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ok so i say to you "wtf is going on stop pking us douchebag" you blah blah confed blah blah. i decide to check it out propose it to my friends and we ask some people we met who pt with us and they bot so we decide against. BUT we are still 100% legit...

it these rules were for a true triple A mmorpg like WoW i'd understand, but seeing the current state of silkroad online i'd say that Venus but mostly Avalon and their whitelist guilds are comprised by true lifeless bunch of people who take this worthless game way too seriously


but i guess that comes naturally for a chick with no job nor real income and lives of a moderate inheritage and plays SRO 24/7

Put people in a position of power, they are bound to abuse it.

I'm really glad that I don't play on Venus. This "confederation" stuff makes me giggle. Sounds like a bunch of people who take the game WAY too seriously.


"RULE 12839484686: You are not allowed to buy pots in the same shop as a botter! If you do, we will ban you from the guild and call you a botter every single day because this is how we roll on Venus!!"


Seriously. The rules are a little too extreme. But this one is just plain awful:


So anyone not in your little group is considered a botter? That is just sad...

Well, dom, with all due respect i wouldnt use my "authority" to spam offtopic stuff.
And if i would, at least in style.

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werent u the one that supported nightbloom and help her set up some iamlegitgaming.com website and now everyone at sra is mad at u and nightbloom?

Silo the chance that during those 3 days the player will be pked is like 0.001% we do not run around looking for a guildless players just so we can pk them that is just retarded. And for soem reason i left my guild i was guildless for 3 days not a single person pked or said anything to me(no point saying that people know who i am, i am one of the few chinese players on venus and i solo all the time so many of legits have no idea who i am). Also lvl to 40+ on venus guildless and i would like to see how many times you are going to get pked.

I'm reading this topic. If it's another QQ topic there will be a lock and warnings.

Oh, but it certainly gives unfair to legits guildless (who knows why but have respect on their choice), and also unfair to guild who is not in the confederation.
Are you like the polices at the airport that control foreigners's paper who just come to your country or what? They are not obliged to "register" to the whitelist.

Ok, what i wanted to say can be summed up in short words:
"Something is not white is not necessary black"

How much you understand it? 0%?

Thxbye, i stopped for today.

what about this.
i play on my main server and my best buddy who botted played venus and ff a 90 there. he says **** this avalon gayshit and quits gives me all his accounts and i decide well venus is a cool place lots of people who play the same as me. but damn i dont wanna leave my 90 ff. so you guys see me on the bot char HANDTRAINING it plvling my nub. am i bot? will i be shunned?

@Stephanus

Too bad English is not my native language !

P.S I bet you still spell Glavie ("Glaive") in your globals ! lol

I think you're the exception, not the rule Cruor.


If you have bots in your guild, you're guild isn't legit and can't be in the Confed. It. Is. Not. Hard. To. Understand.


WoW actually has a working GameGuard (though it's Warden which is basically a pitbull compared to GG's poodle) so there's no need for these sorta things.

@ necrobat hes not in my guild hes just a friend.

I helped nightbloom, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with her. I did what I did because I felt THC's actions were wrong, and also because I feel things like the emblem bank and wiki are better off in the hands of someone who actually plays the game.

Alright I read the first page. Honestly, you bring up all these issues you have with the rules yet you don't actually play on Venus. Now, obviously you seem to believe Avalon runs the confederacy. I don't know what Fantasy Venus world you live in, but Avalon does not run the confederacy; their primary leaders may own the federation, but they have no control over other guilds. These are rules that we as legits, on Venus, collectively agree with. I'll tackle the so called issues you raise one by one.

Edit* lawl, I accidentally locked it before reviewing the thread.


We recognize the guilds by Union label and hearsay. It isn't as difficult as it may appear to be; for instance. Say I see CosaNotra, BHA, Avalon, Midnight, Ubp, etc. Now, obviously remembering individual names is an absurdity that most won't bother partaking in. What most do, and I know this from experience unlike you, is remember the Union emblem.


