Stupid Force user

NinjaNihonto · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 88 **Location:**

OTG wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

Force Blader? Meh, I'm light/fire blader and I think it's still better overall. You'll only benefit from force at pvp (and only 1 vs 1 pvp), not to mention you'll seriously lack that grasswalk while grinding. Besides, bladers already have quite a few status effects with their own bicheon skills at this cap, they'll have even more at the 100cap (bleed, fear, stun, KD, dull(?) what else..) so yea.

As for the grouping you're talking about... it's natural that some people just group all the time to kill 1 player. That has always been there, just move away from those if you want to 1 vs 1.

light/fire blader sucks really. I used to be this build, light sucks. Only reason I was force was to put Division/Impotent faster. If they pill it off I can put it with my chains. I quit the game now so I don't play. But people with 84-88+5 sets with +5/7 weapons couldn't kill me.

Light isn't that bad, it gives you extra damage and you get luckier with the damage you tank cause of parry ratio... but yea, if you read the previous page, I did end saying Force Blader would be better overall.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

NinjaNihonto wrote:

OTG wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

Force Blader? Meh, I'm light/fire blader and I think it's still better overall. You'll only benefit from force at pvp (and only 1 vs 1 pvp), not to mention you'll seriously lack that grasswalk while grinding. Besides, bladers already have quite a few status effects with their own bicheon skills at this cap, they'll have even more at the 100cap (bleed, fear, stun, KD, dull(?) what else..) so yea.

As for the grouping you're talking about... it's natural that some people just group all the time to kill 1 player. That has always been there, just move away from those if you want to 1 vs 1.

light/fire blader sucks really. I used to be this build, light sucks. Only reason I was force was to put Division/Impotent faster. If they pill it off I can put it with my chains. I quit the game now so I don't play. But people with 84-88+5 sets with +5/7 weapons couldn't kill me.

Light isn't that bad, it gives you extra damage and you get luckier with the damage you tank cause of parry ratio... but yea, if you read the previous page, I did end saying Force Blader would be better overall.

Yeah just because with Force you can end the fight faster. The longer you take the worst it can be against certain builds.

NinjaNihonto · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 88 **Location:**

OTG wrote:

Yeah just because with Force you can end the fight faster. The longer you take the worst it can be against certain builds.

Especially against other str bladers... in most cases it never ends until a few other come in and mess the fight up. Well, force blader vs force blader would also be tough.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

NinjaNihonto wrote:

OTG wrote:

Yeah just because with Force you can end the fight faster. The longer you take the worst it can be against certain builds.

Especially against other str bladers... in most cases it never ends until a few other come in and mess the fight up. Well, force blader vs force blader would also be tough.

I usually don't even bother, but against other bladers. I can drop them because I put Bleed + Division really fast and with two crits in I win.

Ash · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 585 **Location:** Earth

Woohoo wrote:

So I haven't been playing for over 6 months now. Just got back in the game 3 weeks ago. I cant believe what I see and experience in PVP now. Everybody going force, warlock, etc as subclass.

Basically nobody can kill without putting stats on people. I see force bower, force glavie, and the most annoying of all is the FORCE BLADER. Man, basically I have to use pills to stay alive and pvping these people are wasting my gold. Another thing is, there always seem to be people fighting in group now. They like gangsters, you got the attacker, the buffer, and the one that likes to jump in and help. lol

What happen to this game? It was fun and all when people can kill without using stats. Now the bad effects is needed and require to even kill somebody. Annoying Force user who like to put shield and shoot force at you all day, switch to their regular weapon, attack, rinse and repeat. Dude, you cant even kill me when I use pills, so there's no point.

Let me get this right .
You are mad at players who use in game skills to win in pvp !?

BalkanFanaticS · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

NinjaNihonto wrote:

I'd still go for 90 bich 90 light 90 fire 30 cold cause overall it's just better. You get extra parry ratio and attack ratio + extra mag attack power.even if you're not as good in pvp (but not much worse either, bladers are naturally good at pvp) you'll find it much easier to grind.

lol that just sucks

lighning 90 for an str ... lol

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

BalkanFanaticS wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

I'd still go for 90 bich 90 light 90 fire 30 cold cause overall it's just better. You get extra parry ratio and attack ratio + extra mag attack power.even if you're not as good in pvp (but not much worse either, bladers are naturally good at pvp) you'll find it much easier to grind.

lol that just sucks

lighning 90 for an str ... lol

+1

cold will help tank way more damage

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:22 pm

BalkanFanaticS wrote:

NinjaNihonto wrote:

I'd still go for 90 bich 90 light 90 fire 30 cold cause overall it's just better. You get extra parry ratio and attack ratio + extra mag attack power.even if you're not as good in pvp (but not much worse either, bladers are naturally good at pvp) you'll find it much easier to grind.

lol that just sucks

lighning 90 for an str ... lol

I don't recall getting ar from lit either O_o

wootpops · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:27 pm

Qosta420 wrote:

Goseki wrote:

It's true. Ppl realize how much easier and faster it is to kill someone. even with sun with force and debuffs. About the gang-bang thing... that's been happening for a LONGGGG time now.

I actualy know very few people who have force class along with a sun weapon. thats way overkill. they usualy will trade force for ice for the extra phys defense because you already cause insaine damage with a plused and pimped weapon.

