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sinny
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Post subject: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:18 pm |
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Should I max them out or where should I stop leveling them? Anyone know which level of the skill gives the highest level of effects? (like Dull level7, Stun Level 7... etc) Thanks!
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:28 pm |
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Max both of them. The last status level is 10. If you keep them at status level 7 it will be unlikely that anyone over level 80 will get the effect on them. You'll still get kb's also but they will be less likely.
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:35 pm |
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you know at which skill level gives level 10 effect?
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:42 pm |
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sinny wrote: you know at which skill level gives level 10 effect? probably 92 and above just keep upgrading it till you see it gives 10D bleed, stun status and i would get shield crush, dull is very useful in pvp, slows the opponent down
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:18 pm |
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awesome, thanks guys!
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:04 am |
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EcsTasY wrote: Max both of them. The last status level is 10. If you keep them at status level 7 it will be unlikely that anyone over level 80 will get the effect on them. You'll still get kb's also but they will be less likely. It's 80% kb chance for every lvl so you will kb just as often, the bleed/dull will just stay for a shorter time when you get it on them. You can get it on people though, but it's less likely. I would just max them unless you need the sp for more important skills.
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:23 pm |
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Yes.
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:48 pm |
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Well, I'm not going to max the skill level, I'll just max the "effect level," and according to lopasas, at mastery level 92, I can get the level 10, highest for this cap, skill effects (Dull lvl10, Bleed Lvl10, etc). It will only add more damages if I upgrade any higher.
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:43 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: EcsTasY wrote: Max both of them. The last status level is 10. If you keep them at status level 7 it will be unlikely that anyone over level 80 will get the effect on them. You'll still get kb's also but they will be less likely. It's 80% kb chance for every lvl so you will kb just as often, the bleed/dull will just stay for a shorter time when you get it on them. You can get it on people though, but it's less likely. I would just max them unless you need the sp for more important skills. It's not 80% chance as the level gap gets larger. A level 20 using shield trash will have a tough time knocking back a level 100, although it says 80% chance. Then its also much less rare to get a status level 7 on a level 100 and if you somehow get lucky enough to do it, it will last like 2 seconds...
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:13 pm |
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EcsTasY wrote: XMoshe wrote: EcsTasY wrote: Max both of them. The last status level is 10. If you keep them at status level 7 it will be unlikely that anyone over level 80 will get the effect on them. You'll still get kb's also but they will be less likely. It's 80% kb chance for every lvl so you will kb just as often, the bleed/dull will just stay for a shorter time when you get it on them. You can get it on people though, but it's less likely. I would just max them unless you need the sp for more important skills. It's not 80% chance as the level gap gets larger. A level 20 using shield trash will have a tough time knocking back a level 100, although it says 80% chance. Then its also much less rare to get a status level 7 on a level 100 and if you somehow get lucky enough to do it, it will last like 2 seconds... uhm its weird imo, because the kb chance is really 80% at any level, but the status error is not 80%, to put dull on a 90+ u really need at least 8d dull skill
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:28 am |
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EcsTasY wrote: XMoshe wrote: EcsTasY wrote: Max both of them. The last status level is 10. If you keep them at status level 7 it will be unlikely that anyone over level 80 will get the effect on them. You'll still get kb's also but they will be less likely. It's 80% kb chance for every lvl so you will kb just as often, the bleed/dull will just stay for a shorter time when you get it on them. You can get it on people though, but it's less likely. I would just max them unless you need the sp for more important skills. It's not 80% chance as the level gap gets larger. A level 20 using shield trash will have a tough time knocking back a level 100, although it says 80% chance. Then its also much less rare to get a status level 7 on a level 100 and if you somehow get lucky enough to do it, it will last like 2 seconds... I think ur thinking about kd instead of kb. But yes, ur right about the statuses.
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:02 am |
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Well, from experiences, when i fight against someone around my level or lower, i kb them a lot more often then when i fight against high level players. It could be that kb has less chances of happening when fighting against higher level players, or it just badluck when i fight against the high level players?
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:55 am |
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sinny wrote: Well, from experiences, when i fight against someone around my level or lower, i kb them a lot more often then when i fight against high level players. It could be that kb has less chances of happening when fighting against higher level players, or it just badluck when i fight against the high level players? KB should still be the same probability no matter what so it's probably in your head  That's why level 1 shield trash can still be used so well in pvp at any level.
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Post subject: Re: Should I max out Sudden Twist and Shield Crush? Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:05 am |
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sinny wrote: Should I max them out or where should I stop leveling them? Anyone know which level of the skill gives the highest level of effects? (like Dull level7, Stun Level 7... etc) Thanks! there's a slightly confusing info in that, but pretty easy if you get what I mean. Higher levels meaning they have better chance of resisting whatever it is given to them, so with that speaking if you want to really land status on them better update the lvl imo. KB is always the same though, because even my lvl 64 shield crush can KB anyone just that dull that cna't be often landed because of the lvl of it I pressume. That's my input on it, personal experience as well so to answer your question yes you should if you have enough sp for them.
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