This is THE BEST PvE display i have ever seen.. omg

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

wow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89DEaOf8I00

Lowis · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 570 **Location:** Trolling

That was pretty interesting he didn't even have to turn around to check the mob was already dead. Awesome

Goobronicus · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1011 **Location:**

IMO he/she wasted their time with that party gen lol, almost died and they probably could have killed maybe 20 or so more shamans in that time?

Love the locks, got a lvl 60 myself just don't feel like grinding it atm :/

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Lowis wrote:

That was pretty interesting he didn't even have to turn around to check the mob was already dead. Awesome

the point is, he does all this in no time.. ALL the DOTs have zero casting time.. ALL instant spells, so he practically takes time only to run. this is just WAY faster than any wizard could dream to grind, and its not half as risky as a life controlling wizard. he can even kill 2 giant mobs at a time, while any wizard usually fails to kill a single giant mob, even with a cleric sub.

Goobronicus · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1011 **Location:**

ahmedsabry wrote:

the point is, he does all this in no time.. ALL the DOTs have zero casting time.. ALL instant spells, so he practically takes time only to run. this is just WAY faster than any wizard could dream to grind, and its not half as risky as a life controlling wizard. he can even kill 2 giant mobs at a time, while any wizard usually fails to kill a single giant mob, even with a cleric sub.

So true, <3 Vampire Touch and Kiss. Although, did you notice they didn't even use them very often? I only saw it a few times, with the majority of it being 1 DOT and occasionally 2; using the vampire skills only when needing additional hp that their pots couldn't give.

Sigh...I want to go grind my lock nao ;( fack mather.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

lol.. ofcourse he wont have to use the vampire line. he barely gets hit :love:

i love the speed he regenerates his zerk too :roll:

Erins0 · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 249 **Location:**

Thats how u play a Affliction warlock on WoW, basicaly curse all mobs around you and run around and heal your self and by the time the mobs get near you they die. But ye iv never seen warlocks on sro play like that be4 very interesting.

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:28 am

Spawn rate wasn't good enough for him to be constantly killing. To much time wasted running around =/

A high level mob with a spawn rate of ongs.. thats a video I'd like to see.

Ramidux · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 376

That was impressive. Very unique way of soloing. Never seen it that way before..

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

It looks like normal soloing for my standards at least. Just treat silkroad like other mmos where you group up mobs aoe ect...DoT classes just dot and move on idk what's so fascinating about it, common sense

SRO has made players lazy. On my noob bowmen just spam autumn wind, butterfly, then explosion series when you have 3-7 mobs. It's more interesting then killing 1 mob at a time & keeps you more active/alert.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:55 pm

look for XxLustxX 's vid somewhere, vs. nachals. Its intense.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

I wonder how a full warlock party would be :twisted:

Swindler · **Posted:** Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:18 pm

that was awesome

VeniVidiVici · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 920 **Location:** OTL

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

I wonder how a full warlock party would be :twisted:

Instant zerk?

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Thats not a good way to grind as a warlock in my opinion. Spamming DoTs and letting them kill the mob all the time kills your rod's durability. Nuking would speed up the job saving durability and allowing you to get zerk faster. He has 10k+ hp and good damage. I don't see why he is wasting time with those weak mobs.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

I wonder how a full warlock party would be :twisted:

That would be sick. But once two of the same DoTs are on one mob, they can't be added, even by a different Warlock. So you'll have most of them nuking, rather than doing DoTs.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

i figured you're right

but the mobs won't be able to attack with constant sleep-trap-stuns

and with the debuffing,shadow armour and bless spell(if warlock/cleric) Pt giants wouldn't stand a chance

StacE · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 502 **Location:**

tedtwilliger wrote:

Spawn rate wasn't good enough for him to be constantly killing. To much time wasted running around =/

A high level mob with a spawn rate of ongs.. thats a video I'd like to see.

Disagree.

He is not instantly killing them so ofcourse the spawns cannot be fast enough for him. For them to be fast enough like you're suggesting the mob would have to respawn before it has died... That makes sense right?

He still has to wait for the DoT's to do a few ticks. He had that entire area to himself practically, im sure there was plenty of mobs for him to kill.

StacE · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 502 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

i figured you're right

but the mobs won't be able to attack with constant sleep-trap-stuns

and with the debuffing,shadow armour and bless spell(if warlock/cleric) Pt giants wouldn't stand a chance

The idea of a full warlock party isn't that beneficial. If you did what the Video'd warlock is doing, then sure... But what you're saying is debuffing/sleep/trap etc. 1 warlock can do that almost as fast and to the same extent as 1 warlock. So 8 warlocks would be worser at killing a PT Giant than a team of mixed characters BY FAR.