No, you're not under anyone's control. All guilds have rules; the confederation is merely an extension of rules us Venus legits have agreed upon. Like a guild: If you don't like the guild you're in, you don't like their rules, and you don't like their leadership you have one of two choices: Quit the guild or deal with it. Now replace guild with confederation. If you want to play with legits and botters I'm sure there are plenty of psuedo-legit guilds out there that are more than willing to accept you.

In the first post, i never mentioned about Avalon, I just point out where is wrong with the rule. Don't be mislead by the noobs.

This:

Wow, just wow..

My points on this thread.

1. Confederation consists of all legit guilds and union IN VENUS who agreed to follow the set rules made by all. Every rules were discussed before it was made official.

2. Confederation is not controlled by Fly and NB. All the decision will be decide by the representative from all unions under the Confederation. Fly only have 1 vote.

3. Confederation is open to any legits / legit guilds and union IN VENUS. Nobody is forced to join. If you dont want to join, meaning u dont want to play by the Confederation rules. It's up to you. The rules are for Confederation member's only.

4. One of the objective of the Confederation is to make sure all member's play the game how it was meant to be played. No cheat / hacks.

5. Since SRO is bot infested, making sure the server is clean is not easy. Thus, we set rules to make sure botters wont enjoy their game in Venus. Hence the no pting with bots, pwning bots on every pvp, gangbanging them, spawn camped them, made their characters murder stats and etc.

6. Confederation is like a big union consists of a couple of unions. If you cant see how it works now, then i'm bad at explaining.

7. People might say the rules of the Confederation is harsh. But these rules, the Confederation itself made Venus how it is now. It might be boring for ppl who are used to see 100's of botters pvping at DW / Samarkhand. We dont have that YET because most of the ppl in Venus are legits. Ppl who got things to do in real life. Ppl who dont leave their pc and let bot grind their characters for them. What we do have is pvp at almost every degree. We dont have members of the Confederation going around samarkhand south 1 shotting every low lvl legits. Yes, we do that to botters. Not member's of the confederation.

8. We protect each other. Helping when help is needed. Maybe not 100% of the time, but still we care about others regardless of lvl. U can see in union chat when someone in the Confederation are asking for help because they got bullied by high lvl botters. In less than a minute, Samarkhand south will be filled with atleast 1-2 legit parties ready to defend them. Same goes for trading / hunting and even thieving.

9. Parties matters are discussed in the Confederation. Problems are shared among us. Solutions are suggested on every problems. Every weak points is pointed out and discussed to solve the matters in hand. It is a community after all.

I'll share more points about the Confederation later for ppl who care to know. Who's been wondering on how it works / why and so on.

The key points is, Fly and NB is just part of the Confederation. They dont control the outcome of every votes. Of course he/she can change the vote count due to them having admin power over the forum / vBulletin. But every representatives from all the union in the Confederation discussed their points and telling their vote to all. Yes, we can read what is discussed by them and their vote. So, it is a transparency discussion / decision.

To others who hate the Confederation for what it is, just ask yourself these questions. Am i playing on Venus? Did they forced me to join them? Does it matter to me what rules they set since i'm not one of the members? If yes, why should i care so much? Am i enjoying the server where there's actually a place to grind? When was the last time i say hi and there's actually real ppl replying? What did they do that makes me hate them so much?

I'm getting pretty sick of u guys from other servers mocking us who actually do something to fight botters. I personally dont care if you love playing with botters / cheaters. But u dont need to hate us for what we believed. Everyone from the Confederation have a fresh start. What happened on other servers doesnt matter. We accept anyone for what they are in Venus. We came to Venus to have fun, to change something for the first time. If you dont like it, it is up to you. But stop wasting ur time trying to make us look bad because we're the good guys here.

I hope u guys have fun these couple of days. You are trying too hard to be honest.

Thanks.

p/s : To Kari a.k.a Avalonian or whatever account he is in. Seriously dude, stop trying to change my views on this matter. Nobody mistreated me. The word loyal do mean something to me though.

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1. WHY is everyone b1tching about this? This only affects you if you play on VENUS, any other servers..please GTFO.

