Warrior Cleric; best or best?

Infectious · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

frankaslt1 wrote:

Every time there is job war some undressed clerics show up and make it to endless fight which get bored after 20min and every1 leave.

Can't blame all the euro characters for that.

PureStr · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1244 **Location:** GTA5

StacE wrote:

You were not the dominant force as a guild on Xian. Otherwise you would have held the fortress. NIKE were your friends? Didn't they take fortress?

Lol @ Idiots.

slimshady · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:10 pm

Infectious wrote:

frankaslt1 wrote:

Every time there is job war some undressed clerics show up and make it to endless fight which get bored after 20min and every1 leave.

Can't blame all the euro characters for that.

Is cleric its own race or somthing? I coulda sworn it was a european and responsible for ruining the job system...

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:12 pm

slimshady wrote:

Infectious wrote:

frankaslt1 wrote:

Every time there is job war some undressed clerics show up and make it to endless fight which get bored after 20min and every1 leave.

Can't blame all the euro characters for that.

Is cleric its own race or somthing? I coulda sworn it was a european and responsible for ruining the job system...

Haha nice one, euros ruining the job system xD

They made it alot better, atleast now you are able to do 5* with lv5x hunters and lv5x trader.

Infectious · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

slimshady wrote:

Infectious wrote:

frankaslt1 wrote:

Every time there is job war some undressed clerics show up and make it to endless fight which get bored after 20min and every1 leave.

Can't blame all the euro characters for that.

Is cleric its own race or somthing? I coulda sworn it was a european and responsible for ruining the job system...

You can't just say all Euros are gay just because one class affected the job system. And I agree with bloodyblade, they didn't ruin the job system, they made it possible for lower levels to do 5*'s.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:25 pm

Indeed, thats what Im talking about ^^
Now you can do a 5* with your grinding party, and you dont need to call in a lv90 wizard to hunt you

slimshady · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:37 pm

how many low levels actually do 5*? Not just clerics ruined it, when the update came you cant equip suit out of town, have to wait a week to change jobs, have to make an alias name, have to pay to get the alias changed, and theifs can no longer pop. i dont think the update benefits anyone cept MAYBE low lvl traders...i wasnt aware you couldnt do a 5 star before new job update? anyways we are way offtopic lol.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:40 pm

slimshady wrote:

how many low levels actually do 5*? Not just clerics ruined it, when the update came you cant equip suit out of town, have to wait a week to change jobs, have to make an alias name, have to pay to get the alias changed, and theifs can no longer pop. i dont think the update benefits anyone cept MAYBE low lvl traders...i wasnt aware you couldnt do a 5 star before new job update? anyways we are way offtopic lol.

Well, you cant blame euros for the new things joymax added

Infectious · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

Exactly. Maybe we should get back on topic, though. :oops:

nohunta · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:44 pm

Euros are overpowered period. It's overpowered until they dont get a 2nd class.

Mousetrap · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 817 **Location:**

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Warrior/Cleric isn't the best: I'd have to agree with albel, the most problems I've had against chinese are against glaivers in protector/armor or bladers...fought a blader in armor once (omfg went on for about 15mins before we called it quits).

In my personal experience glaivers aren't hard no matter what they wear.. bladers are harder yes, but you should be able to kill them within 5 minutes even if they use snow.
There's only one person I can think of on my server who is a total potwar.. livestoned aka niki aka jeff - force blader. Can't use bleed, or dull + bind combos because he can cure them really fast.

_Scarlett_ · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 1567 **Location:**

Mousetrap wrote:

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Warrior/Cleric isn't the best: I'd have to agree with albel, the most problems I've had against chinese are against glaivers in protector/armor or bladers...fought a blader in armor once (omfg went on for about 15mins before we called it quits).

