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 Post subject: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:24 pm 
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im thinking to make a dual weapon chinese 90 glavie 90 blade and 30 ice. For 100 cap 100 blade 100 glavie and 100 fire. any idea how it will be?


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:27 pm 
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It'll suck..
Dual builds already start sucking at 80 cap, why would u mind building one with 90 or even 100 cap o_O


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:29 pm 
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cuz blade can easily get bleed or other stats such as divi and impotent, then switch to glavie kill fast. also you can do kd stab stab follow by emperor windless and storm.


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:34 pm 
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Jaapii wrote:
It'll suck..
Dual builds already start sucking at 80 cap, why would u mind building one with 90 or even 100 cap o_O



Blade/glaive dual is a killermachine in 90cap :banghead:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:34 pm 
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why dont u just delvl ur blader/glaiver or w/e the build it is now and add the other...imo pure str dual builds with low lvl imbues seem to be interesting...


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i think you'd be lacking in the defense department with no cold and you would also have no speed from light. 90 cap would be about the last duel build cap possible. you can try it, but i would go to a private server or somthing where you can level to cap faster. or maybe look for youtube videos.

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kreisimees wrote:
Jaapii wrote:
It'll suck..
Dual builds already start sucking at 80 cap, why would u mind building one with 90 or even 100 cap o_O



Blade/glaive dual is a killermachine in 90cap :banghead:

show us a video :P

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:41 pm 
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slimshady wrote:
i think you'd be lacking in the defense department with no cold and you would also have no speed from light. 90 cap would be about the last duel build cap possible. you can try it, but i would go to a private server or somthing where you can level to cap faster. or maybe look for youtube videos.



i already have a lvl 90 char on troy.. the main concern is that at 100 cap i cannot get snow shield. that suks . but i doubt anyone will get 100 ice. most ppl will just go 100 weapon 100 fire 80 light and 20 ice.

oh i forgot to mention that by getting the glavie passive you get extra hp bonus which kinda help you survive.


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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kreisimees wrote:
Jaapii wrote:
It'll suck..
Dual builds already start sucking at 80 cap, why would u mind building one with 90 or even 100 cap o_O

Blade/glaive dual is a killermachine in 90cap :banghead:

Why don't I see more ppl doin this then?
It could be "decent" in 1v1 but it should suck in jobs for sure..


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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:p you shouldnt worry about defense because u always have sun sets

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:02 pm 
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or try 100 glaive 100 blade 100 light? speed, more speed, stun and div/impotant/bleed xfer to other ppl so could be more usfull in group pvp. and theres always euros for body bless and soul bless.

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:25 pm 
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drop blade and just do force >.>

force bladers will be gods at 100 cap.

Stun, fear, dull, bleed, divisionx2, weaken, decay, impotent x2, etc....

and holy spell gets gimped (apparently)

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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Simply make 100 Blade, 100 Heuskeal, 80 Fire, 20 Ice.
You should learn by now, that your damage from imbue is really small...
Lv.80 Fire imbue does slightly higher damage than lv.5 Ice imbue.

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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Nitro wrote:
Simply make 100 Blade, 100 Heuskeal, 80 Fire, 20 Ice.
You should learn by now, that your damage from imbue is really small...
Lv.80 Fire imbue does slightly higher damage than lv.5 Ice imbue.


but fire buff and passive increase your phy damage and at 98 you get new imbue


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:08 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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why people critize it but not a galvie/force player... basically you get kd/block out of having a blader instead of force tree, other trees would be same


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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yuge07 wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Simply make 100 Blade, 100 Heuskeal, 80 Fire, 20 Ice.
You should learn by now, that your damage from imbue is really small...
Lv.80 Fire imbue does slightly higher damage than lv.5 Ice imbue.


but fire buff and passive increase your phy damage and at 98 you get new imbue


2-4% higher damage? Lol, that will make HUGE difference.

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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Nitro wrote:
Simply make 100 Blade, 100 Heuskeal, 80 Fire, 20 Ice.
You should learn by now, that your damage from imbue is really small...
Lv.80 Fire imbue does slightly higher damage than lv.5 Ice imbue.


I agree with nitro. Imbues for pure strs have been tested time and time again and found to have little effect on the damage. While you can get str increase passive, is it really worth losing that 1 or 2 minutes of 20% snowshield for that will help you tank that little bit extra?

Overall i think this build will work quite well actually. With the bladers bleed and new combo at 100 with dull fear and stun and current combo with division, impotent, and bleed theres a lot of good ways to kill people.

Inflict bleed, use lightnin chain for division etc. Then use chain for dull, fear, stun. If fear is put on switch to glaive use the windless (dull one), the stun one, and emperor. If not kd, quadruple stab with crit increase.

I think you should make it and show us how it goes


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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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I agree too with Nitro.
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Jaapii wrote:
It'll suck..
Dual builds already start sucking at 80 cap, why would u mind building one with 90 or even 100 cap o_O

Don't talk about things you've never experienced.
EDIT: If you were being sarcastic, ignore my quote :P.


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DO IT YUGE!
i will get u a sun blade and glavie at 100cap

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:06 am 
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to the OP, its a good build.

Ive almost finished mine, farmed 500k sp on it at ongs Im 61 atm, 0 gapping to 90.

Dont listen to the idiots that says it sucks, I wouldnt be making one if it did.

Mine will be 90 fire 90 blade 90 glaive 30 light (dont bother with the 30 ice)

100 cap will be 100 fire 100 blade 100 glaive.

Its a sun noob killing build without force. I was going to do a force glaiver but decided blader glaiver is stronger, and it is.

You just have toknow how to play it.

Seen a lot of posts about snow on str builds, thats really lame. You guys are doing something wrong a str should never need to use snow.

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 Post subject: Re: lvl 90 and lvl 100 dual weapon str builds
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str should use snow only and i mean ONLY when massivly outnumberd like 6-1 or running away with sheild in hand.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:16 am 
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[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
str should use snow only and i mean ONLY when massivly outnumberd like 6-1 or running away with sheild in hand.


thats what i mean in job and fortress war. and i think new imbue + 3-4% phy damage increase by fire buffs do make a difference. guessing aound 700-800 range.


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