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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:31 pm
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Russia-China Warn US That Israeli Attack On Iran Means “World War” Written by Administrator Saturday, 18 July 2009 09:26 A chilling report circulating in the Kremlin today states that President Medvedev and Chinese President Hu have issued an “urgent warning” to the United States that says if the Americans allow an Israeli nuclear attack upon Iran, “World War will be our response”. Fueling Russian and Chinese fears are intelligence reports stating that Israel has moved over three-quarters of its Naval Forces through the Suez Canal and has assembled over 30 of its US-built fighter jets in Kurdistan for a planned attack using American made “bunker busting” bombs and nuclear armed cruise missiles. Russian Military Analysts state in these reports that Israel first plans to use its US-built fighter jets to target Iran’s nuclear facilities, and upon a combined Iranian and Lebanonese Hezbollah “response”, that is said will “rain missiles down upon Israel”, Israeli submarines and surface vessels with unleash nuclear armed cruise missiles against Iran’s military, religious and political infrastructure. Israeli news sources are also confirming Russian and Chinese fears over an attack by their country upon Iran, and as we can read as reported the Haaretz News Service: “Israel's recent deployment of warships across the Red Sea should be seen as serious preparation for an attack on Iran, an Israeli defense official told the Times of London on Thursday. "This is preparation that should be taken seriously. Israel is investing time in preparing itself for the complexity of an attack on Iran. These maneuvers are a message to Iran that Israel will follow up on its threats," the official was quoted as saying.” President Bush had become so alarmed over Israel’s plan to attack Iran that in an unprecedented move, just prior to leaving office, he refused the Israelis “secret request” for 1,000 of the American bunker busting bombs they wanted, but, Israel had obtained 100 of these dreaded weapons in a 2005 deal with the Pentagon. Upon Obama assuming the US Presidency, Israel’s Prime Minister gave the American leader a stark warning that “Either you take care of Iran-quickly-or I will”, a challenge that Obama, while in Russia last week, slapped down by warning that the United States is “absolutely not” giving Israel a green light to attack Iran, a curious statement, however, when viewed in the light of the American Vice President Biden stating just days before that “Israel is free to do whatever it deems necessary to remove the Iranian nuclear threat”. Fueling Russian and Chinese fears over Israel’s planned attack on Iran, these reports continue, is the Jewish states planned use of Iraqi territory from their Kurdistan region which borders Iran, and which this past week furthered its goal to become an independent Nation with the adopting of a new constitution, and with its Israeli trained army can expect an “immediate” invasion from both its sworn enemies Turkey and Iran. Even worse, Syria’s leader has reportedly warned the US that upon Turkey and Iran declaring war upon Kurdistan and Israel it would “no choice” but to honor its defense agreements with the Iranians calling for their Nations to protect each other in times of peril. Further complicating this mess is Turkey’s membership in NATO, and which under that alliances agreement calls for the United States and Europe to join with the Turkish military in fighting against what in essence would be their own allies of Israel and Kurdistan. Not being known to the American people is that while their Military Forces have been fighting in Iraq, the United States and Iran have longstanding agreements allowing the Iranians to shell Iraqi Kurd territory without fear of reprisal, an agreement that also includes Turkey who have battled against the Iraqi Kurds for decades. Most ominously in these reports though, both Russia and China state that they will have “no choice” but to place an “immediate embargo” against any oil and gas coming from the Middle East and weapons to the region the United States may try to supply. China further states in this warning that upon an Israeli attack upon Iran they will “immediately cease” to purchase any more US debt, and with the American deficit hitting $1 Trillion for the first time in their history, and with it expecting to exceed $2 Trillion by the end of the fiscal year on September 30th, a particually grave threat being that China’s $2 Trillion in reserves are the only thing keeping the US economy afloat. Russian Intelligence Analysts further report that the long-serving head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization, Gholam Reza Aghazadeh, resigned today over fears for his and his family’s safety upon an attack by Israel upon the Persian Nation. What is not known at this time, these reports summarize, is if Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system, which the Israelis report has been “successfully tested”, would be able to withstand the estimated 6,000 plus missiles expected to be fired at it by the combined powers of Iran, Syria and Hezbollah. But, to Israeli war leaders believing that upon the conventional destruction of Iran’s nuclear facilities, the Persian Nation will “sue for peace” rather than be hit by nuclear weapons, these reports state, unequivocally, that Iranian leaders are “fully prepared” to engulf the entire World in “brutal fire” rather than to ever “kneel down” before the “Zionists” they have long stated have no right being in the Middle East in the first place. [Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.] [url] http://dprogram.net/2009/07/18/russia-c ... %E2%80%9D/[/url]
I love how China and Russia are bluffing and saying they will stop trading with the US if Israel attacks Iran. IF they do then all 3 of our economies will collapse and in turn so will the world economy because China and the US are the twin engines of the world.
