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Priam
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:55 am |
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Your wrong, already there are hybrid nukers out there capable of killing pure str dudes and dudettes.
Us hybrids crit to you know, and deal allot of damage with nukes, have more hp then pure ints, and are able to add a shitload of HP with alchemy. We’re all good ^^
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Ice_Warrior
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:59 am |
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i am int hybrid sword but wen i fight glavies they always pwn me, we pot fight for bout 30 secs den glavie then gives a few nice crits and i'm laying the on the floor dead, my hybrid ratio is 90% balance int. This was SUPPOSE to be best hybrid ratio for PVP, i can only pot the dmg off in time of i crit, if i dnt KD in 3-4 hits i think i prob be dead. Bladers there just no go, see then and run. But i noticed hybrids arevery gud in grou fights, cz they dnt die so fast since nukers are always targetted.
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Priam
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:25 pm |
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Ok, but you losing to a pure str char still doesn’t say all 90% hybrids do. In general We hybrid int’s stand more than just a good chance.
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:54 pm |
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mKaaru wrote: FANTM wrote: How good is this build in PvP?? better then most would expect, and ofcourse the luck factor also plays a big part in wether or not you'll overcome your opponent. do remind that the skills of my char are "lacking" in pvp as they are somewhat behind due to farming requirements but i can kill any pure build from the same level. don't worry, you can 1v1 with this build in PVP with relative ease but when people tend to create the perfect solo machine you'll always end up dissapointed. it all comes down to the quality of your weapon defence and a shitload of luck factor 
this should answer most pvp related questions. don't expect miracles to fall out of the sky when pvp'ing against a pure str blader or glaiver, it does really come down to the sp management of your chars skills but also the weapon you use (good white stats and added blue) as well as the gear you're wearing.
sure crits can determine the outcome of a pvp, but the kd as well as the stab can crit for a huge damage count as well, that combined with some good farmed (dual) nukes and you can 1v1 with relative ease. potting is also a skill but can also be a lifesaver, dont be afraid to buy pots or even use vigors that replenish your hp bar to the max and beyond! if you carry out your strategy wisefully then you can take out a pure str with relative ease =)
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Ice_Warrior
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:09 pm |
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my crits do gd dmg but its nothing compared to a glavier, they seem to have infinate hp or sumthing they just dnt die, i am lvl 42 with SOS sword +3 and lvl42 shield blok 17 +3, the glavie i fought only had a +3 weap, but he had stupidly high hp. Maybe cz i was wearing prot?
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kitary
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:16 pm |
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no im a hybrid , i pown glaivers , i wear protector ,
its you , not the build , practice some more i gues
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Jabu
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:10 pm |
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Very nice guide. I think this deserves a sticky.
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:14 am |
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sticky would be nice  i'll try to update once the skills are maxed at a certain level and maybe other parts of this guide when i'm going to sp pharm again. still need to choose the mob and location to grind, and the mastery level i'm going to farm for... prolly 58 or 61
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Jabu
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:05 am |
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Just a quick question. When you talk about 90% magic balance, is that fully clothed or naked?
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:28 pm |
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Jabu wrote: Just a quick question. When you talk about 90% magic balance, is that fully clothed or naked?
i'm aiming for a naked balance of 80% (currently 79%) and keep it steady there, fully clothed i'm 92% mag balance.
the best would ofcourse be a naked 90% mag balance, no need to get your ass in a roar and look for int added gear to keep that balance at or around 90%. but i want a 80% mag balance, and then use int added gear to get it to 90%, i might even buy an alternative full prot set that only adds str so i can go 64/90 or 80/80
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makisquirrel
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:06 am |
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I'm making this build too. I got a few modifications: I'll also add the chains, 'cuz there my favorite attacks ^^ I will not add ice, cause I wont be a tank anyway. I got a few questions: what kind of damage are you doing? About the same as a pure int, or way less?
