Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:54 pm
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Ragnorak wrote:
Hustlar wrote:
it maybe looks good using ur shield as a glavier in a pvp fight, the only thing ur doingwith that is surviving longer, against a warrior a glavier is just a no-go.
the whole point of having a shield is to survive long enough for bless/skins to be over...are u saying that u can kill a lvl 90 with max bless/skins with a +6 glaivie? even if..i had sun glavie I don't think I could win over his b/s... this was also done with 84+5/85+5 leg/chest/84+4 necklace...
and the reason I have prot its because of 2hand/rogue.. and most other str. build have garms...so I have better def..vs them...
as for nukers... I do fine with protectors...just need Xlarge MP/pills I have not pvp a force nuker yet but I most likely will loose on protectors...pills can not kill up with the debuff.
ye true, gonna rethink bout getting protector
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:48 pm
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Toshiharu wrote:
Wonder why you didn't port to town for gold buff up again and speed to run around when your skins run out.
Amazed that they can pvp normally. Rag would @above. ilia would have an assload of people brown nosing it up.
Fight was ok. It gets boring to see 2h and glaive now. @Above. Lawl. That's like half the capped 90s in Troy as well.
I did loose the 1st pvp and lost by H. buff..didn't had had it on 2nd fight.... there are several strong glaviers on Troy that I win/loose against.. and they can kill 2hand as well...most annoying thing is that ST. 80% KB...need to end it before bless/skins is ready again....or it will basically bring the pvp. back to where it started .
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:18 pm
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[SD]bizzle wrote:
the_wicked wrote:
_Scarlett_ wrote:
That's a first...getting to see a pure str chi in snow use vigors
oh ffs. Vigors are part of the game, i spam the hell out of them.,
+1
I don't really use vigors for any pvp. of course a Sun is an exception since I don't have any sun prot/acc. They are not exactly cheap to be spam everyday just for pvp....now Job war/fort is another story...I spam them like there is no end to it.
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:43 pm
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LoL, I hope Ilia didn't sell the Sun... Heard he's been trying to scam people with it... Anyway, he needs it badly...
Nice tanking tho Rag, always annoying when you pull that shield while on SS in CTFs! LoL!
Edit: Ever tried spamming Ghost Spears instead of Stun while he does the noob ST? Compared to the ST, even your lower lvl GS can actually damage. Plus if you get a KB, you got some room and time to do Stuns...
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:56 am
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Grimm-.- wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Grimm-.- wrote:
I couldn't sit through that video....
that 2h is horrible with his build..
Explain please?
Well... It wasn't all bad... I guess i exaggerated a bit when i said horrible just this one thing kept annoying me.
why wasn't he using triple swing after KD... doesn't make sense
_iIia_ is a horrible warrior, he immitates what everyone else does. And there are no war/clerics that can continue to pvp between bless and skins, and thus have a 1~2 minutes of shield bashing in between. In fact, I've seen no one figuring this shit out. =]
Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:21 am
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rawr1337 wrote:
_iIia_ is a horrible warrior, he immitates what everyone else does. And there are no war/clerics that can continue to pvp between bless and skins, and thus have a 1~2 minutes of shield bashing in between. In fact, I've seen no one figuring this shit out. =]
w/c's that can only fight with bless and skins and then do that shield trash turtle shit until cooldown are plain pussies...
freakin learn how to play without bless n skins -_-
u have healing cycles and recovery heals for a reason
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:26 am
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I enjoyed ur test strip, Ragnarok I agree that against warrior/cleric, you can hold them off using snow shield, shield, protectors or armor sets, and vigor, even with sun, warrior/ cleric wont be able to kill you. You sure have a strategy against them there Thats one of the reason that I did not go warrior/cleric, I went warrior/ rogue instead. It may not be as all around as warrior/ cleric, but it kills faster
Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:20 am
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pizzagirl2008 wrote:
rawr1337 wrote:
_iIia_ is a horrible warrior, he immitates what everyone else does. And there are no war/clerics that can continue to pvp between bless and skins, and thus have a 1~2 minutes of shield bashing in between. In fact, I've seen no one figuring this shit out. =]
w/c's that can only fight with bless and skins and then do that shield trash turtle shit until cooldown are plain pussies...
