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 Post subject: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:48 am 
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Maybe this is a duplicate thread or you all know it already but...

Have you ever seen this?

This is not punishment. They're dlvling the bots to continue the gold farming.

So, what do you guys think?


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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:56 am 
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

We've all seen that before, but up to now I didn't think much of it as delvling. :oops:

Good point there. Higher lvl gear tends to be expensive, but this way, they can still make a hefty profit and use cheaper gear and pots. And this is a very effecient way to do mass delvling...

I think it's only really dmging to them when they equip their bots with nice stuff or the bot had something good in it's inventory and died while running out. But the odds of that are slim. It's mostly elixirs and return scrolls and pots from what i've heard.

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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I Can't Wait I can do Bot Traps...
Oh and Couldn't be without noticing but why don't u use Spirit assault in Mouse Solt, just click the wheen and you get to the enemy. :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:55 am 
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I think they are idd delvling the bots...But not for their selves but to get the bots below their weps lvl so they wont do any dmg on the mobs.

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Umm bot trap? And why would they dlvl gold bots if they get more money at higher lvls.

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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Mindy wrote:
Umm bot trap? And why would they dlvl gold bots if they get more money at higher lvls.

Certain areas of the map are so crowded and the next levels too by goldbots so the only way to gaingold is by lowering their goldbots levels, they can use higher level skills on same level mobs, its faster, cheaper and that way they dont need to search for new areas (usually goldbots grind at the same spots.

But to get back on topic that is not how gold companies de-level their goldbots, they do it at the other gate and the chars will be naked and only have a weapon to attack, reason why i still strongly believe there is NO WAY an equipped weapon will drop (Shields do but that is another story)


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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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Oh, good points everyone.
I just thought about it and I want to share it with the community.

And yes, I wanted to know how many damage did that bot trap so I step in... less than a second and I was dead. xD

@my personal friend, TheKnight: I use the quick slot for Vigor pots... they come handy at the ctf. ^^
And ty for your words the other day.

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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Wow ive never thought of it like this, and to the people saying why would you want to delevel if you get more money at higher levels.. Lets say a company has 500 goldbots. It cant just have 500 capped bots goldbotting at the same place, they have to spread their bots out on the map so they dont ks each other as much and so they maximize their profit.

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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hwy doomsday, hey shikaze (knight) RAF here, so yeah i use that spell on mouse, as if warriors needed vigors =0) haha btw nice sword, i got all +5 from 68 to 90

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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DragOon wrote:
hwy doomsday, hey shikaze (knight) RAF here, so yeah i use that spell on mouse, as if warriors needed vigors =0) haha btw nice sword, i got all +5 from 68 to 90

Felt to Post here Right Now, cuz not sure can Tsuki Say this but from friday on we both are not able to play for a week, so you're not going to see us...
And You've Nice Sword, I found Lvl 32 +5 Glavie few days ago.
and still on Post: Hope they ban even little more gold bots this week...

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:38 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
I think they are idd delvling the bots...But not for their selves but to get the bots below their weps lvl so they wont do any dmg on the mobs.

good point but the question is - how much lower is the weapon level than the bot's level? If it's 5 levels, this delevelling will take a lot of time.

Here's something you all can do:

http://www.rev6.com/player/<SERVER>/<CHAR>.html

instead of <SERVER> type the server name eg Oasis, and instead of <CHAR> type the char name of some bot you see on the server. This page will show you the lvl and items of that char. Pretty cool if you ask me

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Wow ive never thought of it like this, and to the people saying why would you want to delevel if you get more money at higher levels.. Lets say a company has 500 goldbots. It cant just have 500 capped bots goldbotting at the same place, they have to spread their bots out on the map so they dont ks each other as much and so they maximize their profit.


I think the goldbots did not anticipate other people delevelling them, so delevelling them will make things worse for them. I am sure goldbots work the best when everyone leaves them alone. They probably hunt at gap 9 so they hardly level anyway. I still think delevelling them is better than just leaving them alone.


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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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lol they dont try to delevel the bots but just stop them collecting gold to piss the gold bots off as thats what they are trying to do

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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@RAF, TheKnight: ty about my sword, it's just a +3 with 11 (at lvl 52) and 9 (at lvl 56) critical.

