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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:18 am 
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i love this build


but the 100 pach 100 fire 100 ice sounds interesting, yes u wont have speed and shit but with the 5 and 6 combo arrows with ice imblue should be fun and annoy the crap out of ppl :)

most people get ice resist. so you would prolly wanna do 100 pach 100 fire (imbune) 100 lightning but only probs you'd suck at pvp so maybe 100 pach 100 lightning (immbune) 100 cold

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:24 am 
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100 fire, 100 pach, 100 light.

Drop Ice.

Your strength, you don't need it!

If Defense becomes a problem, wear prot. But a high parry is replacing your defense.

Wear Prot.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:24 am 
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I don't have ice for the fact of icing people, I have it for the extra defense. Also another way of canceling attacks if i do freeze them.
ice -> debuff -> shoot
Simple combo, if they resist they resist, still gonna be debuffed. If they dont resist i just bought myself some more time.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:59 am 
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[SW]XMoshe wrote:
MiKe 51-50 wrote:
I think dropping fire is better.
100 glavie
100 lighting/imbue (grass walk and phantom)
60 fire(immune)
40 ice (snow shield)


30 fire/70 ice then? you can be immune with 30 fire.

yea either or. Then when 110 cap comes drop ice to 50.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:16 am 
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So your gonna trade damage for speed and some defense? Glaive doesn't need more defence light can be low. Keep fire high.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:00 am 
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KsqueaKJ wrote:
i love this build


but the 100 pach 100 fire 100 ice sounds interesting, yes u wont have speed and shit but with the 5 and 6 combo arrows with ice imblue should be fun and annoy the crap out of ppl :)

most people get ice resist. so you would prolly wanna do 100 pach 100 fire (imbune) 100 lightning but only probs you'd suck at pvp so maybe 100 pach 100 lightning (immbune) 100 cold



ya true alot of ppl are but euros arent and its also for the phy defense

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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Why such low ice? At 90 cap without ice, bow are weak. I see alot of people arguing a bow Isn't a bow without light which is so wrong...

100 bow build = 100 pach 100 fire 100 ice.


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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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Phaidra wrote:
Why such low ice? At 90 cap without ice, bow are weak. I see alot of people arguing a bow Isn't a bow without light which is so wrong...

100 bow build = 100 pach 100 fire 100 ice.

and be slow?
what about a 100 lighting 100 cold 100 pach?

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:53 am 
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my plan for 100 cap...
wait for it so this guy stops making new threads about plannin what to do when the lvl cap comes... i bet you anything hes gonna quit b4 it even comes out... 1 more thing dont plan on it coming out any soon... im talkin 1-2 years so.... STFU

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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brentonsbbe359 wrote:
Phaidra wrote:
Why such low ice? At 90 cap without ice, bow are weak. I see alot of people arguing a bow Isn't a bow without light which is so wrong...

100 bow build = 100 pach 100 fire 100 ice.

and be slow?
what about a 100 lighting 100 cold 100 pach?


Don't see the point in lightning if you're full STR and I'd pick 9% extra physical damage, immunity, Mag Defence +277 (lvl 99) and the passive 10% extra physical damage (lvl 100) over speed, parry ratio and mag damage anyday. Speed isn't everything.


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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:27 am 
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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:41 am 
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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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100 fire / 100 pach / 80 light / 20 cold (90/90/80/40 at 90 cap) are the best non-force bow builds, IMO.


Why not 60 cold and 40 light? or 68 cold and 32 light? 60 cold grants 88 phy defense, 3 snow shields ( 20% for normal 1v1 pvp can be kept easily enough, the other two for when a bard is present ) and you still get a low level of phantom. With a bard in your party or anyone with a sub bard ( not very rare now days ) 80 light for grass walk isn't needed.

You can still get around 60% moving speed with garms ( not exact, though for arguments sake lets say 60 ) and considering you are a ranged build you hardly need too much speed.

80 light doesn't give you that much beside speed. The parry ratio increases are nothing compared to the defense options ice grant you and you cant use the light imbue due to it being 20 levels behind your fire one.

