Arabic/Middle Eastern/Turkish SRO

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

I personally dont like Turks ... in Silkroad.
Because most of them are little arrogant and ignorant kids , who insult you and your family , with who you cant arrange anything , who expect from you to understand them when they PM you on their language.
I'm sorry, people hate them for reason ... why dont we all hate Dutchs? Why dont we all hate Croatians? Why dont we all hate Germans in Silkroad? ...

Turks showed us what they are, and how they act.
No, I wouldnt hate you because you are Turk .. I'd hate you if you spam my chat, if you PM me on your native language which I dont understand, If you insult my family, if you scam, if you cheat ...

This is what 98% of Turks do ... so yeah... I think making Turkish SRO would be good idea

EDIT:I agree what Albel said ... most of them are kids ... I know 21 years old girl from Turkey, who I meet ... and she even said she sometimes hates Turks, how they act in Silkroad.

BloodEngel · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 97 **Location:** Maryland

don't think they should be banned from isro but here are my thoughts on what should be done....

Preaching any religion.... Banned
Insulting religion.....Banned
Insulting other cultures.....Banned
Scamming....Banned
Harassment, like repetitive 10k plz or spamming exchange.....Banned

Oh, and it should be a IP ban.

Deathsythe · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:19 am

Ash wrote:

just to let you guys know i'm not a turk

i just hate racism it makes me angry sometime to see a person judge another human by his nationality or relgion

my server is fed up with racism (server: persia)

here is some things i noticed about my server in the past year :

1-every day there at least 10 to 20 racist globals (AT LEAST)

2-there is a guild called "White power" not kidding & we reported to official forums & as always GM did nothing about it

3-a lot of grant names offend other religions

4-at DH instead of the usual dirty talk "noob build , noob guild ...etc" we have racist talk " i hate your country i hate your race ...etc"

i don't know if that's the case in any other server
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sorry for my bad English

O.o theres also a guild on Sparta called WhitePower. and im the GM of it =P. does that make me a racist? i dont think so.

izmeister · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 1138 **Location:** Yes

Deathsythe wrote:

O.o theres also a guild on Sparta called WhitePower. and im the GM of it =P. does that make me a racist? i dont think so.

Deathsythe wrote:

I agree that it would be nice if Middle Eastern countries could have their own SRO version, just like the Koreans and Viets and Japs, etc. Therefore I am a racist and should be banned. lol

you just said you were... Self-owned

Deathsythe · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:49 am

izmeister wrote:

Deathsythe wrote:

O.o theres also a guild on Sparta called WhitePower. and im the GM of it =P. does that make me a racist? i dont think so.

Deathsythe wrote:

I agree that it would be nice if Middle Eastern countries could have their own SRO version, just like the Koreans and Viets and Japs, etc. Therefore I am a racist and should be banned. lol

you just said you were... Self-owned

Umm no read his post and then my response. I was using his logic that if A=B and B=C, then A must = C. So according to him I am a racist. Think before you post something stupid.

oKim4tsuL · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 105 **Location:**

if hating turk players is racist, then F-you-CK, i'm a proud racist. =D

iShadow · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 48 **Location:**

i don't think its a good idea. i have seen people being arrogant/ stupid/ racist/ noob..etc regardless of country and origin. the comments about religion goes on from supporters of each religion and its not like its fault of one group or race/ religion; they are all involved in it. of course tolerance from person to person varies, but looking at a bigger picture world , and in this case our game world, is much better place when its diverse. if you cant live with them learn to tolerate; i don't think separating them is not an option coz pretty soon you will find another group or country being offensive towards your religion/ belief or just being annoying.

_Scarlett_ · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 1567 **Location:**

Ash wrote:

i just hate racism it makes me angry sometime to see a person judge another human by his nationality or religion

Discriminating someone based off their nationality or religion is NOT racism; it's just discrimination. Racism is discrimination based off a person's race, not of those stated above.

By now people should realize that different groups of people will not always get along, and given precedence based off of human nature and history, it'll probably always be that way. You should just learn to take everything with a grain of salt.

However, back on-topic: I'd have to agree that the majority of Turkish players are arrogant, childish, and basically hold a disregard for other people's cultures, etc. There were very few Turkish players that I've met in-game who were mature and respecting of others. Even then they were all at least 20 years old.

