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Stealing on Venus is easy. Wake up early in the morning, pick a choke-point, and rob all the Turkish trades. If you have Force you can rob a 1 star. If you're a warlock you can rob a 1-star. If you're adept and know the routes well you can track any trader down, catch them, and steal their loot. If it's a large caravan grab a few friends and raid together. I can easily cite myself and say when I had the time to play I jobbed for hours before and after my ticket time, but I won't. I admitted there are exceptions, but traders do not trade more than 1 star, hunters do not hunt thieves anymore, and most thieves can't rob something that only exist at a specific time of the day.

The crossroads was just a comparison. The game may be larger, but if jobbing is still alive then the crossroads should still be active for low levels most of the time. Likewise, the bridges in Europe should be littered with loot and traders coming and going; furthermore, the Hotan trading area should be packed. If jobbing has truly kept up with the times then there should be more of it. I'm sure if someone decided to leave their character at a merchant shop in any town with fraps on they would not see a large variety of traders coming and going.

lul. me and blister just found a 5star pile of loot sitting on penence bridge about 20 min ago. the trader came back for it but he was lvl 3x and stood no chance at recovering it, even with the 7x hunter he called out near the end. my ice archer pwns any euro without cleric sub.

as for the 1 stars, chaser quest + invis ftw.

so i was looking at all my old forum posts from like 2 years ago and stuff and all the people who were saying die hard anti-bot things with a sig of << banned for bot admission or banned for bot usage >> LOL

Well there are player bots and gold bots and even on Venus the problem of the gold bots wasn't solved. What really killed trading and the job system are the gold bots. Players don't trade anymore for gold for buying nice Sox or buy a wolfie or levelling up their guilds. As soon as the gold bots offer their goods they go on a gold selling site and buy everything there. Servers are ruled by one highest level thief or trader guild that takes the fun out of the game by one shooting low level opponents. When I started, jobbing was interactive, you talked to a hunter or thief before killing him, sometimes hunters started a PVP with a thief and the winner got the loot, players told you what you did wrong, ressed you on spot, didn't attack you if they noticed that you were low level, didn't kill your wolf for the fun of killing. It's all so grim and so serious now and it's not only Turks behaving like that.

So as long as JM isn't killing the gold selling bots the job system will be messed up and one of the nicest aspects of the game will be lost. It's up to JM to fix it and avoid that the game is slowly dying.

If you found a way to get rid of the gold bots on Venus, just let me know, but it's not different from any other server.

further more plvling killed it, why go jobbing when you can make 1 m an hour easily at ongs or 10 m an hour in caves, then there is the whole alias bullshit, you can't even see if some one is a mate or not

You're in part right about the pwlvling foudre, but all those players asking taxi plzzz, level up plzzz are paying with gold from gold selling companies. In my opinion a legit player organising a paying taxi is a bot helper. A taxi is normally item distribution and everything goes to the driver, a legit player can't afford the gold for a constant level up if his guild isn't organising free levelling. And high levels taking the time to help out lower levels are rare these days, at least on Eos. Too much players focus only on the fast levelling and forget to have some fun in game and helping other fellow guild legits to gain xp.

For not seeing the names it's a lame excuse. Most players prefer the old way of jobbing and you could easily switch from thief to hunter to trader in 5 minutes and kill players that were in your party 30 secs before. It's the most fun in jobbing for me, it's trying to sneak your way to a town, trying to be more clever than your opponents. That was the challenge. But now you see thieves/hunters camping at the gates, bridges and docks, in stealth and slave watchers ready and that's all. If you're not highest level on your server you're pwned. So why should I try to have fun with trading if I end up killed by spot camping thieves? All trades sooner or later go through a dock or bridge.

The only way to revive the game is to suppress the gold bots, and in my opinion only JM is able to do it. But I doubt they will do it. I guess that most money comes from starting players buying some silk and leaving the game before they are level 40. Apparently they dropped a sosun blade 76 on Eos today (less than one month after opening the server, but full bot parties running 24/7 on snipers and gens now), made it +5 and it was sold for 2 billions. Gold buying is the keyword for owning a server now.

