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 Post subject: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:25 am 
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Wow.... 20k for a vigor recovery grain. That disappoints me very much.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Why? Did you want to spam those and try and play a euro like a chinese character?

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:28 am 
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Wow.... 20k for a vigor recovery grain. That disappoints me very much.



Where did you find the price?

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:33 am 
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Wanted it to be more :(

used to sell Vigor Grains 2m for 50....half profit now :(

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Mine won't even update. Koreans can't program!

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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tomiotar wrote:
Quintus wrote:
Wow.... 20k for a vigor recovery grain. That disappoints me very much.



Where did you find the price?


Hotan potion merchant

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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If that makes them fail, you should stop playing any games completely


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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wait..what?
you can buy vigor grains now?
fuckin death to the chinese race right there, joymax farked up.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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wait..what?
you can buy vigor grains now?
fuckin death to the chinese race right there, joymax farked up.


Nah, I'll just use vigors too in critical situations. Nobody said vigors are only for euro's to use :)


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:22 am 
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my god the new vigs are the death of a blader cant even kill now ffs


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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wtf are they doing.. euro are ment to party play, this only encourages them to solo. the only thing that made chinese and euro equal is the euro pot delay, and sure, the chinese would normaly come out on top in 1v1 pvp, cuz chinese are MADE to 1v1.. now we are just going have more vigor spamming whores with 70% sun sets claming they own cuz they can pot so fast which makes up for their lack of skill and a shitty build :banghead: also who is going to need a cleric any more when u can stack up only pretty cheap vigors and go grinding or pvp (as a euro should be doing group pvp anyway, not 1v1 so they should have a cleric..)

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:10 am 
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I always hoped that they won´t even sell vigor Pots, but now they sell vigor GrainsWTF?!?!

I think Euros will get more Shaitan Kills in future than now, cause they won´t die a lot anymore, that´s crap-.-
Maybe they will include Pot delay for Grains, too, but that would just cause another fail, damn Joymax...

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:21 am 
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wtf r u talking about, euros always used vigors, and from ppl they were cheaper in my server 500k for 50, lol, it won' chnage anything, i always used them and i will use now.


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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they point is, that u used them only in certain Situations, now that u can buy endless amounts of Vigors u can use them whenever u want as long as u have enough money in ur inventory...

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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they point is, that u used them only in certain Situations, now that u can buy endless amounts of Vigors u can use them whenever u want as long as u have enough money in ur inventory...


Not really. At the 80 cap, I had a giant stash of them at all times. Used them when I grinded, jobbed, pvped, warred, etc. Like somebody said earlier, a lot of people stalled them for a fairly decent price.

The only problem this is going to create is that now every euro is going to be able to do it as long as they have extra gold to splurge.

As for the chinese... meh, vigor pots are better mind you. The cool down on them is less then the grains and they heal more overall.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Your all looking at the WRONG thing - pvp.
What about profit? Before, on Alps i could sell a stack of 50 vigors for 1.2m without paying a penny for them and it was a great way to make some gold.
Now thats impossible, because people can buy stacks of 50 for 1m from NPC.

Yes, Joymax farked up - Big time.

(Oh yea, and chinese 90 bladers will be pritty much invincible now, good job JM.)

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:46 am 
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LOl like ppl didin't use vigors before, most ppl in this topic prolly are lvl 50 or so.. In my serevr u coudl always buy them in stall network 50 grains 500k, and all other vigors.


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Voluptas wrote:
Your all looking at the WRONG thing - pvp.
What about profit? Before, on Alps i could sell a stack of 50 vigors for 1.2m without paying a penny for them and it was a great way to make some gold.
Now thats impossible, because people can buy stacks of 50 for 1m from NPC.

Yes, Joymax farked up - Big time.