Bladeskillz was at 80 cap :p

noobert mclagg · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:51 am

Force is over rated for blader best build imo is 90bich/90fire/68ice/52light. U get to use Power guard and 1st lvl of grasswalk speed which makes u pretty much indestructible and Defense>speed.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Woohoo wrote:

there always seem to be people fighting in group now. They like gangsters, you got the attacker, the buffer, and the one that likes to jump in and help. lol

Venus........
all the time like that

Legits are gangsters
....
bot appear
....
all attack
....
bot says : can i 1 v 1 u?
....
Yes

....
bot ( out of safe zone ) all attack :O
...............................................
There is no more 1 v 1 in venus

Most of it is Group fights

\\\\Dont flame me /////

borat2 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:25 am

Strwarrior wrote:

Woohoo wrote:

there always seem to be people fighting in group now. They like gangsters, you got the attacker, the buffer, and the one that likes to jump in and help. lol

Venus........
all the time like that

Legits are gangsters
....
bot appear
....
all attack
....
bot says : can i 1 v 1 u?
....
Yes

....
bot ( out of safe zone ) all attack :O
...............................................
There is no more 1 v 1 in venus

Most of it is Group fights

\\\\Dont flame me /////

Never understood the fact why people want 1on1 in an MMORPG.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

borat2 wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

Woohoo wrote:

there always seem to be people fighting in group now. They like gangsters, you got the attacker, the buffer, and the one that likes to jump in and help. lol

Venus........
all the time like that

Legits are gangsters
....
bot appear
....
all attack
....
bot says : can i 1 v 1 u?
....
Yes

....
bot ( out of safe zone ) all attack :O
...............................................
There is no more 1 v 1 in venus

Most of it is Group fights

\\\\Dont flame me /////

Never understood the fact why people want 1on1 in an MMORPG.

To do a direct test of player strength, with as few uncontrollable varibles as possible.

Satisfying to know that I can beat a blader in protector with 3 sun pieces, and another blader with sun shield, moon blade, and 1 som 1 sun armor pieces. No sun, rogue/cleric.

borat2 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:36 am

Shadowfox542
you are rogue, you are meant to be able to kill anything no matter what gear they have, why do you need the approval of a 1on1 to boost up your satisfaction?
Your char was made to be an assassin, killing shouldnt be your problem, i don`t understand why you would want to prove it to others or to yourself, that is basically like a warrior bragging about that most of his skill agro mobs.

Qosta420 · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 434 **Location:**

wootpops wrote:

Qosta420 wrote:

Goseki wrote:

It's true. Ppl realize how much easier and faster it is to kill someone. even with sun with force and debuffs. About the gang-bang thing... that's been happening for a LONGGGG time now.

I actualy know very few people who have force class along with a sun weapon. thats way overkill. they usualy will trade force for ice for the extra phys defense because you already cause insaine damage with a plused and pimped weapon.

Bladeskillz was at 80 cap :p

yeah i know. I knew a few others on other severs too. Personaly if i got my hands on a 9D sun blade i would pimp the living shit out of it and switch from force to ice.

Phix · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 716 **Location:** Ephesus

lack of grasswalk is killing me on my force blader, im using speed scrolls but they are hella expensive.. but then again i dont see many bladers on venus so yeah ^^

Force and Fire Fuhtuhwuuuhhhhh <3333333333333333

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Force is over rated for blader best build imo is 90bich/90fire/68ice/52light. U get to use Power guard and 1st lvl of grasswalk speed which makes u pretty much indestructible and Defense>speed.

i have to agree with this this build would be better, But the reason i take force is cuz i wanna be able to be a helper ingame, ressing people etc.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

borat2 wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

Woohoo wrote:

there always seem to be people fighting in group now. They like gangsters, you got the attacker, the buffer, and the one that likes to jump in and help. lol

Venus........
all the time like that

Legits are gangsters
....
bot appear
....
all attack
....
bot says : can i 1 v 1 u?
....
Yes

....
bot ( out of safe zone ) all attack :O
...............................................
There is no more 1 v 1 in venus

Most of it is Group fights

\\\\Dont flame me /////

Never understood the fact why people want 1on1 in an MMORPG.

because its called Pvp (player vs player)
+
i realy preface to 1 v 1 even if i have a party and he doesnt
and if u get a pt u will get healed ... etc (w/e help)
and its not fair for the one u are fighing
so..
the best way for a fair fight is 1 v 1

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Strwarrior wrote:

because its called Pvp (player vs player)

It can be (players vs players), doesnt mean its 1v1.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:29 pm

Nitro wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

because its called Pvp (player vs player)

It can be (players vs players), doesnt mean its 1v1.

It used to mean that till euro came... >.>

Burningwolf · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 2583 **Location:** :|

Disconn3cted wrote:

Woohoo wrote:

Speaking of this, I will go for FORCE BLADER. I will annoy the hell out of people and be like "hahahahhaha, noob u lose" lol

tcm

gtfo with that fa.ggotry

XMoshe · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:48 pm

Burningwolf wrote:

Disconn3cted wrote:

Woohoo wrote:

Speaking of this, I will go for FORCE BLADER. I will annoy the hell out of people and be like "hahahahhaha, noob u lose" lol

tcm

gtfo with that fa.ggotry

tcm

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Im Eu But i prefare 1 v 1
at least the 1 i "Own" cant complain or say outbuffed etc
so yeah its better

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