And there is no spawn in SRO that would suit an 8-man Warlock party doing what he did. The warlocks would recquire a HUGE distance to DoT that many mobs. Times what was seen above by 8 and they'd probably be stretching the boundaries of shared EXP in parties.

Know for a fact that a group of zerked Euro's with mixed classes can finish off a PT Giant in less than 30seconds (Of the same level). 8 warlocks of equal level etc could not.

_Creep_ · **Posted:** Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:06 pm

Now thats something, really nice grinding. He knows what he doing.

StacE · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 502 **Location:**

What he did is nothing special.

Put 1 DoT on a mob then ran off knowing it would die... Wow?? Obviously his gear and skills are just very strong, nothing he did is particularly amazing.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:18 pm

faster than 30 sec =.=

we had a nearly full 90 pt, 2 90 tanks, 90 and 88 wiz, 90 warlock, 2 bards (both battle bards (guardia and zanthra)) all full farmed. PTGiant went down in 2 zerkbubbles i believe.

Zero_Doom · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 1572 **Location:**

That is a waste of time. That guy is 76+ and grinding solo on shaman's. If he were partied, in a chasers party, he could be making much much more exp per minute, then he was in the video. As far as soloing a warlock, its easy, just like Corrupt said, anyone who thinks this is that spectacular has never ventured into other games.

Astra · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 535 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

Thats not a good way to grind as a warlock in my opinion. Spamming DoTs and letting them kill the mob all the time kills your rod's durability.

Well, actually DoTs are meant for regular mobs so you can focus on giants with all you got.
With 400 durability on the rod, a grind session (solo) would last around 2-3 hours of hardcore DoTing. I can even grind for 2-3 hours in 8men pt and zerking every minute with that durability.

Da_Realest wrote:

Nuking would speed up the job saving durability and allowing you to get zerk faster. He has 10k+ hp and good damage. I don't see why he is wasting time with those weak mobs.

Nuking gives you less zerk bubbles than DoTing.
I only need 5-6 Chasers to get a full zerk, and I don't nuke them, only one dot per mob is enough.

Full lock party isnt really a good option. We tried this with 2 locks in the party, and I didn't see any difference.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Astra wrote:

Well, actually DoTs are meant for regular mobs so you can focus on giants with all you got.
With 400 durability on the rod, a grind session (solo) would last around 2-3 hours of hardcore DoTing. I can even grind for 2-3 hours in 8men pt and zerking every minute with that durability.

I used DoT on everything when I played. My Warlock rod had about 151 durability and I managed to get about 90mins to 2 hours from it.

Astra wrote:

Nuking gives you less zerk bubbles than DoTing.
I only need 5-6 Chasers to get a full zerk, and I don't nuke them, only one dot per mob is enough.

It doesn't matter. You can only get zerk bubbles as fast as the mobs die. DoT continues to tick until the body of the mob disappears so I still got zerk extremely fast. I don't know how long it takes you to kill 5-6 chasers but I was literally getting zerk under 10 seconds(15 seconds at the most, 1 second being the least) and conserving durability, much better than that guy in the video. I wouldn't waste time grinding mobs that I could kill in one DoT unless I had no other choice. Waste of GT.

Its also easy for another person/bot to come and ks you since most players grind mobs they can one shot. If I saw a Warlock grinding like that in an area I'm in, I wouldn't hesitate to ks.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

StacE wrote:

What he did is nothing special.

Put 1 DoT on a mob then ran off knowing it would die... Wow?? Obviously his gear and skills are just very strong, nothing he did is particularly amazing.

the guy actualy showed his gear at the end of the video if u've watched that :roll:

some gay gear...
and u would really want to see how most locks grind. they're like wizards with a shield. just spamming "death flower"s.

Da_Realest wrote:

Thats not a good way to grind as a warlock in my opinion. Spamming DoTs and letting them kill the mob all the time kills your rod's durability. Nuking would speed up the job saving durability and allowing you to get zerk faster. He has 10k+ hp and good damage. I don't see why he is wasting time with those weak mobs.

1-they durability is wasted for KILLING MOBS and getting EXP for god's sake.. not a wast if u ask me
2-u are NOT a wizard.. u are NOT meant to nuke
3-nuking has a casting time unlike dots, and would never 1 hit the mob.. while the DOT on the contrary kills the mob without having u standing beside them until they're dead. just puts it and leaves the mob die in peace.
4-each and every DOT hit counts as a nuke for the zerk bar filling. what actually make locks fill thier zerk in such crazy time is the usage of dots and nothing else..
5-he has 10k hp cuz he is hybrid not because his lvl is far higher than them. AND the guy actually has another video grinding at generals with the same efficiency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXR73Y8cWM

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

ahmedsabry wrote:

