Phoenix v.s. Venus?

srfaccount · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 17 **Location:**

deathtoall wrote:

Do any of you non venus people remember what is was like when botters were outcasts? prolly not cause most of you are botting now. This crybaby shit has got to stop. If you dont like Venus's rules, gtfo the server, and especially out of its topics unless you have something constructive to say.

No more bitching about how mean everyone on Venus is. No more "Fly and nightbloom are big bad hypocrites who run venus, and everyone listens to them and blah blah blah fckking blah". Venus is ran by the confederation. There are even some people who dont agree with it, but stay with it for all its perks.

You are my hero, said everything PERFECT.

Andromeda · **Posted:** Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:34 pm

On Venus you don't just have people saying the word legit. You have people that play their game legit from login to log out. They do not party with bots. They do not taxi with bots. They do not accept botting as ok or the norm. They destroy bot power levels every day. They make botters murder. I read it in union chat all the time.

CeLL · **Posted:** Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:47 pm

deathtoall wrote:

Bards can solo.

.... how? (i need help on this note) the only euro int build that can solo easily that im aware of is warlock, and even then they gotta know how to kite.

uBeR · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 966 **Location:**

You might not like the rules in Venus, but Venus is hands down the best place to play as a legit. Frankly speaking, the rules are not bad. You simply don't play with bots. That's why the legit community is so strong on Venus, as compared to Phoenix, where, really, they don't care so much about whether or not there is a strong bot presence or not.

caseyd4 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 669 **Location:**

Yes the Nazis are much stronger than the Hippies.

I agree.

mmaggot · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 14 **Location:** Canada

deathtoall wrote:

Bards can solo. This topic should have never been left open. Everyone knows Phoenix is a dead bot server. Assholes on Venus? Where? J/K

Phoenix=Small legit community, botters run the server less assholes(thats because most people are afk):p

Venus= Giant legit community, legits run the server, more assholes(Because more people are actually playing the fcking game. Parties from crabs to chasers. Awesome powerlevels to get you to your 20's so you can party from then on. Show me where that is a constant on any other server. is someone else on any other server gonna pay for all your guild upgrades and give you guild/union emblems just for being legit? Fck no. Do any of you non venus people remember what is was like when botters were outcasts? prolly not cause most of you are botting now. This crybaby shit has got to stop. If you dont like Venus's rules, gtfo the server, and especially out of its topics unless you have something constructive to say.

No more bitching about how mean everyone on Venus is. No more "Fly and nightbloom are big bad hypocrites who run venus, and everyone listens to them and blah blah blah fckking blah". Venus is ran by the confederation. There are even some people who dont agree with it, but stay with it for all its perks.

The mods here on srf do an awesome job. They dont need all of yall's closet botting, gold buying, cocksucking bitch.es opinions to tarnish this board any further than you have.

Sorry, but we legits rule venus(NSFW but I dont fcking care) My song to all you bitches who oppse the confed.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ggZBwre4c

This mentality is exactly why no other server is gonna be able to do what Venus did. All Venus members are doing is weakening chances for other servers. I went into phoenix forum and 2 out of 3 threads i read was a Venus member telling peole not to bother trying in phoenix and come to Venus. As far as I'm conserned militant Venus players on this board are as bad to legit community as botters.

Krevidy · **Posted:** Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:26 pm

dragonsoulz wrote:

someone in this thread is a bot and its not me

brilliant, lol.

deathtoall · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 619 **Location:**

mmaggot wrote:

This mentality is exactly why no other server is gonna be able to do what Venus did. All Venus members are doing is weakening chances for other servers. I went into phoenix forum and 2 out of 3 threads i read was a Venus member telling peole not to bother trying in phoenix and come to Venus. As far as I'm conserned militant Venus players on this board are as bad to legit community as botters.

^That mentality is what made Venus. That mentality is why fort is held by completey legit unions. Its also the reason everyone who tries it, loves it. Need to post more on this issue but need to get bread out of the oven.