In my personal experience glaivers aren't hard no matter what they wear.. bladers are harder yes, but you should be able to kill them within 5 minutes even if they use snow.
There's only one person I can think of on my server who is a total potwar.. livestoned aka niki aka jeff - force blader. Can't use bleed, or dull + bind combos because he can cure them really fast.

He's gotta blader now '~,o? But yeah, glaivers aren't that hard, just makes it a bit harder when they wear armor or protector. But force bladers sux as far as getting statuses on them goes. Can't imagine how long of a pot fight that'd be....

heavenfalls · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 7 **Location:** unknow

I never use bless or skins unless I'm getting ganged or they are pure STR using snow with sun, though I never used them on any of the mentioned people up there except for the second sun blader.. because he was just so turkish

kinda hard to believed that cause the sun spear you pvp with all he need is nuke first which should do around 15k+ in damage and a soulspear or ghost spear which another 15k+ in damage that 30k in total and quick too so you wont be able to pot back right a way and with snow shield he can tank you fine i wanna see a vids of how you beat him without using skin or bless since i lost to a +7 spear user in my server and he got no sun gear at all
here the guy i fight with
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=382643

_Creep_ · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:52 pm

Mousetrap wrote:

weymouthhall wrote:

@ Mousetrap, with your robe sets like that, against other warriors with heavy armor set full blue pimped or warrior/rogue like me, you wont even have a chance of winning, to be honest :roll:

mmm.. second link in first post; the guy has 4 suns and som legs heavy armor and I beat him so I guess I have a chance o.O.
lrn2reed

Trust me, weymouthhall is very very strong, and have amazing switching skills, but also have godly set. I pretty sure he could own you.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Warrior/Cleric isn't the best: I'd have to agree with albel, the most problems I've had against chinese are against glaivers in protector/armor or bladers...fought a blader in armor once (omfg went on for about 15mins before we called it quits).

This is why I like my warlock sub better, just kill them with 1 daredevil after debuffs... I use 3 skills max on any build after debuffs(usually 1, but 2-3 if they're full sun

).

Mousetrap · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 817 **Location:**

_Creep_ wrote:

Mousetrap wrote:

weymouthhall wrote:

@ Mousetrap, with your robe sets like that, against other warriors with heavy armor set full blue pimped or warrior/rogue like me, you wont even have a chance of winning, to be honest :roll:

mmm.. second link in first post; the guy has 4 suns and som legs heavy armor and I beat him so I guess I have a chance o.O.
lrn2reed

Trust me, weymouthhall is very very strong, and have amazing switching skills, but also have godly set. I pretty sure he could own you.

The two builds I actually have to play very careful against are warrior and rogue; he is both. so I'm pretty sure he could also, all I was saying is that a warrior in robes fighting one in HA, even sun HA can still win. (which he obviously didn't see in the first post.)

@ 5 post guy, tis rendering.. though I have a feeling you'll never see it
youtube is gay blahblah copyright, so I had to use filefront
http://files.filefront.com/sunzinpoofsw ... einfo.html

heavenfalls · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 7 **Location:** unknow

wow he did a 17k and a 19k crit on you after that and you still didnt die :shock:

amazing no comment i guess it just me then

Aiyas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:26 pm

slimshady wrote:

how many low levels actually do 5*? Not just clerics ruined it, when the update came you cant equip suit out of town, have to wait a week to change jobs, have to make an alias name, have to pay to get the alias changed, and theifs can no longer pop. i dont think the update benefits anyone cept MAYBE low lvl traders...i wasnt aware you couldnt do a 5 star before new job update? anyways we are way offtopic lol.

That I don't miss.

thechampion80 · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 565 **Location:** on Earth

heavenfalls wrote:

wow he did a 17k and a 19k crit on you after that and you still didnt die :shock:

amazing no comment i guess it just me then

grains

the_wicked wrote:

I admit personally there isn't much competition on venus but there are at least 1-2 strong, skilled players of each class (for the most part) on venus. And I have to admit the only ones, as a warrior cleric myself, that I have had trouble killing is glaive in rediculous armor, blader, and pretty much any good char in snowshield (prot glaive force with snow, s/s snow)

However, I don't lose often. I have died a few times, even split a series with a glaiver 4-4 once. TBH, im not gonna call warrior cleric the best build out there, but in even 1v1 with similar gear the war cleric will win most of the time.