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Post subject: Re: Russia-China warn the US that Israeli attack on Iran....
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:54 pm
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Ryoko wrote:
We need a mass geological event causing most of the middle east to sink under sea level. This will resolve most of the worlds dramatic affairs and cut us off from our oil dependency, forcing us to engineer a new power source.
Of course, this might mean the rest of the world will be covered in sulferic gas and acid rain, and blocked from sunlight for weeks but we'll manage.
Plates move about an inch a year, maybe in a million years that region will have been swallowed anyway.
harsh. I'm personally going to Argentina or Brazil, CARNIVAL baby! Drinkin like it's the end of the world. And if the world ends I'd be too drunk to care lol.
Post subject: Re: Russia-China warn the US that Israeli attack on Iran....
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:01 pm
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Ryoko wrote:
Morgoth wrote:
Blindfire wrote:
People with nukes don't launch them at other people with nukes.
yeah, it's just like the balance of terror during the Cold War
People with nukes shouldnt launch them at anybody, since everybody has allies with more nukes.
^this. Iran doesn't have nukes yet, but it's friends do.
I seriously doubt Israel will do anything, especially not right now with the present situation in Iran. They may be manuevering, they may not. I don't trust your source, since I can't verify this info anywhere else.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:26 pm
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lol twin engine. The new world power is China, enough said. Being communist country they can subject their people to a certain level of living that most US citizens would not be able to tolerate. If China cuts off trade with the US you can bet it will hurt us ALOT more than it would hurt them. Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:35 pm
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wth, every time i read one of these stories it's always from some "no-name" site i've never heard of before. yeah plus iran will probably crumble with this civil dispute so problem solved.
Post subject: Re: Russia-China warn the US that Israeli attack on Iran....
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:17 pm
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I hope Israel does attack Iran.
It'll give us a reason to finally cut the umbilical. Then on the other hand I doubt Obama has the stones to do something like that.
Also, Russia and China are more than big enough world players to have an impact if they decide to stop trading with us. I just find it odd that they both seem to have "teamed up" in this decision. They aren't exactly the best of pals.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:28 pm
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XemnasXD wrote:
Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.
Israel in of it's self hasn't caused many problems. It's the reaction of Israel being in existence that causes nations like Iran and Jordon too b!tch and whine about it. Which causes the problems.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:30 pm
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Reise wrote:
I hope Israel does attack Iran.
It'll give us a reason to finally cut the umbilical. Then on the other hand I doubt Obama has the stones to do something like that.
Also, Russia and China are more than big enough world players to have an impact if they decide to stop trading with us. I just find it odd that they both seem to have "teamed up" in this decision. They aren't exactly the best of pals.
Maybe Joymax changed to chinese owners. That would explain the rSRO and their sudden friendship.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:40 pm
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Reise wrote:
I hope Israel does attack Iran.
It'll give us a reason to finally cut the umbilical. Then on the other hand I doubt Obama has the stones to do something like that.
Also, Russia and China are more than big enough world players to have an impact if they decide to stop trading with us. I just find it odd that they both seem to have "teamed up" in this decision. They aren't exactly the best of pals.
The Chinese and Russians have consistently teamed up together to vote against U.S. sponsored Security Council proposals requiring unanimous consent. They have a common 'enemy' so to speak, in the U.S., unless you forgot who was on the other side of the Cold War? See Wilson's Ghost by MacNamara for a good recollection of what the Cold War means to present day politics, and the ramifications of U.S. actions on the international stage vis a vis Chinese and Russian relations. Basically, when the Cold War ended we proclaimed ourselves the 'winner' and have been parading around snubbing the other 'super powers' whenever we have the chance. He's not quite as blunt as I am, but it's a really good read nonetheless.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:48 pm
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Tasdik wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.
Israel in of it's self hasn't caused many problems. It's the reaction of Israel being in existence that causes nations like Iran and Jordon too b!tch and whine about it. Which causes the problems.