Taelys · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 846 **Location:**

hmmm as long as avalon was legit from start in the way the confederation rules are now. I doubt it, it's easy to make and enforce rules later and hide your non confederation rules sticking at start.
If Avalon and its players didn't stick to the actual confed rules from start, well, they are not legit and should restart other characters other guilds and union. Those are the confed rules actually. OK, you have the 90 days rule imposed by someone.

mmaggot · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 14 **Location:** Canada

deathtoall wrote:

mmaggot wrote:

This mentality is exactly why no other server is gonna be able to do what Venus did. All Venus members are doing is weakening chances for other servers. I went into phoenix forum and 2 out of 3 threads i read was a Venus member telling peole not to bother trying in phoenix and come to Venus. As far as I'm conserned militant Venus players on this board are as bad to legit community as botters.

^That mentality is what made Venus. That mentality is why fort is held by completey legit unions. Its also the reason everyone who tries it, loves it. Need to post more on this issue but need to get bread out of the oven.

I see so it's ....screw all us still fighting the good fight on other servers.

Andromeda · **Posted:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:32 am

mmaggot wrote:

deathtoall wrote:

mmaggot wrote:

This mentality is exactly why no other server is gonna be able to do what Venus did. All Venus members are doing is weakening chances for other servers. I went into phoenix forum and 2 out of 3 threads i read was a Venus member telling peole not to bother trying in phoenix and come to Venus. As far as I'm conserned militant Venus players on this board are as bad to legit community as botters.

^That mentality is what made Venus. That mentality is why fort is held by completey legit unions. Its also the reason everyone who tries it, loves it. Need to post more on this issue but need to get bread out of the oven.

I see so it's ....screw all us still fighting the good fight on other servers.

I don't think there are enough truly legit players left to do it twice. If all the legits just go to one server THEN there will be a legit community on a legit server. But unfortunately, there are always crybabies and stubborns who mess it up for everyone else. JoyMax isnt going to listen to empty air.

srfaccount · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 17 **Location:**

mmaggot wrote:

deathtoall wrote:

mmaggot wrote:

This mentality is exactly why no other server is gonna be able to do what Venus did. All Venus members are doing is weakening chances for other servers. I went into phoenix forum and 2 out of 3 threads i read was a Venus member telling peole not to bother trying in phoenix and come to Venus. As far as I'm conserned militant Venus players on this board are as bad to legit community as botters.

^That mentality is what made Venus. That mentality is why fort is held by completey legit unions. Its also the reason everyone who tries it, loves it. Need to post more on this issue but need to get bread out of the oven.

I see so it's ....screw all us still fighting the good fight on other servers.

Why do you even need to attempt to get another server? there are clearly not enough legits left who arnt in Venus to get them anymore, just join Venus? its an already legit server?

Aventuris · **Posted:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:57 am

Taelys wrote:

hmmm as long as avalon was legit from start in the way the confederation rules are now. I doubt it, it's easy to make and enforce rules later and hide your non confederation rules sticking at start.
If Avalon and its players didn't stick to the actual confed rules from start, well, they are not legit and should restart other characters other guilds and union. Those are the confed rules actually. OK, you have the 90 days rule imposed by someone.

So you're saying that the creators of the confederation didn't stick to the rules they themselves made? If you really have NO idea what you are talking about i advise you to keep your mouth shut.

DonBebek · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 433 **Location:**

There ARE enough legits on phoenix, it's just they are scattered all around the server in different guilds and unions, and it's hard to gather them in 1 union or a few more guilds. Everybody wants to be guild or union leader, that is the main problem and the only reason why at the moment there is no full legit union on phoenix, everybody wants to be the farking leader

majincooler · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 579 **Location:**

deathtoall wrote:

Bards can solo. This topic should have never been left open. Everyone knows Phoenix is a dead bot server. Assholes on Venus? Where? J/K

Phoenix=Small legit community, botters run the server less assholes(thats because most people are afk):p

Venus= Giant legit community, legits run the server, more assholes(Because more people are actually playing the fcking game. Parties from crabs to chasers. Awesome powerlevels to get you to your 20's so you can party from then on. Show me where that is a constant on any other server. is someone else on any other server gonna pay for all your guild upgrades and give you guild/union emblems just for being legit? Fck no. Do any of you non venus people remember what is was like when botters were outcasts? prolly not cause most of you are botting now. This crybaby shit has got to stop. If you dont like Venus's rules, gtfo the server, and especially out of its topics unless you have something constructive to say.