2. Yes the rules of the Confederation may seem a bit harsh BUT everyone within the legit unions have no problem abiding by them. We know that they are necessary to maintain more order within the server.

3. If you are over 40+ and not in the confederation, you will NOT be pked for no reason lol. You just can't party with the confederation players..why? because NO ONE knows how you got those 40 lvls. you could've farmed in BOT plvls, and even LVLED in bot plvls. IF so, do you think you deserve to be in a LEGIT confederation? i think not.

4. Also, even if you are 40+..why NOT join the confederation? As Fly pointed out only about 1/4 of the total members are from Avalon. We have 3 other great unions you can join (BHA, Blade, Fable).

Ask this question yourself, are u playing on a botted character? Even if you handgrind to plvl ur so called legit char, u still using a botted char. If it is not a botted char, u wouldnt need to ask whether it is right or wrong.

um yes. if you are using a BOTTED char to help pfarm/plvl your character...how does that sound legit to you???

It's the same principle as having any other botter plvling you ..even with handgrinding or not.

One main reason why we really really hate bot plvls or plvls in general is mainly because those plvled chars sux in party play.

lol 7 pages in less than a day

in my opinion, i don't like the rules. I play the game to escape a bit of IRL, not to be controlled by virtual authorities in-game.

actually the solution is simple

if u dont like the rule in venus dont play there. period.

i'm not talking about the goal of the confederation, but its rules.

Here in respond of this rule:

I tell you (just a supposition): I wear 6D gear, guildless/not in the confederation guild.

So what are you going to call me then? And what would you do with the one pt with me?

You sure you want answers? It is the same reason christians dislike the phelps family and the westburrough baptist church near here in kansas. it is the same reason most mainstream muslims denounce the fundamentalist extremist. It is not about the fact that there are shared ideals. It is the fact that some view it as us and them and that if you are not us you are them. That is all. Frankly I got no issues with fly and NB at this point. Though I am not affraid to side with silo on this point. It may be confederation rules etc. But who is seen as the flagship or standard bearers for the confederation. Who maintains their forums etc. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. And bloom I know you never signed up etc to be an icon but hehe that is not something the icon gets to choose. Ya just gotta hang in there and keep doing what you are doing. Only thing I would advise is to work to soften the edges.

simple. no one is allowed to party with you. WHY? because we don't know whether you are a legit or have had some bot plvl help in the past.

if someone does pt with you, they will be WARNED (or banned). or if they have done some other mistakes, possibly banned.

I would like to ask you this, does it matter to you? Do you have a character wearing a 6th degree gears and at lvl 40+ IN VENUS? That rule is not for all, it is for the members of the Confederation. Which part of that u dont understand? Oh my God.

Man. This thread is pointless. The topic starter said no flames now look at it. She/he just wanted to know the rules exist. Now all these haters or w/e u guys are fliping out. Venus dont equal Avalon nor does it equal Fly or NB. It equal ppl that wanted a place where they werent around a whole bunch of ppl that are always afk! I know when I log in and talk to Fable or BlackHand at least 1 person gonna talk to me on Pluto THAT WAS NEVER!!

First of all "legits" don't pk ppl. I ONLY PK GOLD BOTS NOT PLAYERS. Just cuz im part of their "legit" community, doesn't make me as strict as them. Hell i debate all the time with the rules. Like when they wasn't trying to let my guildmate Death be whitelisted. I flipped out or when they called SuicideGirl a "BS." Fcking bullshit to the fullest. The point I'm making is i know it seem like a dictator land and the rules can be a bit tight. I play the same o way so i dont think of them as rules. Hell its not like i cant talk to the player bots cuz I do all the time. I pvp we talk blah blah.

One thing ppl fail to realize is that rules keep ppl in line. You wonder y the other servers are fcked up itys because of the non rules.

Making such a pointless thread then u say no flames then u throw them. WHY THE HELL THIS ISNT LOCKED YETxD

So it is not ok for them but ok for you to do. Hmmmm good to know