@fly : asya is a noob. <3
@flamers: shut up, keep on topic stop being f@ggots

lol

StacE · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 502 **Location:**

OTG wrote:

StacE wrote:

Fly... It's an MMO. You win by playing more. How is that skill?

How about we start another colony on a new server Fly. And pretend it's as strong as the others so we can talk about how good we are? Sounds fun ye.

EDIT* Hang on I'll give the game some credit. There is some skill involved. The skill level to reach peak though is so small that anyone can pick it up in a matter of hours to days. Once you learn when to press 2 and when to press 3 there is no better way to do it. The situation is the same every time. The way to beat someone is the same every time.

The only time that a different situation is presented is through the use of randomized blocking and critting. But that detracts from the idea of a skillful game. There should not be luck involved in a game requiring skill.

Well this is retarted, if you are implying that you can pick up when to do a certain skill in a certain situation. That applies to anything in life, from playing Basketball to boxing. You always pick up when to do a certain thing at a certain point. There is skill within the game and people with your mentality are what makes up 95% of the Silkroad population, making my 88 blader a$$ own so many with a crappy set.

So much skill pressing 12345 for 5 hours. Then pressing 2,3 to luckily crit some nub 5 times ina row. Dam straight your blader pwns a$$ bitch.

Comparing a skill that recquires hard work and practice to perfect is just a little different to pushing a button. Nice try though.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

It's more like experience+logic than skill in SRO but if you want to call it that, thats ok.

hapnz · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:59 am

Corrupt wrote:

Warriors should be the "tanks" like other mmos & not be able to crit dmg equal to a nuker. 2hander shouldn't even be allowed to cast skins they are able to tank a shit load w/ skins and still do outrageous damage....

Every 2h skill except triple has a chance to interrupt the opponents attack while doing 6-9k normals with 15+k crits and still able to cast skins so you nuke them for 5-9k while having 30k+ hp...I'd say that's pretty crazy.

SRO, the home of STR nukers.

nohunta wrote:

Euros are overpowered period. It's overpowered until they dont get a 2nd class.

imo, this would make the game more interesting.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:32 am

hapnz wrote:

Corrupt wrote:

Warriors should be the "tanks" like other mmos & not be able to crit dmg equal to a nuker. 2hander shouldn't even be allowed to cast skins they are able to tank a shit load w/ skins and still do outrageous damage....

Every 2h skill except triple has a chance to interrupt the opponents attack while doing 6-9k normals with 15+k crits and still able to cast skins so you nuke them for 5-9k while having 30k+ hp...I'd say that's pretty crazy.

SRO, the home of STR nukers.

nohunta wrote:

Euros are overpowered period. It's overpowered until they dont get a 2nd class.

imo, this would make the game more interesting.

No it wont, ppl would get other things to moan about.

Cavalorn · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 70 **Location:**

Warrior-Clerics are overpowered. Its pure str, but hits like a nuker lol. With crits its even more. Almost every skill they have can interrupt their opponent. +recovery division and other stuff= auto pot. Bless spell=god mode 1. Skins= god mode2. With sprint assault, they can close the gap between them and the opponent in every few seconds with a chance of stun...
+ My favuorite: With the crit passive (which is already overpowered) and 100% crit in the weapon at lvl 90 they have 24 critical. (which is far more than you can ever reach even with a sun weapon...) . Oh wait rogues with 100% critical in weapon have 25 crit !! Thats +1 lol.
So with a 2H sword you can hit almost as accurate as a dagger?

