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Ok atm I have warlock/cleric lvl 32 with cleric skills on lvl 28, but I love more bard so I was wondering what is different with warlock/cleric and warlock/bard. I just heard clerics are better for pvp. So which one to choose? What are good sides of and what bad of this builds? Also should I make new char or just to delevel my cleric mastery?

Please help.

Regrets.

warlock/cleric awesome pvp increases your survival chances in hunting alone imo i'd go warlock/cleric ftw because its most fun build of int for europe and you can heal yourself with healing orbit etc. get all cleric skills and parties will love you but sp farm alot

If you do like bard, then just go bard. Warlock/Bard is a good build, which is really good at pvp, don't matter if you have or not cleric as sub, even though it helps a lot. I wouldn't suggest you to delevel cleric, as it would cost a kind of big quantity of money, and it'd take time, maybe if you have 2 computers you could plvl a new char to like lvl 10-15 or so, and then keep up with that one.

then i will probably go warlock/bard because i really love his dances, buffs etc. I am just afraid other locks with cleric will be stronger then me... In the end there is much players without cleric sub, when they can i can too...
More answers will be good. Any lockbard there to say his opinion?

I play lockbard on phoenix and so far that's the best build I ever tried. Parties need a good bard most of the time and a lock is needed too. In solo grinding, it's faster than any other build imo cause of the speed if you know how to use it right. It is slightly worse than lock cleric in pvp but it isn't such a big difference, only cause of holy word 'n such

im a lockbard on gaia
i LOVE the build
like the person above me said
its the best for soloing cuz u can run fast and kill a lot of mobs with dots..
warlock/cleric is better at pvp than a warlock/bard
but warlock/bard is still a good pvp build

the reason i went lock/bard is because of the soloing speed.
its RIDICULOUS. i lovee it

the best party for quick solo lvling is a 2 man warlock/cleric warlock/bard party. exp free for all of course.

the lock/cleric casts RD, the lockbard casts swing march and they both can go dot'ing mobs as they please

good luck with ur warlockk

some lvl 70+ lockbard can tell me when he pvp with lock/cleric who win mostly times? Also other classes. I know it is almost the best class for pve but that doesnt mean much when you are lvl 90...
Also I heard on cap 100 holy word will not gain 100% imunnity (like now?) just 50%... so one more reason to choose bard?

I'm not a warlock/bard 70+, but I can tell you that for sure the cleric/warlock will have higher chances of surviving in theory, but what will truly matter is who knows how to use their char better, who has more luck, and who has the better equips. It depends on how you play. Warlock is one of the best classes for pvping in my honest opinion, don't actually matter what your subclass is, though I must say that cleric still helps a lot. I doubt holy word will have it's effect degraded. I don't think warlock/bard is a bad class at all. If you want just go warlock, it'll still be really strong, and then you can decide if you'll take bard or cleric later.

On Venus, the one you need to talk to is probably Ivanovich. He is a 70+ Warlock/bard, and I try to pvp him a lot. I am a Warlock/Cleric. When we do pvp, he never wins. This is because of a lot of reasons though. I am able to heal myself continuously, and also have somewhat pimped gear. He is a one shot for me. Now that he is 9d, I have asked him to pvp, but he keeps telling me "maybe later". xD

Anyways, the build is up to you. A warlock/cleric will win in an equal pvp, every time, simply because they can continuously heal.

I have decided to continoue warlock/cleric but should I play with this warlock/cleric lvl 32 with big gap all the time or should I first make wizard/cleric lvl 64 with bard mastery lvl 20-30 for some extra speed and then to make new warlock char and farm it with wizard?

It's up to you, probably making a 64 wizard and then full farming your new char will be sort of faster, though I cannot imagine myself standing all that cause it'll very probably take a damn long time (at least 2 months I believe). I personally would prefer to start right away the char I want, and farm it in 'steps' when I feel like doing it.

agreed ^

well I am just 14 and I have plenty of time And I'll first make this wizard because I want to have one ^^ Then I'll try to farm 1 mil sp. How much time will I need to farm 1 mil sp with lvl 64 wizard/bard with no items from item mall playing 2-3 hours a day? 3-4 months?

Being optimistic, I'd say at least 8 months. I don't doubt it'd get over a year.

lol.... Then I'll probably stay with wizard/bard maybe later with warlock.
raphaell666 thank you a lot you helped me a lot

I'm glad to hear (or read?) that, if you need help just ask.