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 Post subject: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:34 pm 
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Sooo I can beat anyone my lvl in pvp with a consistant ratio of 5:1 or higher cept warlocks. That's just up in the air as 50:50 dep if i get lucky or not. Any way to pvp them without relying on luck? I use puri pills, but the delay is too long. Specially when they cast 7 debuffs on you and only 1 goes away. Sooo Any tips? I tried ice and fire wall, but i keep getting stunned still >_>

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:39 pm 
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Spam the pill after u got sleep and keep pressing b/c he will cast more debuffs.
Need to pill sleep right away so ur cooldown is almost the same as his sleep

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:42 pm 
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options:

1. quit your chinese and start a euro char with cleric sub
2. ask a cleric to buff you with holy shit
3. gang on him
4. quit the game

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
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u didnt mention your build/gear, right?
anyway, from what i know its all about timing.
i remember "LightHeart" (warrior/rogue) posted videos of himself destroying a warrior/lock several times with well timed pills. he just w8ed when the lock finished debuffing and switched to warrior for the kill..
LightHeart then uses a pill->shield crush->sprint assault->turn rising-> DD+mortal wounds->GG
if he had just spammed the pill at any time the warlock would have had time to react and would have prolly ended up defeated.
anyway, skilled warrior/locks arent supposed to lose to any chinese build in the first place to be honest. its the ideal "chinese killer" if there was something like that :!:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:52 pm 
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Easy, chinese force, use cure skill, vital spot them.

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
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if you are a euro and you hav cleric sub, his/her warlock is kinda useless

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u didnt mention your build/gear, right?

He is level 74 pure INT in Garment, sword and shield.

Only option to totally avoid them is level a cleric or get a friend cleric to buff you - doesnt stop Bleed though. Unless you wait for sleep to use the pill, and even then its not guarenteed to remove sleep, it removes one at random.(correct me if thats wrong)

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Just stand inside a fire wall, he can't put any statusses on you or kb/kd you with warrior weapons unless he uses his warlock rod to get the fire wall down.


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Spam pill bug ?

gay bug lols i hate it >.<

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you could use ice imbue :S you dont have to go for power on everything... like not nuking, they take too long to get stun/sleep


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Spam pill bug ?


what bug is that? how does it work?

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
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lol how did u know my build lempi?

Yeah, i'm interested in this spam pill bug too. I've had the pill take off 2 status before, but now it just takes off the first one that was cast.

I'm still tweaking with force, it's only lvl 30, but i'm testing to see how effective it is at removing those debuffs.

I don't want outside buffers. I'm speaking in simple 1vs1.

I only have ice imbue lvl 1. And normally i won't have enough time to hit him before i'm stunned and asleep. -_-

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Put pills on let's say .. skillslot 7 .. when you get multiple status effects spamm press your pills. AFAIK you can get them all off in 1 go.

It's a bitch for us warlocks .. but many either can't afford to do it every pvp and let's hope joymax will fix it : )

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Pills are really good, or raise up your ice imbue a little more, I just put up fire wall because the only way he can take it down is with sprint assult, and if he is using warrior skills he is therefore in nuking range, and since he probably cant survive 2-3 consecutive nukes he will have to use skins, and most warriors wont cancel their skins to swap weps. :P
(DoT's dont take fire wall down afaik, but the dull dot can be a massive pain in the arse if he casts it on you.)

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Crumpets wrote:
Put pills on let's say .. skillslot 7 .. when you get multiple status effects spamm press your pills. AFAIK you can get them all off in 1 go.

It's a bitch for us warlocks .. but many either can't afford to do it every pvp and let's hope joymax will fix it : )

taht would be like 100k+ for each time a warlock debuffs u..
i'd just lose the dam pvp :D

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Jus remmeber that you got 2 disease spells, and impotent, division and weaken have 2 seconds cooldown.
Whats the pills time cooldown? 15 seconds?

For me, usin pills or not usin pills are jus the same lol


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Time your pills well. Spam them once the other player switches weapons, then he should be screwed.

And force chinese would help a lot...

Sadly, warlocks are over powered (imo) against chinese, but fail against euros. Or parties with euros.


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keep them constantly frozen. frost nova,kd,frost nova,kd, frost nova with ice imbue. chances are they will run out of pills very fast and as long as you dont get trapped your fine.

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icewall to prevent debuffs
firewall to prevent kd/kb

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips for fighting a Warlock/Warrior???
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Hmm the spam ice with nova seems a bit cheap to me because you're just using up their pills. That and most ppl i know would just run back to safe zone and buy pills and then come back out. I prefer ice wall than since fire wall is cancelled when the sprint and stun -_- which happens alot with me.

Does the pill spam work in the other quick slot? The one you click in order to use. Not the f1-f4.

And when using pill spam, does it just use up all the pills or just 1? I'm only playing sro for the pvp so I don't really care if i use up the rest of my gold.

Yeah, warlocks are often farked against other euro builds, but mainly because alot of other builds have cleric as their subs.

I'm still testing force. Trying to see if the level red will help. From what I can tell, lvl 1 force cure will cure lvl 7 debuffs in 4 uses.

The most overpowered move imo is sleep... at least ice can be pilled off. Sleep is ridiculously long in a pvp....

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:22 am 
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firewall is pretty effective, pop it before the pvp and nuke them while the attempt to break it. Respawn it everytime they attempt to debuff. pill if you get sleeped. switch to shield when they use a powerful attack.

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chinese?? seriously, forget about winning over a warrior/lock even if you cheat and use the pills bug... I can beat most FF capped chinese on my server (I have 85 masteries, unpimped robes set) even tho they cheat... you get a 50-50 chance vs warrior/locks if you're a pure str euro build with cleric sub.. maybe slightly more than 50% chance, depends on how skilled you're both are...


PS: talking from a lvl89's experience :D

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chinese?? seriously, forget about winning over a warrior/lock even if you cheat and use the pills bug... I can beat most FF capped chinese on my server (I have 85 masteries, unpimped robes set) even tho they cheat... you get a 50-50 chance vs warrior/locks if you're a pure str euro build with cleric sub.. maybe slightly more than 50% chance, depends on how skilled you're both are...


PS: talking from a lvl89's experience :D
u beat them cuz u got sun 1h :wink:

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AngloKnight wrote:
chinese?? seriously, forget about winning over a warrior/lock even if you cheat and use the pills bug... I can beat most FF capped chinese on my server (I have 85 masteries, unpimped robes set) even tho they cheat... you get a 50-50 chance vs warrior/locks if you're a pure str euro build with cleric sub.. maybe slightly more than 50% chance, depends on how skilled you're both are...


PS: talking from a lvl89's experience :D
u beat them cuz u got sun 1h :wink:

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Um Fire wall ? ice wall ? why hasn't anybody mentioned those lol

when i go against a Warlock and its his subclass and hes pure i'l use Firewall
if hes Pure int with Warlock as main i'l use Ice wall

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Too bad a successful stun from sprint assault takes walls down.

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[quote=Yoda]Use the force.[/quote]
Use Chinese Force skill cure force, cast it every second, it has a 1 second cool down and get rid of 2 statuses.


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