freakin learn how to play without bless n skins -_-
u have healing cycles and recovery heals for a reason
Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:24 am
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Hey all, about the vigors we agreed that ragno can use em, the swing has no use in kd, cause he was using vigors that recovers his hp right after each hit of the swing, better use the bash and hope for 1 big crit that fcks his mp, and also right after the bash i can use the swing, so the 1st hit of the swing will be 50% damage increase too and the 1st hit of the swing is the strongest one... -.- anyways ragno's def is much higher than any glavier i pvped, even those who had sun shit, i hit harder on bladers, and i dunno how to explain that -.- ___________________________ edit: didnt sold my sun yet, still thinking about quitting. if ill quit ill sell it =)
Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:31 pm
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just changed from garment to protector today im glavier aswell, i like it, good for grinding to, almost killed my own lvl blader still need to pvp other str builds with garment, imsure i can take m out easy now ^^
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:02 pm
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Barotix wrote:
Nitro wrote:
HBblade wrote:
gear > build noobtards
Yeah ... thats why Warrior can 1 hit with Daredevil (non critical)full sun geared Warlock, Cleric (non blessed), Bard, Wizard, Spear (no snow shield), S/S nuker...
Yeah ... right gear > build ....
Full sun? You sure it isn't Full Blue? Do you know of any servers that have sun ints and w/c lvl 90 that might be wiling to help us test it?
Nah, never tested it , but I'm 100% sure they would die , if they arent buffed... DD hits 8-9k damage normally ... I doubt Sun can reduce damage for 4k... if that wouldnt kill them, then a turn rising would ...
(Oh yeah , Vortex hitted 8k critical (meaning 4k normal) Wizard with 3 suns in bless ... so they would die for sure)
And about you guys telling Warriors when they are without their skins / bless , switch to 1h/shield and tank ... that is part of the game ... we have pot delay, we can just spam Healing Orbit / Recovery ... Healing Orbit at lv.86 takes 7009 MP (Full STR with full blue gear has ~ 13k mp) ... Healing Cycle at lv.86 takes 3000 MP (okay , we can spam that) , Holy Recovery takes 2500 MP ... Its not that easy just to spam these , while damage goes really fast down ... You cast 2-3 spells and your MP is drained already ... not to say we need to use mp for Warrior skills ...
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:07 pm
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Well, 3 suns is nothing compared to full blued suns +5 with sun accessories +5 full blue, non-crit DD will be low against it. So basically; a Pure int without suns will be one-hit by non-crit DD. I saw this somewhere. Oh and I would ignore the guys that don't know how a w/c works.
Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:17 pm
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Yeah ... Full Int non sunned is definetely 1 hit by NonCrit DD ... Thats how things usually goes ... 1h/2h/Cleric vs Int S/S Snow Shield - Mana Skin ... Mana Skin Runs out -> cast Bless. Switch to Rod and Shield -> Healing Cycle , Switch to 1h - Sprint Assault / Shield Crush *Switch to 2h* Turn Rising *1h / Shield* etc etc... repeat that for 30 seconds ...
When snow shield runs out , Int S/S will cast castle shield ... tank 15 seconds of that ... Switch to Two Handed --> DD , and luckily if he doesnt block , he is dead...
Sorry guys , but thats how stuff goes... That is the only way we can beat them ... If you expect me to try my luck at double critting Int S/S while he is in snow shield ... I think I'll pass... I'll go safe way...
Their damage is way too high that we can handle against them with 2h equipped Note:
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Light Armor passives 117 physical defense 212 magical defense only from passives...
179 physical defense from Body Deity 318 magical defense from Soul Deity
That is 428 extra physical defense and 714 extra magical defense when I have Rod+Shield equipped ... (compared to 2h Sword)
I might aswell hold my Cleric rod whole time , shield crushing you... Yeah ... This is why 2h without 1h sux big time ... There are big diffrences ... And if someone expects me to hold 2h sword without skins ... no ty!
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Post subject: Re: _Ragnorak_'s Glaiver vs Warrior Test [Video]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:46 pm
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pizzagirl2008 wrote:
rawr1337 wrote:
_iIia_ is a horrible warrior, he immitates what everyone else does. And there are no war/clerics that can continue to pvp between bless and skins, and thus have a 1~2 minutes of shield bashing in between. In fact, I've seen no one figuring this shit out. =]
w/c's that can only fight with bless and skins and then do that shield trash turtle shit until cooldown are plain pussies...
freakin learn how to play without bless n skins -_-
u have healing cycles and recovery heals for a reason
I have to agreed that those that use TS/healing over/over/over again till skins/bless are back should just continue to pvp as though u have b/s on....if you fail to win in 90 secs. bad luck fight without then for a couple of sec more. its just plain annoying to be honest and doesn't mean you are guarantee to survive.
I could just run/phamton with a shield on when a warrior have s/b on but the warrior would most like say the following. fcking noob, weak.sh**t you better run...but they just prove that they are weak as well cuz they can't do anything without them...if you said ST is my skill....well using phamton is also my skill.
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