Also, the situation is pretty much the same on any server: People of many backgrounds hate on the Turkish players. You can see the globals in several languages degrading the Turks. When you see that, you have to step back and ask yourself, what the hell are they doing for pretty much every other demographic to be hating on them?

BloodEngel · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 97 **Location:** Maryland

Isn't there supposed to be a ban of some sort for offending a group of people like that? I could have sworn I saw it on the SRO or Joymax homepage once. Not like they enforce anything though.

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

You know why the turks are ignorant? They're kids. If you ever meet an older turkish guy (27+) they're very courteous (usually). 90% of the turks are teenagers. I know some cool turks, all 25-30 ish. All pretty cool.

I agree with you AND people act like Turks are the only "ignorant" ones, HA! I know more people who are from English speaking countries who act more immature than Turks.

antics · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:58 am

lol i remember when a turk started insulting my family how hell f*ck my sister and mom
then i just spammed him saying the same stuff and he told me to stop
lol i personally dont care if i get insulted over the internet but dont do it if u cant take it

BloodEngel · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 97 **Location:** Maryland

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Ash wrote:

i just hate racism it makes me angry sometime to see a person judge another human by his nationality or religion

Discriminating someone based off their nationality or religion is NOT racism; it's just discrimination. Racism is discrimination based off a person's race, not of those stated above.

Actually, we are all genetically part of the human race. The word racism itself is in my opinion a stupid term. There are different ethnic groups but only one human race. It is debatable if the term race can even be used for humans.

JoyFax · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1095 **Location:** PORTUGAL

Ash wrote:

Any one who agreed to the topic idea is a RACIST

i guess when a turk pm you for gold or plvl here's what you think : OMG this guy is pm'ing me he wants gold OMG what should i do i can't get rid of that blue chat OMG OMG he's saying plz now what should i do , yes i should turn into a racist & hate all races & global some bad words about their religion & country

srsly if you guys so annoyed from a game that it turned you to racists then you need to quit the game or go to a shrink

[i don't know what do the mods do to racist members or who encourage racism around here ?]

Yes in every country there are nice people and assholes... but explain to me why is it that only turks got this kind of fame? ...

Inuyasha584 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1491 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

BladeSkillz wrote:

If it is so international how come they ip blocked Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese players?

Chinese and JP because they have their own version and Viet because they were the [i]turks[/i].

Joymax already said they would not IP ban another country.

hey im nice

xAnyeongx · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 172 **Location:** silkroad

First thing you guys need to figure out is how did these other versions of SRO become independent from iSro (except kSro)??

iSRO is NOT going to make this happen, you have no idea how much work they've put into setting up the payment methods for Turkey, Brazil, Latin America, etc.

I've brought this up before in this forum that maybe they need to get some kind of game company in their country to buy the license of silkroad from joymax and host all of it, which imo iSRO admins and what not would be totally against since their profiting a lot from it. This is something that people in the higher up of the iSRO cabal don't want to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if the Turks did get their own version that it's just standard procedure to block their ips like they did with the others so that they can get maximum profit for each of their versions.

I myself would support a north american sro or something, it would be very interesting and i wouldn't have to get lame ping delays like in isro.

Sovereign · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:41 am

Here is the problem as i see it in the majority of the servers.

-80% or so of all silkroad players are Turks. So this leaves them as the highest majorty of players. When there is lots of people there is bound to be problems/arguments which can leave a stain on their reputation.
-The majority of the Turks that do play are Kids/Teenagers and according to my mature turk friends. They like to challenge each over other globals such as: "Yeah well where do you live ill come beat you up etc."
-The reason why the turkish kids/teenagers act like 3 year olds, well im not sure, maybe a lack of proper education or disipline within there real lives.
-Because of the Turks antics and immaturity within the server, it effects alot of other players. That is why we all get affected and start to complain.

In my personal opinion i really do think that the turks should get IP bans from Isro and get their own server, mainly because they are such a large group of players, so its not like their servers would be empty or anything, this would allow them to have there own Turkish community where it would annoy non turkish people, and we can just let them get on with it. So in the end everyone would be happy.

