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 Post subject: Is +5 not enough anymore?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:20 pm 
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So I have +5 and blued out an 85 spear, glaive, and Chin Shield pretty good stats.


question...been stalling these items for a long time now and not even offers being made in my stall...is +7 the new +5? Lots of +5 Weapons are selling for 100m or under nowadays on the stall network from what i can see.

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:23 pm 
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+5 was never enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:23 pm 
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+5 is eh. decent for weapons.

most people only buy gold for +7's tho =s

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:24 pm 
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In terms of weapons: +5 is a minimum for 85 weapon, but most players go for +7 or higher
In terms of gear: +5 is good, some go for +6 (including me) or +7


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Yeah at 85, +7 is the new +5 >.>

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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+5=too easy to make,i could make a+ 5every day if i find good stats items to pimp and,tbh+5glow is sick,i dont like it

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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tbh+5glow is sick,i dont like it
what, you just said its sick then you said you dont like it. =/


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Sacrament wrote:
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tbh+5glow is sick,i dont like it
what, you just said its sick then you said you dont like it. =/

Sick can have a derogatory connotation...

And how much would say a level 85 +7 staff cost? I always see people globaling them for 400M-- but I don't know how successful they are.

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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ImmortalKiller wrote:
Sacrament wrote:
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tbh+5glow is sick,i dont like it
what, you just said its sick then you said you dont like it. =/

Sick can have a derogatory connotation...

And how much would say a level 85 +7 staff cost? I always see people globaling them for 400M-- but I don't know how successful they are.

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Back in the day +5s were amazing but as the game progresses +7s have been popping up every where. So yea now +7s are the new +5s.. I hardly see anyone with a +5 unless they they are turk. Most of them either have 85+5 or a Sun +5 (no being discriminatory towards them).

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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sick 1771 up, 216 down love ithate it

1)crazy, cool, insane
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did "sick" make a comeback or something, i stopped using that 15 years ago, i never liked skateboarding either


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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sick 1771 up, 216 down love ithate it

1)crazy, cool, insane
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did "sick" make a comeback or something, i stopped using that 15 years ago, i never liked skateboarding either

sick was never gone for it to make a comeback.
you should go outside more often.


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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in short: nah, your last tier, what else are you gonna spend your gold on? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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a good weap and set imo is at least +5 gear and accessories and a +7 weapon

a decent(or good enough for pve) is +4 gear and accessories and a +5 weapon

if you play everything in groups (pvp, job, grind) i don't think a +7 is needed. and since 90-95% of high levels bot they also prolly buy gold/have gold bots so spending 500m + on a weap is no problem. i already have problems spending 100 mil on one item(88 garm head) let alone 500m+ for a weap(for unlucky alchemy people like my self).

Or.. maybe im just cheap :P

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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If the weapon didn't glow golden then no one would care for +7.

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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If the weapon didn't glow golden then no one would care for +7.


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Prem Plus... Gives 10% Success in Enhancing... So go figure

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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when i had prem+ i couldnt make 1 +5 weapon and i tryed about 20 times but i made 1 lvl 64 weapon +5 when i didnt have prem+
maybe my char is just unlucky


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Prem Plus... Gives 10% Success in Enhancing... So go figure

That means nothing, I made 5 items +6 without premium+. Last night bought premium + and I start plusing. Result was 2 china rings failed on +6 shield fail on +5 at least 5 times, failed my shoulder on +6 but I made it +5 again. Its pure luck sometimes you have luck and sometimes just dont, and most important SOME ITEMS ARENT MEANT FOR ++++

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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EngravedDemon wrote:
Prem Plus... Gives 10% Success in Enhancing... So go figure


No it doesn't, it gives 5% luck, same as prem gold/silver do.
10% goes for stones, + is 5%.

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:09 am 
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slightly off topic : is it true that it is easier to + in csro and ksro? heard that it's very common to see +9 there. if that is true, then they should fix that chance of + success to make it like csro/ksro. for me, +5 are still affordable. anything more, it's going to be tight.


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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DontHackMePl0x wrote:
EngravedDemon wrote:
Prem Plus... Gives 10% Success in Enhancing... So go figure


No it doesn't, it gives 5% luck, same as prem gold/silver do.
10% goes for stones, + is 5%.


Read the descriptions properly...
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When enhancing items, chance of enhance success rate 10% increase


Now try doing a + and fail... It would say "ENHANCEMENT" failed... Check this pic out :P

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Id say yea +7 is the new +5 and +9 is the new +7. Every now and there you see that blueish glow.

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Now try doing a + and fail... It would say "ENHANCEMENT" failed... Check this pic out :P


wow ... you've got some serious alchemy going on there.


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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DontHackMePl0x wrote:
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Prem Plus... Gives 10% Success in Enhancing... So go figure


No it doesn't, it gives 5% luck, same as prem gold/silver do.
10% goes for stones, + is 5%.


Read the descriptions properly...
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When enhancing items, chance of enhance success rate 10% increase


Now try doing a + and fail... It would say "ENHANCEMENT" failed... Check this pic out :P

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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That's a friend's SS... not mine! Just wanted to point it out :P

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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I made both of my +7 weapons, both bought clean in stall net for under 10m, daggers were c21 but no blues or plus. Using under 100m, I got both to +7 (2 immortals, one astral used)


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Guess I will try to +7 my items then so they will sell lol

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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Back in the day, only viets had +7, now even noobs like me do.


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 Post subject: Re: Is +5 not enough anymore?
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Back in the day, only viets had +7, now even noobs like me do.

i dont =( im stuck with a +3 so that like usein a +1 if my maths right

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