68 cold and 32 light would also suffice ( or whatever the minimum level is to gain phantom ). The 1st level of phantom is all you really need from light as a str based bow build imo considering speed is so easily gained and not needed much when you have great range.


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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:01 am 
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if you dont care about what people think, why the hell are you posting this then?

your totaly right...
dont post if you do not care about peoples opinion xD
if you dont want help dont ask for...
you wasted another 40 seconds of my life couse im not the fastest typer

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:25 am 
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Why are people bitching about immunity ?

When they update our version only bladers and s/s nukers will be 'immune'. Seeing as unequipping a shield will cancel the effects of let's say Fire Shield.

My build for glaive would still be 100 Heuk/Fire/Light tho. The damage gain far surpasses the defence gained in ice.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:32 am 
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If ur super rich, give up light, many skill could be replace with items:
- typhoon drug
- parry/hit ratio scroll increase
- PT+ -> +10% phy/mag dmg incr -> +10% absortion ->
- Avatar -> +5% dmg, +5% abs -> 5% parry ratio
- Damage scroll +20%
- Resistance scroll +20% abs

With all that items, u increased your dmg up to 35%, and reduce the enemy dmg to -35%, in the result, your dmg ~ 2.5x enemy dmg. Making a non sun become like a sun gear user.
=> 100 pacheon, 100 fire, 100 ice is a super tanker and killer

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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HolyPure wrote:
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100 pach 100 fire 100 cold + cold imbue the best for 100 cap , max def and good attack 8)


and ur speed ? allways the same things here, oh lemme guess ull just buy drugs all the time right ? :-P :roll:


The drugs might make you walk faster, but for a bower, the phantom walk is SOOOO usefull

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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If ur super rich, give up light, many skill could be replace with items:
- typhoon drug
- parry/hit ratio scroll increase
- PT+ -> +10% phy/mag dmg incr -> +10% absortion ->
- Avatar -> +5% dmg, +5% abs -> 5% parry ratio
- Damage scroll +20%
- Resistance scroll +20% abs

With all that items, u increased your dmg up to 35%, and reduce the enemy dmg to -35%, in the result, your dmg ~ 2.5x enemy dmg. Making a non sun become like a sun gear user.
=> 100 pacheon, 100 fire, 100 ice is a super tanker and killer

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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You can never replace the usefulness of Ghost Walk with money. Being able to effectively run away is key. You won't be able to run away from Bowers without being able to get out of range of the KB. You can say you'll never need to run away but then you are just fooling yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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NuclearSilo wrote:
If ur super rich, give up light, many skill could be replace with items:
- typhoon drug
- parry/hit ratio scroll increase
- PT+ -> +10% phy/mag dmg incr -> +10% absortion ->
- Avatar -> +5% dmg, +5% abs -> 5% parry ratio
- Damage scroll +20%
- Resistance scroll +20% abs

With all that items, u increased your dmg up to 35%, and reduce the enemy dmg to -35%, in the result, your dmg ~ 2.5x enemy dmg. Making a non sun become like a sun gear user.
=> 100 pacheon, 100 fire, 100 ice is a super tanker and killer

Not everyone buys silk or is willing to waste that much silk on all that just to be stronger.

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:04 am 
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im making a pure int S/S sooo:

100 - Light
100 - Bicheon
100 - Cold

Fire does nothing really for me...immunity is jsut gonna have to go...just that fighting a ice freak is gona be a bit harsh..but cant last for long anyways...

some gonna go:

100 - Light
100 - Fire
100 - Cold

I jsut hope and pray that ur nukes are harsh cuz...no bleed and div :S gonna suck real bad...

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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:10 am 
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heh xbows/bows will pwn fire/ice/light nukers... 1 kb + 1 crit and they dead


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 Post subject: Re: My plan for Lvl 100 Cap
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i see...much confidence...that will happen yes...as long as ur stuff is +7 and over...but watch out for us who +7 our prot/amour FTW....and not to mention sosun/som pieces 8) we will see dnt worry..and Bowers notgonna kb and 1 crit no s/s....no strong well build one that is..they the ones who gonna get pawn by glaivers lol....and 1handed euros...lol they the weakest Str build in the whole game...even a blader a 100cap gonna own em easily..just watch!

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