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It is not discrimination. It is not about what you want. It is not even about which race it better. It's about how the races are built and what they are made for.

When I said they are like a slice of pie, I meant that the whole pie is ideal. Chinese chars are self contained and therefore act as a whole without a party. They have buffs, fast pots and both magical and physical damage. But European chars are just parts. If you are a wizard you have very low physical defense and that means you need a tank to survive. If you are a tank that means you do low damage and you need a wizard to increase your dps. Both use up MP like mad because wizards have pure magical skills and tanks have a low reservoir of mana so they need a bard. They all have pot delays so they need a cleric. The interdependencies go on and on. Fort a European party to function correctly, it needs all those parts. Omitting one to allow a char that doesn't need the party to function is pretty selfish on the part of the Chinese. I can see using one as a filler when some part is missing but not as a regular part. I get that Chinese players want their cake and eat it too. We all want that but saying it is discriminatory or implying that it depends on what server you play that matters is non sequitur.

It's no excuse for excluding Chinese union members because they can't buff you. Chinese players like to be in parties too regardless if they can solo or not. Just because I was able to solo doesn't mean I liked it. In the Xian situation (Yes, it does matter what server, especially when it's Xian vs. Venus), they would hold open the spot for a Euro even if a Chinese union member needed a spot. I don't care whoever benefits the party, it means more then that, especially for a union. You're suppose to help each other not only try to benefit yourself. This also applies to other parties, but people aren't really all that nice in this game. What it comes down to is how greedy you are to get exp/sp. I only see what you are saying to be supporting of discriminating the Chinese race > >

In JM's eyes the only non-legit people are the ones using clientless bots to make real life money and the spammers in towns that advertise it.

If you got banned from SRO you either
1. Used a Clientless Bot
2. Used a Bot that JM detected as a Clientless Bot
3. Spammed in chat with some website that sells gold/items
4. Charge backed

So pretty much anything other than those 4 things you can get away with in this wonderful game.

You sound like a petulant teenager. You don't care how it affects the party, you just want what you want and everyone better do that 'cause if they don't they are mean people. That's a hardcore, logical argument you have there.

back at the 80 no1 gave a damn about the "party structure"...needing clerics/bard/wiz ect. chinese/euros including wiz, warriors did fine without begging for buff.....usually cuz the party area at Generals was small and party generals didn't last long.....on Roc. mt is a different story..cuz the area for the party is much bigger and several party mobs can spawn all around, without cleric support.."party structure" to do there role a party can become a failure...most euros can do just fine without any help...but it somewhat becomes of a matter of being "greedy" to add wizards for faster killing/lving....adding wizard means you will also need warriors.

No, I'm saying you should party with your union mates when they need it, not party others/random people just because you are gonna get more exp/sp. Cause friends come first right? Do you even have any? You seem to not be able to grasp this concept.

Answering the off-topic part


So you don't care huh? Then you can sit there and wait since a euro party won't start without a class they need to function. You're chinese and won't die, leech a bit of exp while the rest of the pt would be struggling to survive depending on what spot you're taking up.

That would be a form of greed. Since you're chinese the only person you're helping is yourself while other pt members are dieing losing exp. In some cases it's fine for a chinese to be in the pt but only if the rest of the builds cover each others weaknesses. A average functioning euro pt would be at least 5 for any kind of decent exp maybe 4.

Wizard has no defense so you get exp and he loses every time he gets mobed and chinese can't taunt mobs off him or protect so he needs a tank. Tank brings in a lure and dies due to 15 seconds so he needs a cleric. Passed a certain point spells cost to much so they need a bard.

Those 4 classes could function with 4 chinese if needed too. But any other euro they invite say a few more wizards, well that tank better be great and split buffs or you'll need another tank for two more ints. Taking up more slots in the pt leaving about 2 for any chinese players.

So basically a average Euro pt has to wait for at least 5 or 6 other players to come online and have the classes they need to function AT ALL, while you a chinese have the freedom to solo or try and get in a euro pt. While they're waiting 20 minutes to a few hours of Zero exp, a chinese could have been grinding solo just fine.

Are you sure you're not the one being greedy?

Yeah, still don't care. Been in parties with Euro union mates. I was a blader (And once a pure nuker with only nukes, I could never solo). I'd tank for them. Is a tank in a Euro party bad? You know how long it takes to solo as a blader? Do you know how FUN it is? Mind you, my entire guild that were Chinese felt this way when we were rejected and from our usual union parties. The Euros realized they were benefiting themselves and didn't care about the rest of the union. So to you, I guess we're all greedy. Though I personally see it the other way around.

And you sound narrow minded and can only see your own opinion. Joining our own unions party didn't hurt it, we have been in it before and we did our share just fine. It wasn't always just Euro, and it was still fast and fine, no one ever complained and Sacch said plenty of times something like if she was leeching or not helping that she didn't need to be in the pt, no one was struggling to survive.

You really don't know what it was like, or Sacch. She never said anything about them being "mean ppl" if they don't do what she wants, shes simply saying that it sucked that our own union stopped partying with us, why do you try to defend it lol. She didn't say Chinese NEED to party, she didn't say Euro didn't need to, it wasn't about that. It was about friends in a union.

They didn't let you into parties because they were smart. If you were a considerate unionmate, you would get that you would be hurting their party if you tried to shove your way into it using the friend card. You both sound pretty greedy to me.

Cause lvling up is more important then doing things together as a union, gotcha.