I'm sorry if some members feel perhaps hurt by these harsh comments, but I find this an interesting discussion and perhaps you should leave the Venus harbour to really understand the problems that the game is enduring. Gold bots are the key to legitimity, turn the problem any way you want, you stick on gold buying out of game. If that could be removed the best legits will rule.

And still looking for legits wanting to join Eos, preferably players that are ready to rebuild a character there and not leaving before level 90.

Show me a real reason to be positive. Ask almost anyone here who knows me. I used to always be positive. No seriously. Always looking on the bright side. I gave up hope for SRO and faith in JM and became a cynic so sue me. You can hardly blame me after keeping a positive face under the years of constant shit storm that is joymax.

Not really. I mean not unless things changed massively. Sure you can go to DW south and cape. But I used to rob carravans escorted by capped full sun botters with a lvl 60ish rogue with crappy gear. Funnest thing in all the world but there is just one problem. If I could find one such carravan a week it was a good week. I spent 8 hours one day scouring the routes from don to hotan and hotan to sam. Joined numerous thief parties etc. All we found all day were a few isolated 1* etc. Nothing nada. Dead. And the whole thing about having to get capped before fun if you will forgive me is the biggest crock their is. I mean I understand what you are saying. But it is only that way because of the botters etc. And that only serves to turn me off to it more. It used to be you didn't have to be capped to have fun. And when I got capped fun was still in short supply unless it was PVPing botters at DW south. I miss the game a bit and would like the old days to come back. But I am not gonna hold my breath.

when the world fcks with you, u can run away, or you can fight back. maybe a video game is not worth fighting back for you, but i hope you dont take the same attitude into RL, cuz ull get ur ass handed to you if you do.

i got banned. i quit. i went and played granado espada. i felt sorry for myself. then i got over it. life is too short to waste hoping that someone will fix the problems for you. its suprising how much you can accomplish when fighting for a good cause. people natraly flock to your side and you gain a purpose that keeps your active and happy.

You an me both. We could go back and slaughter the current managments parrents so they were never born then set up a future trust to guide and mold those we choose at birth to replace the old management. Creating the ultimate uber admins. Oh wait you were wanting to just go back to 2005-2006 and play eh?

I played GE for a while as well. But honestly I fought for years. In the end though I was not having fun and that is what killed it for me. Not that I could not fight. But what was I fighting for? Friends are friends regardless of whether you play or not. To me it got down to fighting to log in to a bot infested server. Then go out and try to train in a bot/turk infested area. Followed finally by trying to job only to find that most times you were the only one jobbing. At the time most legits had left to regroup on venus so it was really bad. Now I could restart on venus. But to me as soon as the old guard relaxes venus will be as much bot as the other servers and that is not something I have the energy to fight for anymore.

Moved on to greener pastures without so many problems and more possibilities
The mushroom is one of many projects that I am working on. (Completed stuff is listed at http://shop.onrez.com/Pie_Zipper) There is not much in SecondLife that I don't do. The item itself is shaped by a sculpted texture I made from scratch. the colors etc are from the texture also made by me. It is scripted to support many different sitting positions etc also done by me. And I just started uploading original animations last night. I have also done some clothing etc. If I wanna go MMORPG there are zones for that etc and little to no bots that are a problem. It is truly a world that is what you make of it. But I will admit this. I am nostalgic enough that I am planning on recreating at least my 8D blader gear here on SL so I may be hitting people up for some good garment shots and sword shield shots to help my modeling for it. I dunno how far I will script the whole thing. Would be fun to replicate all the attack animations and fx which is not that hard. Just time consuming.

u do 3d modeling?

I do some 3d modeling, coding, graphic design, and animation. Though mostly in relation to sl at the moment. In addition to DJing and architecture. At one time I thought about scripting gear and transports then see about setting up trade posts on the mainland or something. I think it would be a hoot. But that is also a bit daunting of a task for a single person to take on in their free time an have time for anything else.

The legit community wont die, and unfortunately the botters won't die either. Anyways, on Venus I also thought maybe they would take over after the 90 cap but they didn't. We have more and more legits on venus, the community is just growing stronger. And the botters are just leaving. The gold bots and passive bots stay, making the server crowded, but those botters that wanted to war us, the "famous" like illusionist (who sold his account) are just leaving to servers like gaia or eos.