Im not even talking about warrior-warlocks, because what they are doing, is not even pvp lol.
You dont even have a chance to move because they are so "skilled".

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Cavalorn wrote:

Warrior-Clerics are overpowered. Its pure str, but hits like a nuker lol. With crits its even more. Almost every skill they have can interrupt their opponent. +recovery division and other stuff= auto pot. Bless spell=god mode 1. Skins= god mode2. With sprint assault, they can close the gap between them and the opponent in every few seconds with a chance of stun...
+ My favuorite: With the crit passive (which is already overpowered) and 100% crit in the weapon at lvl 90 they have 24 critical. (which is far more than you can ever reach even with a sun weapon...) . Oh wait rogues with 100% critical in weapon have 25 crit !! Thats +1 lol.
So with a 2H sword you can hit almost as accurate as a dagger?

Im not even talking about warrior-warlocks, because what they are doing, is not even pvp lol.
You dont even have a chance to move because they are so "skilled".

1- +1
2- get a cleric

imo warlocks are not overpowered as much as they are interesting.. its like u can have it all if the opponent isnt immune via holy spell, or have just about nothing vs a holy spelled opponent. and since 1v1 fights are just for fun, u ought to have a holy spell'er in ur party if u intend to group pvp. then all warlocks will do is stun and dot

KsqueaKJ · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 257 **Location:** Illinois

StacE wrote:

OTG wrote:

StacE wrote:

Fly... It's an MMO. You win by playing more. How is that skill?

How about we start another colony on a new server Fly. And pretend it's as strong as the others so we can talk about how good we are? Sounds fun ye.

EDIT* Hang on I'll give the game some credit. There is some skill involved. The skill level to reach peak though is so small that anyone can pick it up in a matter of hours to days. Once you learn when to press 2 and when to press 3 there is no better way to do it. The situation is the same every time. The way to beat someone is the same every time.

The only time that a different situation is presented is through the use of randomized blocking and critting. But that detracts from the idea of a skillful game. There should not be luck involved in a game requiring skill.

Well this is retarted, if you are implying that you can pick up when to do a certain skill in a certain situation. That applies to anything in life, from playing Basketball to boxing. You always pick up when to do a certain thing at a certain point. There is skill within the game and people with your mentality are what makes up 95% of the Silkroad population, making my 88 blader a$$ own so many with a crappy set.

So much skill pressing 12345 for 5 hours. Then pressing 2,3 to luckily crit some nub 5 times ina row. Dam straight your blader pwns a$$ bitch.

Comparing a skill that recquires hard work and practice to perfect is just a little different to pushing a button. Nice try though.

you really didn't understand what he said at all. a good/smart pvper doesn't button mash that's what the noobs do, i really cant get over the stupidity of ppl on this forum.

but either way OT: warrior clerics without bless are not that hard to kill unless of course they got sun weapon and you got no sun set at all then its just pointless to even pvp. and they arent the best or the best, cocky bastard.

thechampion80 · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 565 **Location:** on Earth

KsqueaKJ wrote:

you really didn't understand what he said at all. a good/smart pvper doesn't button mash that's what the noobs do, i really cant get over the stupidity of ppl on this forum.

but either way OT: warrior clerics without bless are not that hard to kill unless of course they got sun weapon and you got no sun set at all then its just pointless to even pvp. and they arent the best or the best, cocky bastard.

+1
people are stupid these days :banghead:

but there is a lot of luck involved (crits,blocks,status,etc.)
and ofc gear :roll:

StacE · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 502 **Location:**

KsqueaKJ wrote:

you really didn't understand what he said at all. a good/smart pvper doesn't button mash that's what the noobs do, i really cant get over the stupidity of ppl on this forum.

but either way OT: warrior clerics without bless are not that hard to kill unless of course they got sun weapon and you got no sun set at all then its just pointless to even pvp. and they arent the best or the best, cocky bastard.