(Oh yea, and chinese 90 bladers will be pritty much invincible now, good job JM.)

hm... i see my profit going up :D lol

now that vigor grains are in shop, the vigor pot price went up since chinese are using them more


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:12 pm 
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You still can sell the grains at 750k and 1mil a stack isn't a big deal. Now they're just more available. I think it's great that they did it, but yet retarded.. of course rich euros when there isnt any in stall net "Gee let's spend a couple mil for some grains" and then.. which ruins the idea of vigor being only dropped item.

Those saying "zomfgz chinese are godly now" you forget the delay on them is 5second a normal xl pot is better for them.. A chinese user buying them = fail.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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nah uh normal pot + vigor for chinese is great


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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they point is, that u used them only in certain Situations, now that u can buy endless amounts of Vigors u can use them whenever u want as long as u have enough money in ur inventory...


Not really. At the 80 cap, I had a giant stash of them at all times. Used them when I grinded, jobbed, pvped, warred, etc. Like somebody said earlier, a lot of people stalled them for a fairly decent price.

The only problem this is going to create is that now every euro is going to be able to do it as long as they have extra gold to splurge.

As for the chinese... meh, vigor pots are better mind you. The cool down on them is less then the grains and they heal more overall.


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Does anyone else think this actually might have an interesting effect on the gold price...now more people will consider buying gold!

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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MrFudge wrote:
wait..what?
you can buy vigor grains now?
fuckin death to the chinese race right there, joymax farked up.


They are 20k a piece from the Potion NPC. I suspect even higher from the Jangan NPC.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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they point is, that u used them only in certain Situations, now that u can buy endless amounts of Vigors u can use them whenever u want as long as u have enough money in ur inventory...


Not really. At the 80 cap, I had a giant stash of them at all times. Used them when I grinded, jobbed, pvped, warred, etc. Like somebody said earlier, a lot of people stalled them for a fairly decent price.

The only problem this is going to create is that now every euro is going to be able to do it as long as they have extra gold to splurge.

As for the chinese... meh, vigor pots are better mind you. The cool down on them is less then the grains and they heal more overall.


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Does anyone else think this actually might have an interesting effect on the gold price...now more people will consider buying gold!


um, no? Gold isn't that difficult to make. And unless I wasn't notified, the special blue pills were the same price and themselves didn't encourage gold buying.

Anyway, good and bad thing, encourages 1v1 in euros, and helps quite a bit.. hurts Chinese players' prides. And seriously, if you're char is good enough, this game doesn't always have to be party based. Again, from the start of the euro update people knew there wouldnt always be someone to help out.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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I dont tink it is that bad
maybe the prices go down a litle bit u used to sel them for 1.2kk now u can sel them for 1kk is is it that big deal?Litle bit easier to get but stil expensive this wont change so much.
btw can u sel them for much more to the npc now?

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Same here, lol. And it's very annoying! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


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Mine won't even update. Koreans can't program!


Same here, lol. And it's very annoying! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


do it over as many time as u can, and keep opening silkroadonline.net and refresing over and over and over while u keep opening sro and it will work soon, i had this problem to.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Joymax = Fail? Lol why are YOU still playing the dam game then

The price is what it is lol don't like it? Dont buy it, end of story

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Joymax = Fail? Lol why are YOU still playing the dam game then

The price is what it is lol don't like it? Dont buy it, end of story

Did you even read the thread? This all has nothing to do with fcking price. Try reading the thread before flaming it kid.

OT: The price of vigors will go down as they are more widely available, IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax = Fail
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Before last inspection:

DW South gate:

Euro gets hit by China uses a vigor.
China: Noob Euro! Used vigor NOOB!
Euro kills China.

Now at DW South gate:

Euro nukes China blader.
Blader auto pots, plus uses a vigor.
Euro: China Noob! Used vigor NOOB!
China kills euro.


*sigh* Here we go again. lol
Now that they are sold at the npc, think vigors will be more mainstream in pvp then they were before?


*Edit: I can't spell worth a dam today. lol

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I sometimes wonder if Joymax errs on the majority of it's customers.


Meaning mostly the china player base? I would think they would much rather have 400 skill masteries then be able to purchase a vigor grain thru an npc.

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