As you can see in these forums, there's legits in all the servers, or almost. People do try to fight back.



Well said, really. And you got the situation on Venus to prove that.



...This coming from someone who plays Eos. The server was dead before it even opened, lol. no wonder you can't know what "active server" means.


I think you didn't search enough. Look again. Explore the community. I doubt you got to lvl 80 without making friends or joining a guild, or even trying a party.

Why do people insist in believing Venus is the same as all other servers... it isn't. When we say "venus is a good server" we mean it, we don't mean all you legits out there suck cause you don't play venus.


Anyways, point of my post: legits wont die tomorrow, and specially not on Venus.

@guthix I think you missed the actual message in that post. I watched over BHA xian as union leader for two months in Suicidegrl's stead. I know many who went to found BHA venus rather well. Nightbloom and even fly to an extent know me even if we are not buddy buddy all the time. With only a little talk i have very little doubt that i would find my way into the ranks of one or the other if i was serious about coming back. The whole point was that i wanted to take the pulse of the servers life blood new players. If I went and made a big deal I would never understan what it is really like for those totally new starting out. And while it was better than many other servers I was not all that encouraged. Couple that with the fact that botting for gold is a waste of time if no one is using it. The bots are still there. You have to remember that in the beginning most everyone was antibot. and it did not change over night. Venus may take longer to fall but it will.

TBH even xian 60 cap when no one botted would of sucked if i was not playing with friends.

That is when we met... OMG if nightbloom never met Fly??? *horror*

I'd move in and make a move lol jk

i told the last person that tried to make a move that "i would cut off his balls and feed them to him".

never saw that guy again

im enjoying my sro experience again thus far.

Well you might have your own opinon on venus... just what I think is, on other servers when you're legit you grind the whole day and everyone else is botting, you don't talk to anyone, you don't have friends, you feel lonely like hell. On venus that doesn't happen, or maybe only at the starting lvls. Anytime I log in I can find company and/or friends to party with, people to talk with, etc. something I just can't find in any other server. That's my opinion about it.

Now about venus will fall... maybe, unless the botters fall first. That's our goal. Make the bots fall before us, win the war. I've witnessed what avalon can do to botters and imo we're not close from going down. People like Fly, nightbloom, SuicideGirl... all the leaders of the strongest guilds will end quitting the game one day, it's natural. But as long as there's competent people to replace them and go on their war against bots, then I think we'll still be owning venus for the next few years.

But hey, that's my opinion

Well I did poke my head in last night since I am having a bit of a hard time with the place I was going. My partner there is gone for the forseeable future and will in fact be alone and homeless on the street this time tomorrow. I miss her a ton and everything I see there atm reminds me of her. I know for a fact I am not gonna stay on SRO though but const was rather bot free and did have a few people in it still. The mindless grind did help a bit last night and perhaps I might log in tonight at as well. Though I need to finish a few more products and get ready to DJ friday. LOL I even have 20 silk. Might try and start some global drama. What I saw last night was just to quiet. XD like a ghost town. Oh and there were 0 trades etc. I saw no one jobbed.

i think i still play not sure though...

i dout i ever hit lvl 90 i been here since like 70 cap and the highest i have is 52 i goof around way to much

2.5+ years and just got lvl 78.

It´s wayne as long as u´re having fun. It´s a game, and games are supposed to be fun, not to get capped and think u can own everyone. And as long as we legits are keeping to remember this, we won´t die.



Don´t know if someone said this before, but afaik we´re at least 4 legit unions, maybe 5-6, don´t know about Doom_Legion and Crazy_Foos.

which ones r da 4 100% legits?


(good to know there r more, its time to meet eachother and grow together)

Dutch_Honour
Ganjafarmers (u i believe)
GER_DreamZ (where i´m in)
Black_Devils (they accidently invited a botting guild to their union, i hope for their leader to come in to kick them, he got problems with the patch =/ )

nice, we're more than i thought. dont think crazy_foos are still legit.

its time to stay together and go for fw/ trades/ partying...

Especially this.
Well we´re planning to fuse our union with Dutch_Honour, but our leaders internet keeps crashing, he kant talk to Euraido =/