heuk with 30 light. WEAR PROT. with the shield you can still tank nukers through snow if you need to. Also allows you to tank warriors with the shield on. Only a good/lucky warrior will kill you quickly.

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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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yes is a str dual

warrior/rogue...


you didnt said if was chin or euro


and chinese bich heutzal and fire 90 ligth 30...


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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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u should go 90 pach 90 bich 90 fire 30 ice or light
pach for griding
bich for pvp

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90 bicheon, 90 heuksal, 90 fire, 30 ice??

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My guildmate has the build 90 bicheon, heuksal, fire and 30 light.
I think he should change light to ice.. but meh. (he uses 100% drugs in pvp anyway.. so basically all he gets from light is some parry and mag attack)

We pvped 6 times, I won three, he won three.

He started with blade using chains and stone smash until he had bleed on me, then KD'd me and I believe he used all four stabs (two double stabs right?) then switched to his glavie and raped me with GSSC.

He has a sun shield, +5 blade and SoM glavie.

I'm a rogue / cleric and it was nearly impossible to get the bleed status off of me before he used GSSC, he's one of the hardest chinese builds to beat on Oasis imo.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:46 pm 
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str blade force ice is best

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Mousetrap wrote:
My guildmate has the build 90 bicheon, heuksal, fire and 30 light.
I think he should change light to ice.. but meh. (he uses 100% drugs in pvp anyway.. so basically all he gets from light is some parry and mag attack)

We pvped 6 times, I won three, he won three.

He started with blade using chains and stone smash until he had bleed on me, then KD'd me and I believe he used all four stabs (two double stabs right?) then switched to his glavie and raped me with GSSC.

He has a sun shield, +5 blade and SoM glavie.

I'm a rogue / cleric and it was nearly impossible to get the bleed status off of me before he used GSSC, he's one of the hardest chinese builds to beat on Oasis imo.


Sounds like one of my friends back when I still played on Oasis: Chow_Mein was a glaive/blade/light/fire and used light imbue back @ 80cap, was a fairly well-rounded killing machine lol.

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Mousetrap wrote:
My guildmate has the build 90 bicheon, heuksal, fire and 30 light.
I think he should change light to ice.. but meh. (he uses 100% drugs in pvp anyway.. so basically all he gets from light is some parry and mag attack)

We pvped 6 times, I won three, he won three.

He started with blade using chains and stone smash until he had bleed on me, then KD'd me and I believe he used all four stabs (two double stabs right?) then switched to his glavie and raped me with GSSC.

He has a sun shield, +5 blade and SoM glavie.

I'm a rogue / cleric and it was nearly impossible to get the bleed status off of me before he used GSSC, he's one of the hardest chinese builds to beat on Oasis imo.


dude can you please please please bring some videos of your friend in action :)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:19 am 
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Ash wrote:
Mousetrap wrote:
My guildmate has the build 90 bicheon, heuksal, fire and 30 light.
I think he should change light to ice.. but meh. (he uses 100% drugs in pvp anyway.. so basically all he gets from light is some parry and mag attack)

We pvped 6 times, I won three, he won three.

He started with blade using chains and stone smash until he had bleed on me, then KD'd me and I believe he used all four stabs (two double stabs right?) then switched to his glavie and raped me with GSSC.

He has a sun shield, +5 blade and SoM glavie.

I'm a rogue / cleric and it was nearly impossible to get the bleed status off of me before he used GSSC, he's one of the hardest chinese builds to beat on Oasis imo.


dude can you please please please bring some videos of your friend in action :)

o_O :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:41 am 
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blake2 wrote:
YES there is a perfectly fine dual weapon str based build for 90cap

90 heuksal/bich/fire and 30 light

Pros:

~Loads of HP
~Hit VERY high crits with glavie when enemy has debuffs from chains and stone smash (ive once done a 20 K crit with soul spear at lvl 82 on a lvl 82)
~FUN
~Both mag and phys defence for 15 seconds, you can also use the heuksal mag defence one with a sheild, so you can do fire wall, heuksal mag defence and then swap to sheild and do your physical defence from bicheon tree. With a nice sheild your pretty much invincible for 15 seconds +
~Your seen as a renegade, someone different, someone to challenge the normal game play
~Makes grinding FUN cause you can practice swapping and different techniques or chains and combos

Cons:

~Costs a very large amount of SP for lvl 90 Fully farmed, around 800K SP ++
~Gold is an issue, with light 30 you WILL be slow with only around 4X% grass walk, also the amount of gold/blood and tears needed for your 85 weapons is painstaking, BUT worth it
~Gain alot of critisism from people who dont think you can do it, but screw them, prove them wrong
~Takes a while to get good at swapping weapons fast enough to be good at pvp, but in the end the more you play this build the better you become at swapping

In the end i get everything out of sro i want from this build; I have fun, I amaze people and i challenge the normal, 'sheep' like way of playing the game.

I have a level 88 on Saturn, also got some videos of the character at pvp and grinding im gonna make a guide hopefully soon
Check my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/blakenator123


Nice post, good points! Just alil correction.. I believe you meant 20k crit with Ghost spear.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:07 pm 
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go triple build:
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- blade to KD and run away

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NuclearSilo wrote:
go triple build:
- bow far attack
- glaive close attack
- blade to KD and run away

Yeah.. Pure int naturally and wear only 1st degree armor.

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 Post subject: Re: clear my mind!!! =) there is any STR DUAL build for 90 CAP?
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NuclearSilo wrote:
go triple build:
- bow far attack
- glaive close attack
- blade to KD and run away

lol xD one day im going to powerlevel a guy to like 76 and try it out
75pach
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76heuk--windless spear
74fire
this would only be when i get bored and to muck around lol
LockStar. wrote:
Nice post, good points! Just alil correction.. I believe you meant 20k crit with Ghost spear.

thanks and yeah i meant 20K with ghost spear, I always get those two names confused :banghead:


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