1-they durability is wasted for KILLING MOBS and getting EXP for god's sake.. not a wast if u ask me
2-u are NOT a wizard.. u are NOT meant to nuke
3-nuking has a casting time unlike dots, and would never 1 hit the mob.. while the DOT on the contrary kills the mob without having u standing beside them until they're dead. just puts it and leaves the mob die in peace.
4-each and every DOT hit counts as a nuke for the zerk bar filling. what actually make locks fill thier zerk in such crazy time is the usage of dots and nothing else..
5-he has 10k hp cuz he is hybrid not because his lvl is far higher than them. AND the guy actually has another video grinding at generals with the same efficiency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXR73Y8cWM

1. Its a waste because you could be getting much better exp elsewhere and saving duarability, allowing you to grind longer.
2. You don't have to be a Wizard to nuke. They gave you nukes for a reason. I use all my skills.
3. Your point? Its too easy for someone to just come and ks. Also, 2 DoT + one nuke is about the same cast time as a Chinese fire nuke and most Wizard nukes so in comparsion, you are sort of killing them in one nuke.
4. If that was true, Bladers would get zerk faster than anyone because they're skills hit the fastest. It is assumed that the "ticking" of the DoT causes Warlocks to get zerk fast but no one really knows for sure.
5. The videos are not impressive at all. They're average at best. I have personally grinded and seen many others grinding much more efficiently than that guy.

borat2 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:21 pm

The answer to why warlocks gain zerk real fast is the status damage, including disease which doesn't even do any damage at all combined with hits/per minute.

Here you can watch Da_Realest grind, compare that to the movie you posted
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Yes he has cleric sub that does change grinding style.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

ahmedsabry wrote:

1-they durability is wasted for KILLING MOBS and getting EXP for god's sake.. not a wast if u ask me
2-u are NOT a wizard.. u are NOT meant to nuke
3-nuking has a casting time unlike dots, and would never 1 hit the mob.. while the DOT on the contrary kills the mob without having u standing beside them until they're dead. just puts it and leaves the mob die in peace.
4-each and every DOT hit counts as a nuke for the zerk bar filling. what actually make locks fill thier zerk in such crazy time is the usage of dots and nothing else..
5-he has 10k hp cuz he is hybrid not because his lvl is far higher than them. AND the guy actually has another video grinding at generals with the same efficiency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXR73Y8cWM

1. Its a waste because you could be getting much better exp elsewhere and saving duarability, allowing you to grind longer.
2. You don't have to be a Wizard to nuke. They gave you nukes for a reason. I use all my skills.
3. Your point? Its too easy for someone to just come and ks. Also, 2 DoT + one nuke is about the same cast time as a Chinese fire nuke and most Wizard nukes so in comparsion, you are sort of killing them in one nuke.
4. If that was true, Bladers would get zerk faster than anyone because they're skills hit the fastest. It is assumed that the "ticking" of the DoT causes Warlocks to get zerk fast but no one really knows for sure.
5. The videos are not impressive at all. They're average at best. I have personally grinded and seen many others grinding much more efficiently than that guy.

1-u grind for a longer time and get the same exp in the end.. ie: ur grinding slower.
2-lock nukes are pathetic u know.. baby nukes. even the weakest warrior skill (being a STR) would outdamage them. what really sets a lock apar from anyne else is DOTs. again, ur not a nuker.. u r not meant to be. ur nukes are just supportive.
3-ksing is another story. i am talking about the best way to grind in normal conditions. even if they ks.. look how much mobs u r attacking at a time. how much will they ks? one? two? nothing...
still u obviously didnt get my point.. u DO NOT HAVE TO nuke. DOTs just do the job if u let them. now compare the time u need to DOT and the time u need to nuke.. no comparision. if a wizard needs 2 seconds or so to kill a mob, a lock would need NO TIME AT ALL. u just have to run and let the mob die. the time it takes the DOT to get the mob killed doesnt mean anything to u because you wouldnt even be there. i hope u got it this time...
4-as u said.. noone knows for sure. so plz stop saying nukes make it fill faster. anyway, if u dont beleive this, try grinding with a lock using only nukes, and using only dots separatly. record zerk filling time in each case.. simple.
5-everyone knows ur a genius, thanks.

strangelove · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 1255 **Location:** no

I think that's pretty much how I grind but I do 2 DoTs per mob instead of 1. (IMO only 1 DoT is way too slow) I don't think my rod's durability has ever been an issue ever since JM raised it. I don't think I've had major problems with people KSing me. If they do try, I just pull out my harp and show em what KSing is all about.

But while using Warlock nukes will get a kill faster, I think using DoTs would cover a much larger area. Mobs are gonna die anyway. I only use my nukes and debuffs versus party mobs or giants.

Most Warlocks in other games grind using the same technique. It's called 'kiting' if I'm not mistaken.

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