+7 is the new +5 but

sparta_sword · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 249 **Location:**

Ok maybe because of premium+ or increased competition whatever +5 is nothing anymore. +7 is the minimum to go as far as your weapon or shield goes (this is directed mainly toward 9th degree players).

So the debate is do you guys think we will start seeing alot more +9's this cap? I've already failed +9 on a 85 weapon and a few others have so +9 is still hard, even with premium+

Just as example, during 8 degree I had a +7 sword +5 shield, set was all +5, this cap my gear is all +6 jewelry +5 at the moment and weapons are +7, and I don't spend anymore in silk now then I did at 8D except for the premium+

Just want to know what other people are thinking

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

All 3 premiums have 5% lucky increase. That isn't a huge jump on success. Premiums doesn't make a difference at all. Maybe plus with stones, but pretty much it.

+7s were common at 80 cap. +7s will be common at this cap. +9s will still be 'rare' because the lack of balls in many people.

Norain_ · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 785 **Location:**

Toshiharu wrote:

All 3 premiums have 5% lucky increase. That isn't a huge jump on success. Premiums doesn't make a difference at all. Maybe plus with stones, but pretty much it.

+7s were common at 80 cap. +7s will be common at this cap. +9s will still be 'rare' because the lack of balls in many people.

+7 are very comon on Ksro to, so not a very big surprise. Think its more comon there and there are more +10 there to...

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

There isn't a lot of +10s you just snagged the ss of people bragging about how they made +10 and now lightning+blue on their weapon.

Norain_ · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 785 **Location:**

Toshiharu wrote:

There isn't a lot of +10s you just snagged the ss of people bragging about how they made +10 and now lightning+blue on their weapon.

i said there are more +10. how many +10 are there in isro? Much less than in Ksro, have u seen vids how many people running around with +7 there and compare how many running around with them in isro?

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

There isn't a need to go for +10 in isro. Those that make +9 is just for the blue glow nothing else. If we did have the plus update you'd see more +10s. Those that go for +10 just want to have a bigger e-penis and go "Look at that guys. I got the highest + in the server". So alright, you are correct that ksro has more +10s than isro.

I dunno about you, but Troy used to have.. let's see.. The ratio would be I dunno.. 2 weapons would be +7 out of 3.(Out of lv 80s)

+7 is common in Troy still. It's not as common as before, but you'll see it every turn you go. On random occasions you'll see +9. There is like 10 +9s. Half of them bows o.O;

Mcclane · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1027 **Location:**

I like how he has Summer spelled wrong in that, Personally i like the +7 glow more that the +9 on 9d weapons

sparta_sword · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 249 **Location:**

Norain_ wrote:

Toshiharu wrote:

There isn't a lot of +10s you just snagged the ss of people bragging about how they made +10 and now lightning+blue on their weapon.

i said there are more +10. how many +10 are there in isro? Much less than in Ksro, have u seen vids how many people running around with +7 there and compare how many running around with them in isro?

there is a 85+10 daggers made by Dorky on Sparta, but never the matter, most people know that alchemy in ksro is alot easier than isro, so your whole argument of it not being that uncommon as compared to ksro means nothing

Mcclane wrote:

I like how he has Summer spelled wrong in that

what are you talking about?

Hustlar · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 340 **Location:**

just a waste imo making +7 or higher, ppl mostly overprice it more then a sos +5 weap :/

Norain_ · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 785 **Location:**

sparta_sword wrote:

Norain_ wrote:

Toshiharu wrote:

There isn't a lot of +10s you just snagged the ss of people bragging about how they made +10 and now lightning+blue on their weapon.

i said there are more +10. how many +10 are there in isro? Much less than in Ksro, have u seen vids how many people running around with +7 there and compare how many running around with them in isro?

there is a 85+10 daggers made by Dorky on Sparta, but never the matter, most people know that alchemy in ksro is alot easier than isro, so your whole argument of it not being that uncommon as compared to ksro means nothing

Mcclane wrote:

I like how he has Summer spelled wrong in that

what are you talking about?

