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 Post subject: Can someone help me calculate, I am not good with math :(
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Ok I used the nvliam calculator to show that i need 1mil SP to be full farmed at 90.

I am lvl 46 now with 275k SP. My plan is to 9 gap powerfarm/lvl to 64, and then 0 gap to 90. According to the calculator I should have 260k to be full farmed by 64. I already have more than that.

My question is how much SP will I get by 0 gapping from 64 to 90?
Can I 0 gap now to 90? And will 0 gapping to 90 and still make 1 mil SP?
Should I continue to 9 gap to 64 and then 0 gap to 90?
My brain hurts...someone good at math help please.

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Ok I used the nvliam calculator to show that i need 1mil SP to be full farmed at 90.

I am lvl 46 now with 275k SP. My plan is to 9 gap powerfarm/lvl to 64, and then 0 gap to 90. According to the calculator I should have 260k to be full farmed by 64. I already have more than that.

My question is how much SP will I get by 0 gapping from 64 to 90?
Can I 0 gap now to 90? And will 0 gapping to 90 and still make 1 mil SP?
Should I continue to 9 gap to 64 and then 0 gap to 90?
My brain hurts...someone good at math help please.


Current SP = 275k
46 -> 60 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)

Together its 900k SP ... so ... nope ... you wont make it like that ...
P.S. This is 5th grade math.

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http://www.nivlam.com/sp Just enter at what lvl you what gap want and voila..There will be the sp you'll get.

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 Post subject: Re: Can someone help me calculate, I am not good with math :(
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Nitro wrote:
Current SP = 275k
46 -> 60 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)

Together its 900k SP ... so ... nope ... you wont make it like that ...
P.S. This is 5th grade math.


ps this is 5th grade maths?
46 -> 60 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)
wheres 60 -> 64?
also the calculator is not exactly correct if you do 2 seperatly think about it
46-64 (your counting 64)
64-90 (you count 64 twice)

please sir. go back to 5th grade.

im nt sure if those figures are acurate cuz i didnt check them but i wouldnt reli solidly on rev6...

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 Post subject: Re: Can someone help me calculate, I am not good with math :(
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penfold1992 wrote:
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wheres 60 -> 64?


lol ok so at what amount of SP can i stop 9 gapping and 0 gap to 90? thx guys :)

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penfold1992 wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Current SP = 275k
46 -> 60 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)

Together its 900k SP ... so ... nope ... you wont make it like that ...
P.S. This is 5th grade math.


ps this is 5th grade maths?
46 -> 64 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)
wheres 60 -> 64?
also the calculator is not exactly correct if you do 2 seperatly think about it
46-64 (your counting 64)
64-90 (you count 64 twice)

please sir. go back to 5th grade.

im nt sure if those figures are acurate cuz i didnt check them but i wouldnt reli solidly on rev6...


That was a typo ... It should be written 64 there ... this is calculated at Nivlam.
About twice 64 ... no , you are wrong Sir ... Nivlam calculates till the point when you hitted that level...

So 46 (0%exp) --> 64 and (0% exp) / with 9 gap
Then 64 (0% exp) --> 90 (0% exp) / with 0 gap

I need to go back to fifth grade?

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 Post subject: Re: Can someone help me calculate, I am not good with math :(
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Nitro wrote:
penfold1992 wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Current SP = 275k
46 -> 60 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)

Together its 900k SP ... so ... nope ... you wont make it like that ...
P.S. This is 5th grade math.


ps this is 5th grade maths?
46 -> 64 = 448,055 SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)
wheres 60 -> 64?
also the calculator is not exactly correct if you do 2 seperatly think about it
46-64 (your counting 64)
64-90 (you count 64 twice)

please sir. go back to 5th grade.

im nt sure if those figures are acurate cuz i didnt check them but i wouldnt reli solidly on rev6...


That was a typo ... It should be written 64 there ... this is calculated at Nivlam.
About twice 64 ... no , you are wrong Sir ... Nivlam calculates till the point when you hitted that level...

So 46 (0%exp) --> 64 and (0% exp) / with 9 gap
Then 64 (0% exp) --> 90 (0% exp) / with 0 gap

I need to go back to fifth grade?

oh Shit! i think penfold1992 just got OWNED!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Can someone help me calculate, I am not good with math :(
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Nitro wrote:
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Nitro wrote:
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That was a typo ... It should be written 64 there ... this is calculated at Nivlam.
About twice 64 ... no , you are wrong Sir ... Nivlam calculates till the point when you hitted that level...

So 46 (0%exp) --> 64 and (0% exp) / with 9 gap
Then 64 (0% exp) --> 90 (0% exp) / with 0 gap

I need to go back to fifth grade?




Nivlam calculates the full exp for going from the level 0% to 100%. So when you click on only one level (pretending we want to know the sp for 90) you get a certain amount. Going by 'till the point when you hit that level', clicking on only one level would bring up no SP amount.


