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 Post subject: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:57 am 
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hi could i b a bicheon/fire nuker or only tanker :?:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:07 am 
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If your going pure int. I would not suggest it at all. You will got owned in pvp with no problem. You should also have more than one nuke otherwise in my opinion it's not really a nuker. bicheon/fire alone is going to be a pain once you start leveling.


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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:08 am 
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then ill just go bicheon/fire tanker blade

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:14 am 
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Not being rude but, you seem to have a lot of questions related to Skills etc. You should try posting them in the Skill section or Q&A.

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:15 am 
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:banghead: :banghead: everyone is saying party play bla bla bla china sucks bla bla bla is chinese really that boring coz chinese party play is really fun too. and will i get bored of my blader? should i just stick with ma rogue

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:19 am 
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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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ok sorry :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:31 am 
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If you want to prepare for the future, pick 1 weapon mastery and 1 force. If you want to be like everyone else and waste sp and delvl in the future, go 1 weapon mastery and 2 forces or only 3 forces and no weapon mastery.

Cold depends on the weapon you choose and considering the future skill stones and alchemy updates, you won't really NEED cold in the future. But for now you do.

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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Why so serious, lol. :wink: Every int builds rely on snow shield, unless you got a decent sun set. If you want to have fun, make a force blader with fire,bicheon,force 90 and cold 30 for snow in risky situations.

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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im just sticking with bicheon.fire 8)

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im just sticking with bicheon.fire 8)


Pure str + Biceheon + fire = need to us speed pots = 2 mastery builds FTW! 8)

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:47 am 
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ok will i b able to get into euro partys ( my friend is euro warrior)

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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Ok, Not to flame but why do u have to ask so much on the forums? Why cant u make builds that u wanna have yourself? Maybe there is an invincible build somewhere that noone have tried yet... (could be but doubt it though)
Go try something yourself.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:02 am 
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go [bicheon force ice] i swear, u gonna rock in parties, everybody will want u like crazy..

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3 masterys cost to much sp and im not the farming sort of guy. Ive decided an already made my bicheon/fire tanker and im lvl 10 ill b able to get into partys coz i can tank.... am i right?

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andycooly wrote:
3 masterys cost to much sp and im not the farming sort of guy. Ive decided an already made my bicheon/fire tanker and im lvl 10 ill b able to get into partys coz i can tank.... am i right?

Nope wouldnt expect that. blader = freakishly low dmg so u wont help the pt to get alot exp...

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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oh DAM r bladers really that bad and that useless :banghead: :?:

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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hey toclosetog sorry i think i got ur name wrong but can i join ur guild but im only lvl 10 :P

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:56 am 
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JESUS CHRIST!

STICK YOU ONE MOTHERFARKING BUILD AND PLAY IT!

And yes, Light/Cold/Bich is ownage at cap.

EDIT - Damn KS'ing botter, ;( Back to grinding.

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andycooly wrote:
im just sticking with bicheon.fire 8)


You will suck big time with only 2 masteries 8)

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bicheon/fire it is :P

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im just sticking with bicheon.fire 8)


You will suck big time with only 2 masteries 8)


True, but you know, he'll never get to the level to PVP properly anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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True, but you know, he'll never get to the level to PVP properly anyway.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:06 am 
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cant i just go bichoen/fire :cry:

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andycooly wrote:
cant i just go bichoen/fire :cry:


Go, the game is supposed to by about making your OWN build, but you will suck, you will not be able to PVP, Job and PVE would be harder then someone else with capped mastery level.

No use complaining, be yourself or make a decent build.

I say be yourself just expect to be harder.

EDIT -- Forgot to mention that if you only go 2 you are not making full use you the 300 mastery points JoyMax have given you.

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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Whats this? Yet another planned character? I can see that you will go far in this game...


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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:22 am 
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if i go 3 masterys i will have to farm is it worth 3 to farm and or if i farm when should i farm at my masterys r at 9 ill get them to 10 then ill have 9 gap at lvl 19 and get power farmed at ongss (enough sp for lvl 47) then farm at lvl 47. If i got 3 masterys wats better.
Bicheon/fire/cold- rather
bicheon/fire/lightning

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
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ill b able to get into partys coz i can tank.... am i right?

Nope wouldnt expect that. blader = freakishly low dmg so u wont help the pt to get alot exp...


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I don't know how it works out at high levels, but certainly up till now (64) I've had no problem joining parties; in fact I'm quite often sought out exactly because I can tank

My damage may not be as high as other classes, but I can generally 1-hit (or 1-combo) any mob my lvl and sometimes a couple of levels higher.

Bladers alone without other party member support can safely tank the largest number of mobs and pull them together to then allow the nukers/wizs to do their job

2-handers can die too easily in a muddle of mobs/party mobs/PCs/PGs
1-handers do better, but on occasions I've been last man standing when everyone else has died

Ofc as far as my char is concerned, the ones who know me love the fact I can rezz too, so they want/need me in their party

@Andy:
2 masteries as a longterm plan for 140 cap sounds v sensible...........................

.....except you'll get highly frustrated I suspect by your lack of other abilities and pvp deaths

Bladers may be tankers, but they can't escape the need for every bit of buff help they can get
A 2-mastery blader should still be pretty tough, but I'd suggest you'd need really good gear to last it out

I love my blader
I love the tanking and showing off how many mobs I can handle :P
I've died twice PVE in last ~30-40 lvls (except CTF), and both of those were within this past week to earth ghost warrior giants and a group of other mobs mainly cos my acc's lack enough fire resist (I was questing solo ofc, as I usually do)

Andy, just make a build you want to play, give it a chance.
Most builds would need 30-40 lvls to get a proper feel for how they work out.
I think you'll love being a blader, but be prepared for the cost of pots.... :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: do nukers really need cold
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:35 am 
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ok thankyou i feal excited now i think i want to go pacheon.fire.cold is that ok coz i dont like lightning! I will farm at lvl 19 (powerfarm at ongs) and get enough sp for lvl 47 then by lvl 56 i will i have a 9 gap and farm at penons. is my plan good?

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