@penfold1992: that day was strange because all the gold bots log in at the same time and they were walking in a straight line to the west gate of Hotan. It was about 20 mins I guess. We were (all my friends) seeing that and we thought it was the end of Iris. After those 20 mins they all disappear and the trader who was doing the trap too. I think it's too much coincidence.

I'm still blind with iSRO, I think I expect some kind of change that would never come.

Edit: RAF, I use the vigors because of wizards. I don't like to get owned by them.

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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When talking about 2h swords... I have all from 56 to 85 at least +5 (few missing), and some +7 (like 85, 56) :P
OT: Good find. But why they dont store their stuffs theN? (Epic loose of money>)

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everyone has So High plusses :(
But I'd Fault bots because you actually can't find any items from 1-6degree from stalls because everyone skips to Lvl 52 atleast...

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@TheKnight: Yes, you're right. BTW, I think the owners of the gold bots are the ones who do stalls with SOX items so they put you in a position where you need to buy gold from those companies.

@panterr: i don't have much money or elixirs to try more than +3. =[
I'd love to have a +5 with 12 as a critical because I've never had one, or even one SOX item. Some ppl told me they're overrated but how can I know if they're overrated if I haven't tried one yet? I'd kick god's butt with such a powerful sword. ^^

Edit: @panterr: dk why they don't store their stuff but they're "tools" of the gold selling companies and they get all the drops and it'd be a waste of time to store all that, better to do it as fast as they can so they don't get caught... In fact, i don't think they lose their stuff because I haven't lose mine, I just lose exp.

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 Post subject: Re: Gold Bot punishment by users... a lie
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Once in a blue moon you will lose an item in your inventory just by dying normally.

Yeah, in my case was it a Lv64+5 xbow(full blue) that a friend just gave to you -_-

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they logged in the same time because its a huge clientless bot.
he left in 20 mins because he got bored.
they left in 20minutes because he stopped killling them and they could walk through

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lol, I think he got bored 2 times then, look at the dates of my pics, same trader.
I wonder if you all do that at lvl 9x when you're bored. xD

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dooms u can use my lvl 72 +5 12 crit when u get there for sure :D

i would have offered the 68 but that only has 10 crit, doesnt meet ur requirements qq

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awwwwwwwwww!

=D.....

Ty Raf!

Edit: Hope you'll still have it at the end of the year. And again, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Edit2: Oh, sorry. I can't accept it. I'm one of those guys who doesn't accept anything I think it's a genetic problem. xD
Seriously, I really appreciate your intentions and being so kind but that's the way I'm. It's a pity because I behave in the same way in RL. Ty again.

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k.. wtf are you talking about.
People do this for fun, because they hate the goldbots. They don't do it to help them.

The reason they were all there in a line for 20 minutes / logged on at same time as you said.. is because once they go back to town they start their loop, die, start loop, die etc. More and more come back to town and get killed.

Most have a 9 gap anyway. Not like they're gaining a few levels a day. 9 gap on blue mobs = slowest leveling ever.

By doing these bot traps the gold companies have less gold than if they were not interrupted at the end of the day.
How much does it hurt them? I don't think anyone knows.. but it definitely doesn't help them.

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doomsday OK since ur not taking them free ill rent them 1 mill gold a month
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k.. wtf are you talking about.
People do this for fun, because they hate the goldbots. They don't do it to help them.

The reason they were all there in a line for 20 minutes / logged on at same time as you said.. is because once they go back to town they start their loop, die, start loop, die etc. More and more come back to town and get killed.

Most have a 9 gap anyway. Not like they're gaining a few levels a day. 9 gap on blue mobs = slowest leveling ever.

By doing these bot traps the gold companies have less gold than if they were not interrupted at the end of the day.
How much does it hurt them? I don't think anyone knows.. but it definitely doesn't help them.


Well, I haven't think about it. I thought the trader was one of the persons who was running the bots.
I just thought it because too many people knows gold bots accepts parties with exp-auto, item-free. Maybe they don't get good exp from regular mobs but what about parties mobs?

OT: the wtf was not necessary i could understand a simple "what are you talking about?". =)
OT2: I'm bored of this topic and I think you all too.

Edit: Raf, BIG LOL, I barely have 1m... yesterday I tried to do +4 because I had 1.8m it took me like 20 elixirs and 1.2m for nothing... the worst part is that my weapon got 3 times +3 but it went back to 0. At least I tried. I'm a poor again. xD

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