No more bitching about how mean everyone on Venus is. No more "Fly and nightbloom are big bad hypocrites who run venus, and everyone listens to them and blah blah blah fckking blah". Venus is ran by the confederation. There are even some people who dont agree with it, but stay with it for all its perks.

The mods here on srf do an awesome job. They dont need all of yall's closet botting, gold buying, cocksucking bitch.es opinions to tarnish this board any further than you have.

Sorry, but we legits rule venus(NSFW but I dont fcking care) My song to all you bitches who oppse the confed.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ggZBwre4c

Some people need to stop taking the game too seriously....

These 2 words are really starting to piss me off

-Botters
-Legits

I wonder when will people stop arguing about the Venus - Legits - Botters issue...

Pericles · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 412 **Location:**

caseyd4 wrote:

Yes the Nazis are much stronger than the Hippies.

I agree.

Yeah!, being legit is not for weak minds. Is for ppl which wanna accept the challenge of fight against an almost rooted game in the rest of servers.

PlayMaTes · **Posted:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:18 pm

You bring a very interesting topic at hand. But to be short and simple, pheonix, is like a new landscape for people who botted in other servers. And to be honest, there are still hundreds of bots in pheonix, but now they are either more careful, or some like me have made pheonix into our little legit community. The thing i laugh at most is how people bring past events, into something that you are still asking about. Nightbloom this Fly that, its a game. If you really want a fresh start, then go pheonix, lots of 8 man parties, and overall, it may be a new server, but the botting compared to other servers is little. But as i said before, these newer servers are used by old players who botted, who want to get a fresh start at either botting, or just start a new page. Btw, i play pheonix, level 58 x bow/bard, currently full farming a wizard/cleric.
-Steph

hapnz · **Posted:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:19 pm

Pericles wrote:

Yeah!, being legit is not for weak minds. Is for ppl which wanna accept the challenge of fight against an almost rooted game in the rest of servers.

Depends. If you just want to waste time in a game, being legit is very very easy.

Pericles · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 412 **Location:**

hapnz wrote:

Pericles wrote:

Yeah!, being legit is not for weak minds. Is for ppl which wanna accept the challenge of fight against an almost rooted game in the rest of servers.

Depends. If you just want to waste time in a game, being legit is very very easy.

Thats my problem

DeeCee · **Posted:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:24 pm

from here the "Legit" flag in venus seems enough of a reason to play Phoenix

decide yourself what u want - communism or capitalism, both suck, but in a different way

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

You know.. I've thought about joining Venus, but I get this negative mentality vibe from there. I did visit the server and actually saw people cape battling at Constantine. Which was cool, but I'm edgy about the choice. Maybe it could be with all this hate given to and from Venus on this forum board.

At the moment, I'm not too picky. I sometimes play on Alps, Alexander, and Gaia.

Talonos · **Posted:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:18 pm

ofy1993 wrote:

DonBebek wrote:

There ARE enough legits on phoenix, it's just they are scattered all around the server in different guilds and unions, and it's hard to gather them in 1 union or a few more guilds. Everybody wants to be guild or union leader, that is the main problem and the only reason why at the moment there is no full legit union on phoenix, everybody wants to be the farking leader

ARE enough meaning you could take down 3500 bots and goldbots? If so, be my guest. I would love it if all the legits from other servers (except Venus) build up and take over Phoenix.

Though Venus has the most legits, and though we can take down 3500 bots and golbots, we are not big enough to distribute into two servers.

You know what my opinion is? Let the legits on Gaia and Phoenix combine and try to take another server. You can invite more from other Servers too.

The reason it's very hard to succeed is cause there are too many people using loader. Dumbasses who cannot give up their loader to play legit don't join.