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 Post subject: Re: Can someone help me calculate, I am not good with math :(
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Actually no , he didnt do wrong ... I did wrong.
About 46 -> 60 ... I actually calculated 46 -> 60 , not 46 --> 64 (why? I clicked 60 without awareness)
(but still you said wrong at double 64)

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Current SP = 275k
46 -> 64 = 580,437 SP SP (9 gap)
64 -> 90 = 177,504 SP (0 gap)

Together its 1032 SP ... so ... yeah ... you will make it like that ...


My apology penfold.



EDIT: @Azilius ... you are wrong. Start - End thing works diffrent way ... If I put END at lv.64 , it will calculate SP till lv.63 and 99.99%

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Actually, you just did it twice. The second time over riding the first time as shown in my screenshots.


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5th grade? cheaters both using calculators try real maths with fingers and toes then u can mabe pass 5th grade 1 day

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so does this chart apply to 9 gap powerfarming up to lvl 64? Which is my intention, then 0 gap to 90

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5th grade? cheaters both using calculators try real maths with fingers and toes then u can mabe pass 5th grade 1 day


Lolz :love:

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so does this chart apply to 9 gap powerfarming up to lvl 64? Which is my intention, then 0 gap to 90


Yeah ... you will be fully farmed then.

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just do the ong farming if you have to farm 1mill sp

if you 9 gap from 46~64 then 0 gap to 90 you will have just over 1mill

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Just to clarify, it calculates from 0% to 99.99%. If you press Lv64, it calculates Lv64 0% to Lv64 99.99%.

So if you wanted to know how much SP you would get from Lv1 0% to Lv50 0%, you would need to calculate from Lv1 to Lv49.

If you wanted to know how much SP you would get from Lv1 0% to Lv50 99.99%, you would need to calculate from Lv1 to Lv50.

If you wanted to know how much SP you would get from Lv70 0% to Lv90 0%, you would need to calculate from Lv70 to Lv89.


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its all just fckn numbers, nerds....... all it ever was just zeros and ones of our sons

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Theres something everyone doesn't take into account: questing. For the majority of quests you dont give sp. Thus get another 50k or so sp if you plan to quest, otherwise you may end up finding yourself getting pretty screwed over.


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What build needs 1 mill sp?

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So if you put lvl 64-90 on nivlam SP calc you actually calcualte SP from
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lvl 64 | 00.00% --- to --- lvl 90 | 00.00%
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Or is it
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lvl 64 | 00.00% --- to --- lvl 90 | 99.99%
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Cheeze wrote:
What build needs 1 mill sp?


a full skilled euro with 2 classes.

*is currently farming 760k sp*

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What build needs 1 mill sp?


STR Blader + Glaive both 90
Light 90
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Ok so I will 9 gap to 64 and 0 gap to 90 thanks! :D

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slimshady wrote:
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STR Blader + Glaive both 90
Light 90
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Ok so I will 9 gap to 64 and 0 gap to 90 thanks! :D


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AFAIK bigger than 9 gap decreases your EXP gained, but doesn't increase the SP amount gained. So stay with a constant 9 gap.



Is this true? I saw it in another post.

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AFAIK bigger than 9 gap decreases your EXP gained, but doesn't increase the SP amount gained. So stay with a constant 9 gap.



Is this true? I saw it in another post.


No, it isnt.

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Nitro wrote:
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AFAIK bigger than 9 gap decreases your EXP gained, but doesn't increase the SP amount gained. So stay with a constant 9 gap.



Is this true? I saw it in another post.


No, it isnt.


It is, i tried it.

Currently my char is lvl 22 dlvled only once and have 120K sp.

Masteries at 0 and no stat points added so it helps me dlvl faster :)


btw, Pure Str Blader (bich light fire) needs 1m sp for lvl 90) PFFT!

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No, it isnt.


It is, i tried it.

Currently my char is lvl 22 dlvled only once and have 120K sp.

Masteries at 0 and no stat points added so it helps me dlvl faster :)


btw, Pure Str Blader (bich light fire) needs 1m sp for lvl 90) PFFT!


Really ... 100% sure?

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http://i37.tinypic.com/24pctj8.png

^there, see HP MP :)
And i have no masteries.

Added 1 str by mishtake XD

And in between somewhere i got like 34 EXP per mob or something, but about more then 500 SP Exp :p

So yeah 100% sure, my friend added masteries to 16, and he already had to dlvl 2 times, but i went from 0 to 27 once, and then dlvled to 19 today, got 120 k SP now :p

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anyone else try this? In the pic it shows you getting lower exp one time than the rest....?

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So if you put lvl 64-90 on nivlam SP calculator you actually calcualte the SP from;
[ALTERNATIVE 1]
lvl 64 | 00.00% --- to --- lvl 90 | 00.00%

Or:

[ALTERNATIVE 2]
lvl 64 | 00.00% --- to --- lvl 90 | 99.99%

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