_________________ IGN [Qiwi] LVL [3X] BUILD [Pure Str Fire|Ice Blader]
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:36 pm |
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makisquirrel wrote: I'm making this build too. I got a few modifications: I'll also add the chains, 'cuz there my favorite attacks ^^ I will not add ice, cause I wont be a tank anyway. I got a few questions: what kind of damage are you doing? About the same as a pure int, or way less?
i'm 2hitting devil yeti's atm using dual nukes, fire (mastery 59, nuke lvl5, imbue lvl3 book3) has an average of around 4k dmg and light (mastery 52, nuke lvl1, imbue lvl3 book3) does about 3.8k dmg. a pure int will always do more damage so i don't worry about that, at least i can tank a giant and 3 devil yeti's at the same unlike the pure int.
anywayz i've been adding the chains as well and i'm planning to remove the entire cold tree... the chains do quite some damage and 2 extra bicheon skills besides kd and stab for close quarter combat prove to be very usefull! as for my arguement to remove cold; i dont have any intention of killing +20k mobs just to add cold together with frost guard skills and passive >< .... besides i'm a shield user that weares prot, thats decent enough phy defence.
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aeonz
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:19 am |
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dont you use your nukes as your primary attack? would it be less productive if you use the chains because you only have few strength? or the dmg is still good even in pvp?
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makisquirrel
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:00 am |
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Another question: I just started over as I told before. This means I am WAY nehind my friend, which isn't going to wait for me  I thought of some kind of Leveling tactic. I'll stick with Light+Bicheon only, so I can go with a 0-1 level gap. When I reach his level, I will do some farming, and up my fire all the way. i know I will keep around his level from off then, since he is an elemental nuker who uses all three force three's. Is this a smart way to go or shall I take fire from off the beginning. If I will stick to this tactic it means I use light imbue... Off which I don't know if its good (for this build)!
_________________ IGN [Qiwi] LVL [3X] BUILD [Pure Str Fire|Ice Blader]
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Troo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:15 am |
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Just wondering:
- How are you gonna make a good build with 4 mastery's when lvl cap get's increased? I thnk you have to make a 90/90/90/30 build then.. which lacks in eather 1 passive (I think you have to drop cold to 30.. and then ask yourself if you don't want 30 heuksel instead).
- When cap get's increased.. the chance to KD+stab wil decrease extremely ;(, as it is lvl-based.
*thinks y would you take 90 bicheon if you can't up KD.. hmmmm* sor^^
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kitary
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:46 pm |
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well like this
fire 90 for damage your main nukes and imbue are here lightning 68 for all the skills related to parry and pierce force stuff cold 68 , for defence bisheon 68 for all the kd skills and passive , and chains to look cool in pvm
leaves you 6 mastery lvl's left
oow yeah , screw hexual passive , there is more beond builds than every build with spear passive
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Troo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:53 pm |
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Aww thnx that just took away my last doubts to go heavy-int hybrid sword thingy like erm.. you know what mean ^^
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:15 pm |
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i'm planning on a full offensive based char now and using 3 masteries. besides i don't want to sp grind a month or even more extra! i'm removing cold and go for the following:
90 bicheon
90 light
90 fire
my build will stay the same for all chosen skills and masteries (as displayed in first post) except for cold which will be removed completely , and i've also added the heaven chain as an extra close quarter combat move besides the kd and stab books. the 5 combo chain is POWERFULL and it does more damage then the kd or stab skills. i'm a dual nuker so that means maxing both lightningbolt series as well as second and third book of the flamewave series.
sure i'm int based without the almighty cold buff and passive but i don't care, using the shield gives me plenty of phy defence and by choosing this path i'll make a unique character instead of the standard 69 69 81 81 >< the extra 9% or even 21% in damage (through upgrading mastery) will be of quite significance when the game progresses.
i'll try to update the guide once i've removed cold and all three masteries have their skills maxed at a certain level (yeah i still dunno when i want to farm, currently just 0gapping my to the levelcap)
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makisquirrel
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:26 am |
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Can somebody please comment my grinding technique a few posts above? Thank you...