Ever stop to think that the Fortress is not the end all be all for most people? I mean really how far up your ass does the SRO bug have to be to wake up at 4am in the morning to play a video game? For most rational, intelligent, and mature people a video game is used as a form of entertainment. A pastime that is meant to be fun with like minded individuals.

The truth is 99% of Revenant on Gaia is Venusians that were run off the server by the "enlist in the war or die with the enemy" mentality, the 8hr waits in town for the "perfect" party, the constant chest beating by the Avaloons, and all the farking drama that ensued. While not all of Avalon fall under the "Avaloon" title those that do succeeded in chasing far more legits off the server then they ever did bots. No the Avaloon title is reserved for those that take a video game way to seriously. The kind of person that pk's you because your buffs are a higher level then thiers (epic lulz still), the kind of person who invites you to "try your best and attack the Fortress" but when you do calls you a bot supporter in person and globals because the bots are in attendance and attack the Fortress as well, the kind of morons who cap and then pk a whole party because they are bored and want "some action". Closed minded one way tyrants who "will use the same tactics on legits as they do on bots" if you don't go along with them. It truely is a "legit haven" as long as you are a good little soldier, case in point look at all the good little soldiers getting themselves banned off of SRF.

Just an inkling of the Venus Experience. For the haters, I’ve done my 90 levels, I’ve earned my voice and how I choose to use it.

Fly wrote:

Welcome to venus. Your new Avalon overlords are pleased.

nightbloom wrote:

We have never quit in almost three years. I think we've consistently been assholes since SRO began.

non ego man wrote:

Well, I don't think Fly could have made it any clearer:

"If your not an ally in the war, your an enemy...From SG's post its very clear which side you stand on...we will use the same methods and tools, that we use against the bots, in fighting bot supports."

non ego man wrote:
Fly has made it clear that he considers BHA bot supporters. He's also stated that "we will use the same methods and tools, that we use against the bots, in fighting bot supports." Of course, this means Avalon members are prohibited from joining any parties with BHA members because the party ban has been one of the more effective tools used against bots.

Personally, I'd still like to party with Avalon members. Although the group I was partying with regularly (EM, Sad Eyes) has now moved up, I've been having fun with TE members like Zest and Puffin. Consider this an invitation to Avalon union members to continue to party with me. I promise I won't tell Fly.

Fly wrote:

avalon members are welcome to join bha parties all they want. and bha is welcome in my parties also.

its not the members fault that there leaders are bot supporting pussies.

but oh wait, i guess im to fault for that. my tactic of compleat denial to the bots is mean and crule and even tho its super effective your union is only here to "have fun" and can act in a way that is counter productive and destructive to the bot war without being labled bot supporters.

well enjoy "having fun". im sure when Venus ends up like Oasis you will have lots of hand holding fun with your carebear union while getting ass raped by the botters at every turn.

Avalon is tired of fighting so that ungreatfull lazy ..... can sit back and bad mouth us in compleat safety.

Quote:
The reason that the BHA is as healthy and vibrant as it is is because we foster an environment of brotherhood, family, and fun. We do that while playing legitly.

hahahahahaha.

so ego, how did just playing legitly work out for you on Oasis?
Quote:
I am not going to turn the BHA into an extension of your war machine.

Quote:
We do not want to play that way. IT IS NOT FUN FOR US.

if your not part of the solution, ur part of the problem.

but i bet it was very fun for Avalon to fight for 5 months, run out every sigle big bot guild, invite BHA from other server, then watch as the legits undo the majority of the bot war. Very fun indeed.

I regret ever bringing BlackHand to venus. I spent a shitload of time and effort pming SG and updating him weekly on the progress in the venus bot war, trying to convince him to move here. What a waste of time and effort. I should of seen the contribution that BH made to the bot was on xian and learned my lesson. Changing servers does not change a person. Same old spineless rollovers going around preching "personal legitness".

Bots are people too! LEAVE BOTTERS ALOOONNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /emo /cut /cut

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Interesting... I still have yet to witness the whole "if you're not with us you're one of them" mentality on Venus. I am, and always have been, 100% legit, but I don't fight bots. I don't party with them either. I don't make any effort to join the fortress war. I don't pk bots or bot plvl parties.