As far as racism towards them goes, well i think that people use the word racist to easily. It's not like we are wishing the deaths of all turks or anything. From a mature point of view. We see the turks as troublemakers and want them out. I don't really think thats being racist.

Whatever, hope at least some of that made sense, im going to bed -_-

Ash · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 585 **Location:** Earth

racist : a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others .

racism : Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

never said hating turks is racism . i said hating ALL turks without knowing every single one of them is racism

every country/race has it's nice & jack assess kind of people .

l337burns · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 48 **Location:**

Ash wrote:

racist : a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others .

racism : Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

never said hating turks is racism . i said hating ALL turks without knowing every single one of them is racism

every country/race has it's nice & jack assess kind of people .

Kudos and well put. Hopefully the clarifications were acceptable enough for the more sensible readers here.

Getting back to the topic...NO there's no topic actually....

Not when there's more pressing issues at hand that renders this 1 as just void and trivial.

Let's lobby the EU and the Middle East blocs to demand localized mini Joymaxs be placed in their respective regions. I'm sure the 2 are pretty "sensitive" to global demands and pressures from the online gamers' segment of world society.

On what grounds?

Abusive behaviors and human nature? "Undisputed" evidences of said players from said nationalities running around rampant violating EVERY SINGLE clause in the EULA and TOS?

On what official statistical figures can we really base these "facts"? Joymax's data?

Then let's lobby the UN too.

See my point?

Personally I can't really ask my ISP and my expert telecommunications/networking friends to confirm all 3: Arabic/Middle Eastern/Turkish SRO players as the primary cause for iSRO's erratic net performance now can I? I have brain cells too.

According to 1 poster here, "80% or so all silkroad players are turks". Whether or not we'll be able to see any official Joymax stance or reliable sources of data to support this is 1 thing altogether, then what's the fuss about asking JM to set up another localized version? It already IS tSRO?

JoshPoshMosh · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 452 **Location:**

90% of the time, when someone who is 25 levels higher than me and constantly kills me, its usually someone from a guild called 'YIGIDOLAR' or 'TURKIYEM' or 'HERO_TR'.
A majority are also horrible in general grinding like when im in an autoshare party, all the turkish players stand still or sit down like its a free powerleveling service which usually leaves 3-6 players actually grinding at all times.
They also make up the majority of people that make a living out of begging . You cant pvp without some autistic low level turk spamming your chatbox with"I NEED LWL UP" or "GOLD PLSSSS" and right clicking the exchange button every millisecond. Even turks that used to be on my friend list ask for free gold and powerleveling.

I think that turks make it harder for most other people to enjoy then game due to their ignorant and extremely annoying behavior, so i voted yes in option 1

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Inuyasha584 wrote:

Barotix wrote:

BladeSkillz wrote:

If it is so international how come they ip blocked Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese players?

Chinese and JP because they have their own version and Viet because they were the [i]turks[/i].

Joymax already said they would not IP ban another country.

hey im nice

Viets were monsters in PvP but they were kicked out before my time.

OnT: I like turks that are over the age of 13. No offense to those near that age bracket but you guys have to realize that the majority of turks are Children. Little kids, one can say that; arrogance, nationalism, and stupidity are their "thing". It's what they're known for. Nothing wrong with arrogance, it makes for interesting gameplay. You can't be hated for loving your country. It's the stupidity. Remove turks and you have effectively banned a large percentage of Isro. In order for turks to have their own version, a company in that region must come to a license agreement with Joymax. Besides, Joymax said they wouldn't IP ban another country or region.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

most turks are under 13?
there are 15 server.
each with say... 3000 regular turk player
15*3000 = 45000

thats just on sro! knight online any1? even more turks!

if turks have 71,158,647 people there

a lot of them must be children (incl the ones that dont play games)

hmmm i dont think they are under 13 some how....