No matter how you phrase it - you are always doing the same f*cking thing in SRO. The PvP is so generically single phased. You will always press 2,3 and hope for a lucky crit or two in a row to finish off an opponent. As i said if you bothered to read the thread the only slight skill involvement is timing. So seriously mate, shut the **** up clueless idiot.

EG. 2 Glaive users face to face - whoever crits first or more in a row will win. Or rather whoever gets to stun then crit will win. There is no skill involved in that. Literally NONE. Whilst other builds are often more "Skillful" and i use the term very loosely, they too are just single minded button mashing in the end.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

StacE wrote:

KsqueaKJ wrote:

you really didn't understand what he said at all. a good/smart pvper doesn't button mash that's what the noobs do, i really cant get over the stupidity of ppl on this forum.

but either way OT: warrior clerics without bless are not that hard to kill unless of course they got sun weapon and you got no sun set at all then its just pointless to even pvp. and they arent the best or the best, cocky bastard.

No matter how you phrase it - you are always doing the same f*cking thing in SRO. The PvP is so generically single phased. You will always press 2,3 and hope for a lucky crit or two in a row to finish off an opponent. As i said if you bothered to read the thread the only slight skill involvement is timing. So seriously mate, shut the **** up clueless idiot.

EG. 2 Glaive users face to face - whoever crits first or more in a row will win. Or rather whoever gets to stun then crit will win. There is no skill involved in that. Literally NONE. Whilst other builds are often more "Skillful" and i use the term very loosely, they too are just single minded button mashing in the end.

I must dissagre ... Warrior/Cleric is not just button humping ...
Next to Rogue/Cleric and Warlock/Cleric its the most skill-required build to play...
Ofcourse if playing propperly ... skill in this game comes at Euros ...

Weapon Switching, fast renewing of healing cycle etc etc... You can learn that in 2-3 days like you can learn how to play Blader or Glavie.
Usually when I play my Warrior/Cleric, it depends on me will I lose, or not (<- I think that for alot of Warrior/Clerics this sentance will be fimiliary)... If I make mistake I'll lose, if not, I win ...
Its ALWAYS like that, ofcourse if we are at same level and gear is somehow balanced.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

Nitro wrote:

StacE wrote:

KsqueaKJ wrote:

you really didn't understand what he said at all. a good/smart pvper doesn't button mash that's what the noobs do, i really cant get over the stupidity of ppl on this forum.

but either way OT: warrior clerics without bless are not that hard to kill unless of course they got sun weapon and you got no sun set at all then its just pointless to even pvp. and they arent the best or the best, cocky bastard.

No matter how you phrase it - you are always doing the same f*cking thing in SRO. The PvP is so generically single phased. You will always press 2,3 and hope for a lucky crit or two in a row to finish off an opponent. As i said if you bothered to read the thread the only slight skill involvement is timing. So seriously mate, shut the **** up clueless idiot.

EG. 2 Glaive users face to face - whoever crits first or more in a row will win. Or rather whoever gets to stun then crit will win. There is no skill involved in that. Literally NONE. Whilst other builds are often more "Skillful" and i use the term very loosely, they too are just single minded button mashing in the end.

I must dissagre ... Warrior/Cleric is not just button humping ...
Next to Rogue/Cleric and Warlock/Cleric its the most skill-required build to play...
Ofcourse if playing propperly ... skill in this game comes at Euros ...

Weapon Switching, fast renewing of healing cycle etc etc... You can learn that in 2-3 days like you can learn how to play Blader or Glavie.
Usually when I play my Warrior/Cleric, it depends on me will I lose, or not (<- I think that for alot of Warrior/Clerics this sentance will be fimiliary)... If I make mistake I'll lose, if not, I win ...
Its ALWAYS like that, ofcourse if we are at same level and gear is somehow balanced.

Too bad it never is, and good that it doesn't make a difference if you have decent +5 gear on your warrior.

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