Tell me from where u got that fact. In alchemy Plussing.

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

1st thing: luck increase of prem+ is a LIE.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:10 am

selenne wrote:

1st thing: luck increase of prem+ is a LIE.

+100
I had +6 SIX TIMES ON MY 2H AND EVERY TIME IT FAILED 7
FFS

Millenium · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 2732 **Location:** Waterloo

selenne wrote:

1st thing: luck increase of prem+ is a LIE.

Its not a lie.

Its truth but way too insignificant

EngravedDemon · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 750 **Location:**

Still lots of ppl getting away with CCFs...

For 9D you only need a lvl 71 character... Which you can stock up to what? 5k silk a month? It's kinda sad, especially when you only roll around with +5s... LoL! But oh well, it ain't all about gears, that much I know for sure...

Mcclane · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1027 **Location:**

Norain_ wrote:

Mcclane wrote:

I like how he has Summer spelled wrong in that

what are you talking about?

Tell me from where u got that fact. In alchemy Plussing.[/quote]

The second ksro pic in the inventory

covenuncle · **Posted:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:27 am

ok ppl who dont know from where someone got a fact.,.....buy a different premiums...and read what it says when u activate it.....luck in alchemy is increased on all of them by 5% only...and thats it....for normal premium and premium +...it is 5% only.....for making items blue which is alchemy probability...it is increased to 10%....luck is 5% and thats it....luck is crucial in making item +7/+9 etc etc....alchemy probability is when u making items blue....

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

covenuncle wrote:

k ppl who dont know from where someone got a fact.,.....buy a different premiums...and read what it says when u activate it.....luck in alchemy is increased on all of them by 5% only...and thats it....for normal premium and premium +...it is 5% only.....for making items blue which is alchemy probability...it is increased to 10%....luck is 5% and thats it....luck is crucial in making item +7/+9 etc etc....alchemy probability is when u making items blue....

Please, type more legibly than that.

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:12 am

It has nothing to do with the success rates and all to do with inflation. When the game first statred a +7 was very rare, elixers still cost 250k ( at least when i started in mid 60 cap ) yet peoples overall net worth was much lower than it is now. Now days with people haveing $5 billion or more and elixers still costing around the same price, people justify spending more money on elixers.

And logically more elixers = higher +'s.

Also at that ksro comment, they have the +7 astral as far as my knowledge is concerned so it really is easier.

HolyPure · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 365 **Location:** Hotan

i dont think so, the astral there is for keep the item +5 not +7

sparta_sword · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 249 **Location:**

yeah what the 2 posts above said, also how am I suppose to provide proof that alchemy in ksro is easier? want me to go rip the code from the servers there in some kind of mission impossible sequence? pfft

it's easier I know it is, and since I can't provide proof for you lil nubs youll just have to take it as my opinion

p.s. made 85+8 yesterday ;-D

Project-Dragon · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 328 **Location:** Germany

Millenium wrote:

selenne wrote:

1st thing: luck increase of prem+ is a LIE.

Its not a lie.

Its truth but way too insignificant

Or Joymax didn't even add an increase because no one would be able prove it?

CLOT · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 825 **Location:**

isro astral to +4
ksro astral to +7

simple as that

Norain_ · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 785 **Location:**

CLOT wrote:

isro astral to +4
ksro astral to +7

simple as that

No ksro astral is at +5

huejas · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1804 **Location:**

Im pretty sure no lv.90 will settle with just a lame +5 weapon.....my bow is +4

Failed at +7 3 times now :banghead:

AkillerNXC · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1014 **Location:**

Norain_ wrote:

CLOT wrote:

isro astral to +4
ksro astral to +7

simple as that

No ksro astral is at +5

AFAIK. Ksro has 2 types of astral, one for +4 (May have changed to +5 but idk) and another for +7.

Mishiru · **Posted:** Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:09 am

yes in ksro exist another astral for +7. so isn`t hard up the items to +7 or more.
btw in greece i saw a xbow 72+11 \¬¬|

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