Pham · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 541 **Location:**

Ash wrote:

just to let you guys know i'm not a turk

i just hate racism it makes me angry sometime to see a person judge another human by his nationality or relgion

my server is fed up with racism (server: persia)

here is some things i noticed about my server in the past year :

1-every day there at least 10 to 20 racist globals (AT LEAST)

2-there is a guild called "White power" not kidding & we reported to official forums & as always GM did nothing about it

3-a lot of grant names offend other religions

4-at DH instead of the usual dirty talk "noob build , noob guild ...etc" we have racist talk " i hate your country i hate your race ...etc"

i don't know if that's the case in any other server
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sorry for my bad English

well i dont hate turks cuz they are turks, actually, i never even knew what turks are before playing sro. You know why people hate turks? nope not of their skin or religion, we hate them cuz of how they act. They EARNED their hatred by acting by a bucnh of poor noobs asking begging cursing, and being disrespectful to your family members. Turks are the only race i really hate in sro because of their manners, nuff said. btw i dont hate turks, I ONLY HATE TURKS IN SRO, and my teacher that is a turk cuz he also has no common sense like the one in sro. But turks kid in usa i know some and some of them are REALLY nice and have really good manners. And to the kid who said if sro made u racist ur pathetic or somthing, how would u act if the same race keep talking shit about ur parents and spamming u and shit.

slimshady · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:06 pm

This will be a never ending argument of SRO unless Joymax...

*Creates All Individual Countries their own version of SRO.

This way everyone would speak the same language.

That would be very hard and have tons of versions, so maybe we could settle for versions of SRO for Individual Continents = 7

ddoouugg · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 240 **Location:**

I dont even need to read some of these pointless posts.

Maybe everyone should have an open mind to other religions and races. I know several awesome turkish people in game, and in real life.

-English is not the first language for turkish people, so saying FACK MOTHER or 10k plyz is far easier than them trying to speak turkish, and getting people abusing them for it.

-Its a known fact that a large majority of turkish players are fairly young. Kids do stupid things, kids can be annoying, but kids are kids. Live with it.

-As for the other races and religions people have a problem with... I have never had an issue with an arabian gamer, middle eastern player... If your reason for not liking them is that "they are liek all terrorists yea?" then you can go kill yourself.

-This is a GAME. Dont bring your hates and racist beliefs into the game from your life. Equality between races and religions is applied in society, so why shouldn't it be the same in Silkroad.

This wasn't directed at anyone, but it would be good for everyone to absorb it.

Just my 2 cents.

absolutepower · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 14 **Location:** Usa

I would personally like it if they created a (north american) NASRO. That would be kewl.

Ploxy · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:35 pm

Nitro wrote:

Sovereign wrote:

Yes i think TurkRoad needs to be implemented.

Example:
[GM]Fack: Hello Everyone, the staff team would just to remind you that bot cards,power level and 10k is available in the item mall.
[GM]Fack: Server Restart in 1min

Random Turk 1: NOOOOOOooooOOo ppppllllzzzzz GGGMMM
Random Turk 2: FFAAAACCCKKK GMMmMMM
Random Turk 3: GM GM GM Issssyy plllz noo restart

I think it would be a great idea. Kick em out of Isro and ban the IP's, im tired of all the crap they bring to the servers. All though a few of them are ok, but only a FEW!

I agree with you ... There are good turks ... but only FEW ... I even know one girl ... that is from Turkey and hates turks sometimes ...

+1

slimshady · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:41 pm

absolutepower wrote:

I would personally like it if they created a (north american) NASRO. That would be kewl.

+1 for SRO divided up by continent

chesticles · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 1978 **Location:**

THIS >>>http://www.google.com/trends?q=silkroad+online<<< is why blocking turks from isro is a bad idea and will never happen

[SD]MARKsman7328 · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 353 **Location:**

I think Turkey alone should have tSRO. Just that would take care of many of the botters/hackers/gold sellers.

chesticles wrote:

THIS >>>http://www.google.com/trends?q=silkroad+online<<< is why blocking turks from isro is a bad idea and will never happen

No, ^^^THAT is why blocking Turks from iSRO is the best idea and should happen ASAP.

slimshady · **Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:00 pm

MARKsman7328 wrote:

I think Turkey alone should have tSRO. Just that would take care of many of the botters/hackers/gold sellers.

chesticles wrote:

THIS >>>http://www.google.com/trends?q=silkroad+online<<< is why blocking turks from isro is a bad idea and will never happen

No, ^^^THAT is why blocking Turks from iSRO is the best idea and should happen ASAP.

+1

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