Israel is, was, and will always be, a slap in the face to every middle eastern nation and giant phallic symbol for US international power. Its saying "Look we decide to make a nation in your backyard by taking away land from your neighbors and theres nothing you can do about it because we gave them enough weapons to kick your ass from here to Kingdom Come." Saying that the nation itself hasn't caused many problems ignores the social, political, and ecomic changes that resulted in the very creation of the nation which was sparked by the Jews rebelling against the established gov't of the country they more or less invaded. Don't get me wrong im not anti-semetic at all, Jews actually rank better than modern Muslims or Christians in my book but facts are facts and they've spent the last 6 decades flouting their power and growing in strength while the US send billions of dollars to them to continue to fight this cold war. Its ridiculous.
Reise is right, cut the cord already. They've got legs, guns, tanks, and fighter jets, they can stand up on their own just fine. Theres no need for the US to get dragged into yet another pointless rabble just because Israel wants to prove a point there too much shit going on all over the place for something major to get started now....
As for China and Russia, they follow the enemy of my enemy is my friend policy and have been for some time now. They may not like each other but they like western bullies alot less and both of them have been slandered and made to look like the enemy in the US, makes sense they'd do the same to us.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:04 pm
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XemnasXD wrote:
lol twin engine. The new world power is China, enough said. Being communist country they can subject their people to a certain level of living that most US citizens would not be able to tolerate. If China cuts off trade with the US you can bet it will hurt us ALOT more than it would hurt them. Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.
Americans are some of the biggest spenders ever and most of what we buy comes from China. I wonder how China will fair when they cut off their best customer that makes up most of it's trading revenue.
I agree Israel is a bitch, it's right up there with N.Korea.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:41 pm
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XemnasXD wrote:
lol twin engine. The new world power is China, enough said. Being communist country they can subject their people to a certain level of living that most US citizens would not be able to tolerate. If China cuts off trade with the US you can bet it will hurt us ALOT more than it would hurt them. Israel's been a b*tch ever since the nation was formed causing a shit ton more problems than it solved. I hope they do attack Iran and i hope China and Russia cut off trade with us because it would really show the world what a fragile state the US is in right now.
Americans are some of the biggest spenders ever and most of what we buy comes from China. I wonder how China will fair when they cut off their best customer that makes up most of it's trading revenue.
I agree Israel is a bitch, it's right up there with N.Korea.
That works both ways you know. Americans rely heavily on chinese goods. We're already in a recession, people are scarping the bottom to make ends meet and that means buying cheaper and cheaper products that come from where? Oh yeah, China. If china cuts off trade Wal-mart, Target, Sears, JC Penny, etc basically every store that sells a mostly "made in china" stuff will be out of business. The business go under, jobs are lost, the economy gets even worse. Im sure any losses china sustains they'll be able to deal with, like i said, being communist means they can lay down the law whenever they want and seeing as chinese people's standards of living are so low anyway the loss of the american market will hurt their general population alot less than it would hurt ours. There upper management already have a mentality that they are willing to sustain loses for the greater good, something our industry lacks.
The Chinese gov't fixed their economic problem with guess what, a stimulus package. They gave the corporations billions of dollars and solved it right away, they recognize this is only a temporary fix but my point is they did they same thing we did and they are seeing much better results. The difference here is a mentality and way of life. They have a simple way of life and a loyal corporate mentality, we have a lavish way of life and "take what you can" corporate mentality. This won't be a stalemate, if they decide to go through with this we will suffer far more than they will.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:55 pm
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lavapockets wrote:
The Chinese and Russians have consistently teamed up together to vote against U.S. sponsored Security Council proposals requiring unanimous consent. They have a common 'enemy' so to speak, in the U.S., unless you forgot who was on the other side of the Cold War? See Wilson's Ghost by MacNamara for a good recollection of what the Cold War means to present day politics, and the ramifications of U.S. actions on the international stage vis a vis Chinese and Russian relations. Basically, when the Cold War ended we proclaimed ourselves the 'winner' and have been parading around snubbing the other 'super powers' whenever we have the chance. He's not quite as blunt as I am, but it's a really good read nonetheless.
Yes, I know this.
That doesn't mean they don't hate each other's guts either. China and Russia are pretty much constantly having minor conflicts. Most notably in the sea trade between them.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:17 pm
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You guys seem to forget that the global economy is in fact, global. The world powers are connected to each other, their economies feed each others. Everyone would be hurt by it, including them. Its not like you can shut someone off when you rely on them for trade. Like it or not their are countries who's economy is attached to the US, same is true for the US.
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