_________________ IGN [Qiwi] LVL [3X] BUILD [Pure Str Fire|Ice Blader]
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Bliss
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:40 pm |
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had a cape fight with 54 hybrid and i was 55 pure int .. there was not the smalles chance for the hybrid ... even without auto pot i killed him even he got the first nuke ...
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:51 pm |
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Bliss wrote: had a cape fight with 54 hybrid and i was 55 pure int .. there was not the smalles chance for the hybrid ... even without auto pot i killed him even he got the first nuke ...
you're up 1 level
pvp luckbased
crit, stun, block, succesfull kd
opponent build
are you facing a farmed char? what gear (garm, arm, prot) was he/she using?char balance, ar, parry etc
gear
SoX items? how many added + on items? how much add st or int? other extra blue obtained through alchemy such as hp parry increase etc
weapons
heuksal, bicheon or pacheon based? using a clean or +3 till +9? crit value, white stats meaning +xx% damage increase or reinforce increase etc
extra
use of vigors? is your opponent an uber newb not knowing 1v1 strategies versus certain builds? client sided delay?
all crap mentioned above are part the equasion and even then it's still not on point, and yes such crap is rather important to know about when you really want to bitch about pvp
i completely destroyed a pure str 60 glaiver in pvp last night ( bo5 3-0), went against a pure str 60 blader and in bo3 i won 3-2.
a while ago i went 1v1 in jobwar versus a nerd i know, he's 63 pure str and both without zerk, eventually became a potfight till a friend of mine jumped in and we both nailed his ass.
sometime you win sometime you lose, this build is good as any other out there 
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makisquirrel
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:48 pm |
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I don't get it. I've put all my stat points (LVL 20 already) into INT except for one, and I still have only 83% mag balance. Every time I level up and 1 stat point is put in both stats, I fall down like 4%... HELP ME PLEASE!
_________________ IGN [Qiwi] LVL [3X] BUILD [Pure Str Fire|Ice Blader]
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Troo
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:02 am |
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That's because you already start with 10str/10int.. meaning you begin with a 1:1 build. Not to forget 1int/1str is putted into your build as well each time you lvl. It takes a while to get a magical balance high enough..
Just put around 30str in your build and you'll get near 85/90% magical balance at higher lvls. Atleast I think haven't really tried it myself
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makisquirrel
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:08 am |
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I think I'll add everything to INT, until I have 90% and then just keep it that way. How long will it take me until I have 90%?
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Troo
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:09 am |
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I think around lvl 30 but I could be wrong.. just keep an eye on your balance once in a while^^
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JustBlaze
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:02 pm |
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Nice guide. Sticky 
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Ice_Warrior
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:36 am |
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no its not hapening any1 got any tatics to kill str, maybe crit ratio tabs? but they also can have blok ratio, dam dis sux plz help me.
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Minerva
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:55 pm |
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When I hit lvl 30 with my Hybrid INT, what is the fastest way to grind?
Fire Nuke > Lightning Nuke > Lion Shout
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Soul Cut Blade > Billow Chain > Stab N Smash
I have done this before with the Weapon skill combos, and killed pretty fast, but wouldn't nukes be faster or not?
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mKaaru
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:18 pm |
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if you're planning on dual nuking then yeah using those would be the fastest way to grind, other then that using a golden ticket to double the leveling process and ofcourse a decent mob area with good respawns which you can 2hit
for me that really proved to be the fastest method of leveling, 2hitting in a area filled with mobs that respawned quite fast and the almighty uber grind fest when you zerk it and 1hit everything in your sight
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Minerva
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:55 pm |
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Ah. Your right, i'm 2 hitting mobs at my level or one level below, and when i zerk, just need one nuke hit. 
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