You only seem to understand the concept of grinding and getting lvls and that its most important(and you call us greedy), you don't understand what we were thinking so just drop it.

Am I the only person that prefers solo play on Chinese&Euro?

No, i do too. Chinese more so, but i do like to solo.

Well like PR0METHEUS said:


And something I'm also wondering myself:


If you still see it otherwise thats your problem and I guess I'm greedy then, wanting to play an mmorpg with friends. If I wanted to solo I'd play a console rpg. But whatever, this is going nowhere.

OT: Still legit in my book.

You may be friends and unioned but as a chinese you can not protect a weaker Euro int build who will die multiple times to mobs 8+ lvls higher. So while you're in this party wouldn't you think the guy would say **** this and leave from all the deaths?

Real parties should be killing shit around the 11 lvl higher range depending on spawns and who's in the pt. Chinese won't keep agro, can't buff others so the only person that's benefiting is them while others get pissed from dieing to much and it becomes no fun for them.

You can join a Euro pt but while you're saying "can we start yet?" they may still need a decent tank, cleric w/e to stay alive so have fun waiting like the rest of them to grind.

I can guess Islamic characters will have party buffs so why wouldn't they be allowed? If you can keep a damage dealer alive more power to you, chinese are only damage/damage support builds unless you want to spam one person force heals. Chinese can interrupt and kd one or two mobs but wizard nukes 5 so 3 are running at him....

How would you feel to be in a party where you're the only person dieing over and over and over again? Just cause you can tank mobs doesn't mean you can protect people who can't. Near cap people can throw in more chinese to the pts because they can survive with pimped gears, closer lvl range but real euro parties will try to fight 11 lvl higher mobs so it doesn't matter how much a chinese can tank when a int is dieing without buffs.

/Edit You can also think of it this way. Say a union member wants to grind and you're a chinese capable of soloing yet in a Euro pt that could use that other member. While you're having all this fun with the party that guy has nowhere to grind since he needs a party to function or can risk soloing and dieing.

We have a party of 4 euros on Greece. The rest of our (only) legit union is chinese. As we party in the cave random euros join our party and are instantly kicked when our union *chinese* characters want to party. The EXP is lower and the chance of dying is higher but we're helping our friends/legits level up. That is more important than any exp or time consumed to me. It's not a giant issue and it's not like we're going to die over and over because we let chinese characters into our party. I'm a wizard and even though I may sacrifice a euro for a chinese it doesn't mean I'm going to sit there and tank like a retard. I can cope with any sacrifice made especially if it means I'm helping my friends.

+1. Bros(union) b4 Hoez(anyone else)

Exactly. I'd sacrifice time/exp/sp for a union member as well etc. Anytime we had a party and a union member needed it another member would leave in a short amount of time for the other. Either cause they had to logoff, wanted to let the next person join or kick the random guy. In the beginning anyway. This seems extremely odd coming from an Avalon member because you guys always partied together as a union and I KNOW there were Chinese members, even if just a little. If you or Andromeda don't see what I'm saying then I can't help you or explain it further.

I don't get why you guys like to exaggerate. Only a stupid Euro will die over and over again. Half the time when I played we had at least two Chinese in a party. One Luring [they're awesome lurers], and one nuking. I, as a tank, was able to concentrate more on holding agroe and protecting my ints instead of running around luring mobs. Personally, I hated luring. People don't die often; more people have died when I was in a bad full Euro party than when I was in a good mixed party. I never partied on my Chinese though; I was ablt to lvl much faster with a GT&GSPT while soloing.

+1, the only reason i ever pted with a euro was because i wanted to know more ppl, but imo, soloing is fun if you do it to have fun, and not focus on lvling and being the best (thats prolly the reason im always a low lvl, but eh =p)

Nah, you can find me solo'ing a lot, even on my "auto-shareable", though few in number nowadays, euros lol ;P



Kinda agree. Whenever I pt'd on my nuker, the pt rarely fell apart.

Though, I found that the key to getting into pts, then at least, was to make friends. A not-so-well known chinese player in the pt and ppl normally strayed away from it or generally didn't accept me into it. Oh well, fck that...go solo or do something else.

Wouldn't really say being a Chinese in a pt is "greedy". However, whenever a euro came that could benefit more from the pt ...I left the pt willingly without anyone forcing / telling me to go. (though that can vary person-to-person)

No, you're always a low level because you keep re-rolling '~,~. If you just kept with one char, preferably that warlock you had, it'd prolly be 7x by now >.>

OT: Meh, bots in share pts suck. People realized this back on Oasis even when share parties were mixed, or pure chinese; the bots would go off attacking random mobs when the pt was fighting a pt giant or a few pt mobs, didn't really contribute much to the pt as a whole.

+1 for nightbloom, I wish I was as great as he was but my system gets bogged down alot.

Still with the manipulating Jackal crap? After a whole year even lol *Tugs Jackal's leash tight* He's quite an important trophy to you people isn't he?

Not even you are dumb enough to believe that was typed by anyone older than 12. That sentence is a travesty and it's not her style. Someone is jerking your chain and you are letting them. Kiddies from SRA spam both forums so it is most likely one of them being dumb.

I didn't mean to imply that was nightbloom. I was +1-ing for being "better then me". People over the internet don't bother me, it's all just words on a screen. I just thought it was pretty funny how some people are so obsessed with DarkJackal and can't let things go, after a year lol I saw this person post about me in other topics and I didn't care, same with the pm spam.

it IS nightbloom:

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