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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:43 pm 
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First she got stabbed in court while her 3-yeard-old son was watching, and then her husband was shot accidently. What a sick world.

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(CNN) – Hundreds of Egyptians took part Monday in the funeral of Marwa Sherbini, an Egyptian woman who was stabbed to death last week in the German city of Dresden in a crime believed to be racially motivated.

Sherbini, 33, was stabbed to death Wednesday in a courtroom as she prepared to give testimony against a German man of Russian descent whom she had sued for insult and abuse.

The man, identified in German media as Alex A., 28, was convicted of calling Sherbini, who wore a headscarf, “terrorist,” “bitch” and “Islamist” when she asked him him to leave a swing for her 3-year-old son Mustafa during an August 2008 visit to a children’s park.

He was fined and appealed the ruling. The two were in court Wednesday for that appeal when Alex A. attacked, pulling out a knife and stabbing Sherbini 18 times. He also stabbed her husband three times and attacked another person.

According to Arab media, police officers tried to intervene to end the fight, and a number of shots were fired. One hit the husband, who fell unconscious and is currently in intensive care in the hospital of Dresden University.

Sherbini was three months pregnant at the time of her death.

Hundreds attended Sherbini’s funeral in Alexandria, Egypt, her hometown, among them government officials, including Egyptian Manpower Minister Aisha Abdel Hadi and Telecommunications Minister Tariq Kamel, Egyptian media reported.

Many shouted hostile slogans against Germany and called for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to take a firm stand on the incident. Egypt’s grand mufti, Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi, demanded the severest punishment to be issued against Alex A.

Berlin witnessed angry protests on Saturday, when hundreds of Arabs and Muslims demonstrated after a funeral prayer that called her killing an outrageous racist murder against Muslims.

In a phone call with Al Arabiya, Marwa’s brother, Tariq Sherbini, said, “Extremism has no religion. My sister was killed simply because she wore the veil. This incident clearly shows that extremism is not limited to one religion or another and it is not exclusively carried out by Muslims.”

“We are only asking for a fair punishment,” he said, adding that his sister was not a radical. “She was a religious woman who prayed and wore her headscarf, but she was killed because of her belief.”

Anger about Sherbini’s death smoldered online, as Twitterers and bloggers pushed the cause.

“She is a victim of hatred and racism,” tweeted Ghada Essawy, among many other Arab twitters and bloggers. Essawy called Sherbini “the martyr of the veil.”

Various videos circulated on YouTube calling on Egypt to take action and urging Germany to address what their makers saw as a new wave of hatred against Arabs and Muslims in its community.

One video showed various pictures of a young happy Marwa saying that “The woman stood up for her rights and she was killed. May God bless her.” The English font in the video presentation asked “when will Egypt cares for its citizens’ rights inside Egypt and abroad.”

Sherbini and her husband moved to Dresden in 2003, after the husband received a grant to study genetic engineering in the renowned Max Planck Institute. He was scheduled to present his Ph.D. thesis in the coming days.

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That's so sad, three months pregnant. What an awful person who could do that to a woman.

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How the hell do you stab someone 18 times and another person 3 times + someone else without the officials intervening? I might you're surrounded by the police in there and its not like that can all happen in under 10 seconds. Someone dropped the ball there.

And at the fact that they're saying this is a new outbreak of hatred against Muslims in a community is purely asinine. The actions of one do not represent the sentiments of the community as a whole.

As for marching and protesting what the hell is the point? Trying to get into the media spotlight? It was one guy, if that many people were pissed off they should just lynch him.

Thats just like racism against blacks in America, one person is at fault and everyone starts shitting bricks. Some, not all, of the people marching and getting angry about it on the internet are being just as racist and ignorant as the man who killed the woman.

People should not be coming together to pick it apart as something wrong with the people of Germany, thats racist! Rather they should be coming together to mourn the woman.

TBH its sad that people use the senseless murder of a woman to justify outrage against another group of people -.-

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wait theres no freedom of speech in egypt?

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This is just awful.

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Purely the court and officers' fault. In America, it would be impossible to bring a concealed weapon in a courtroom, let alone be allowed to use it in such a blatant manner. I thought Germans were smart. Im totally surprised that they failed to do their job.

One more reason why the Middle East will hate the West even more...

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Mr.Ganji wrote:

One more reason why the Middle East will hate the West even more...


Hmmm...just thinking about that makes me think something wrong with all this.

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wait theres no freedom of speech in egypt?


There is little freedom of speech in america when it comes to hatefull statements.


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How the hell do you stab someone 18 times and another person 3 times + someone else without the officials intervening? I might you're surrounded by the police in there and its not like that can all happen in under 10 seconds. Someone dropped the ball there.

And at the fact that they're saying this is a new outbreak of hatred against Muslims in a community is purely asinine. The actions of one do not represent the sentiments of the community as a whole.

As for marching and protesting what the hell is the point? Trying to get into the media spotlight? It was one guy, if that many people were pissed off they should just lynch him.

Thats just like racism against blacks in America, one person is at fault and everyone starts shitting bricks. Some, not all, of the people marching and getting angry about it on the internet are being just as racist and ignorant as the man who killed the woman.

People should not be coming together to pick it apart as something wrong with the people of Germany, thats racist! Rather they should be coming together to mourn the woman.

TBH its sad that people use the senseless murder of a woman to justify outrage against another group of people -.-


Thing is, I don't think it was 1 person's fault. Besides Alex A who did the stabbing. I think all the officials in charge are to be at fault and should be removed from their positions. No way in hell could a courtroom which always have officers standing by allow a total of 20+ stabs to occur before being stopped. And whoever said it was an "accidental" shot is obviously biased. In that case, you should never use your weapon when a civilian is that close. They should riot as it is obvious that the sentiment felt by Alex was also felt by those in charge of the courtroom.

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He could have jumped at her and commenced stabbing while they were trying to pull him off of her. And im sure other people got stabbed in that process. Her husband was probably also in that pile trying to get the guy off, and thats why he got shot in crossfire.


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Hypocrisy at its best....

We dont know what happened(the whole story). We dont know whats the cause. We saw a newspaper article, thats all.
Just an other day of demagogy and hypocrisy... nothing new.



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Poor womand and her unborn child...

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Stephanus, you always fail when it comes to racial issues.

We know that this whole thing started of with that guy calling her racial names. Her being stabbed has to do with the hate this guy has towards her. It's also a fail of the officials for letting that guy stabbing her, and making it able that this guy could carry a knife into court in the first place. So the situation is clear.

So what exactly do you mean by hipocrisy?

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Stephanus, you always fail when it comes to racial issues.

We know that this whole thing started of with that guy calling her racial names. Her being stabbed has to do with the hate this guy has towards her. It's also a fail of the officials for letting that guy stabbing her, and making it able that this guy could carry a knife into court in the first place. So the situation is clear.

So what exactly do you mean by hipocrisy?


Nope, i dont.
You know what CNN or other newspaper tells you. Thats all.
You believe you know the truth but you dont(me either)
All i did is questioning the way these medias providing information.
Also the reaction in Egypt, etc etc etc...
Whatever happened is we wont know for sure and all what this case was used for was to ignite racism, not to oppose it.
imho.

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