Partly because I'm only lvl 37, but I have YET to hear anyone in Avalon complain about me not leveling up and helping "fight the fight." I'm just here to have fun. I just stay away from the drama of the bots.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Taelys wrote:

hmmm as long as avalon was legit from start in the way the confederation rules are now. I doubt it, it's easy to make and enforce rules later and hide your non confederation rules sticking at start.
If Avalon and its players didn't stick to the actual confed rules from start, well, they are not legit and should restart other characters other guilds and union. Those are the confed rules actually. OK, you have the 90 days rule imposed by someone.

The confed was not on Venus from the start. There were two large legit unions, and new legit unions before the confed ever existed. Oh, and there are some warnings that need to be handed out for flaming.

deathtoall · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 619 **Location:**

Im not gonna quote all that Tal.. But you fail to see like all the others here. Fly and nightbloom do no run Venus or the confederation. The players run it.

If you are someone who left Venus(or just bitch about it) because you beleive that everything is run by the big bad mr fly and night, then you are weak minded and its good you arent here. The confederation runs Venus. If you cant play here and ignore the assholes, then thats your own fcking fault.

Do I take "orders from fly? No Im not even In avalon union, but I run the dungeon now. Doesnt matter how much of an asshole fly is, his methods are great, and they work. I came to venus to find something better, and through all the shit Ive been through Im still here and loving it. Hmm maybe I should go back to Red sea where the bots are 98% of the population. Or even better, Ill go back to greece and hang out with all the sunned gold buying bitches because I like not finding a grinding spot, or a party where all the sonof a bitches arent afk. **** you alls thought about Venus. if you cant hack it here, as said before. Get the fck out.

Edit, Do not edit my posts cause people say worse shit than this, and you all let it be. I swear to fcking god you will wish you hadnt.

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

You know.. I've thought about joining Venus, but I get this negative mentality vibe from there. I did visit the server and actually saw people cape battling at Constantine. Which was cool, but I'm edgy about the choice. Maybe it could be with all this hate given to and from Venus on this forum board.

At the moment, I'm not too picky. I sometimes play on Alps, Alexander, and Gaia.

Come join us! These dramas you see around the forums are mere blown-up exaggerations - a large show, if I may call it. In game, you'd hardly get involved in any of them.

srfaccount · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 17 **Location:**

deathtoall wrote:

Im not gonna quote all that Tal.. But you fail to see like all the others here. Fly and nightbloom do no run Venus or the confederation. The players run it.

If you are someone who left Venus(or just bitch about it) because you beleive that everything is run by the big bad mr fly and night, then you are weak minded and its good you arent here. The confederation runs Venus. If you cant play here and ignore the assholes, then thats your own fcking fault.

Do I take "orders from fly? No Im not even In avalon union, but I run the dungeon now. Doesnt matter how much of an asshole fly is, his methods are great, and they work. I came to venus to find something better, and through all the shit Ive been through Im still here and loving it. Hmm maybe I should go back to Red sea where the bots are 98% of the population. Or even better, Ill go back to greece and hang out with all the sunned gold buying bitches because I like not finding a grinding spot, or a party where all the sonof a bitches arent afk. **** you alls thought about Venus. if you cant hack it here, as said before. Get the fck out.

Edit, Do not edit my posts cause people say worse shit than this, and you all let it be. I swear to fcking god you will wish you hadnt.

i like you

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:08 pm

Quote:

if your not part of the solution, ur part of the problem.

Ahahahaha
I deeply feel sorry for whoever said this sentence. Because this one has a poor knowledge and don't have the definition of "neutral" in his brain.

Andromeda · **Posted:** Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:20 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:

Quote:

if your not part of the solution, ur part of the problem.

Ahahahaha
I deeply feel sorry for whoever said this sentence. Because this one has a poor knowledge and don't have the definition of "neutral" in his brain.

That would be Eldridge Cleaver and he was a pretty smart guy. He said it in a speech regarding civil rights.

BlazinAces · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 78 **Location:** Somewhere

times like these im glad im on mercury

and you Venus guys need to calm down really... this is insane

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