Silkroad Online Forums

A community forum for the free online game Silkroad Online. Discuss Silkroad Online, read up on guides, and build your character and skills.

Faq Search Members Chat  Register Profile Login

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:19 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1830
Location: forsaken world
is it pointless to farm this skill?
i havnt been using it and i dont see it as being a big help when i did use it. i see no point in using it when i 2hit the mob or 1-3 hit the enemy in pvp/ctf
should i farm it or no?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:31 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1515
Location: Wherever my mind makes it to be
Can skip it ...poison's mostly a useless skill tree.

_________________
Image
"To gain that which is worth having, it may be necessary to lose everything else."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:40 pm 
Frequent Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1095
Location: PORTUGAL
It's not that big deal in pvp but it's wonderful to kill ctf monsters (especially when they're higher lvl, that extra damage helps a lot) and to ks giants/ party mobs, also helps.

_________________
Currently on EliteSRO

Rogue lvl 5x
Warlock lvl 1x


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:41 pm 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5219
Location: Attending your mothers sexual needs :)
I've never really needed it. So I stopped leveling it at lv40.

_________________
My sig died


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:06 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1830
Location: forsaken world
i have that skill at lvl one
so meh no big deal i guess
i wont lvl it anymore


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:25 pm 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 715
Location:
Azteca
I find it great help in pvp.

_________________
Image
signature made by jaksje


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:33 pm 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 824
Location: Netherlands
dont get it.
sp waste.
imo.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:46 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 205
Location: planet earth
i love it
might be a waste of sp, idk & idc
it's fun to see the poison DoT ticking
it's satisfying to have that tiny bit of damage more
it's fun to see and know that it keeps ticking while you're doing something else than hitting the mob
i haven't done the math and i dont care
but i wouldnt be surprised if it was quite better damage than we imagine

think about it this way, it costs only sp... it adds no time to your attack routine.
so it is basically free damage.
i like poisoning from max range with rapid shot.
it fits daggers just as well : get close, poison, take a hike:)

of course if you start thinking of capping and how much sp-farming time this skill costs at cap... might as well start a new toon, they're funnier:)

my current build takes around 2M sp at cap and i dont get powerfarmed and rarely plvled... think i care?

The game is about having fun, poisoning is fun. Period.

_________________
[GUIDE] How to earn money by buying & reselling : the basics
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=92243


Last edited by Truie on Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:13 am, edited 3 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:27 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 333
Location: Pizza Shop
with poison masteries maxed (dagger ones), vein weapons can reach 900-1k+ poison damage...now that ticks off at least once it procs.

the damage itself is anywhere between 5-10% of your skill damage be it a prick or normal attack etc. etc.

in the long run, it does help in pvp...pve is extremely useful vs giants and party mobs.

_________________
Who's this up-herself-biaaatch I tell ya???
I want some PIZZA *mooch*


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:14 am 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 205
Location: planet earth
If you think this skill is a waste of SP then don't get it because there is an annoying bug associated to it : when you mash your keys like crazy you often get in a state where you can't attack the mob at all until you move you char to another spot then try to attack again.
It happens with the poison skill, when combining it with an attack a bit too rapidly and on a certain timing.
I haven't tested it out to describe its occurence-conditions better but it sure as hell is annoying.
Another note : an interesting property of poison is that its damage is independent from the mob's resistances. A mob my lvl will get as much damage as a mangyang. A mob way above my lvl which i'd be nearly unable to damage with normal attacks will get its full poison DoT damage.

_________________
[GUIDE] How to earn money by buying & reselling : the basics
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=92243


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:40 am 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1830
Location: forsaken world
Truie wrote:
i love it
might be a waste of sp, idk & idc
it's fun to see the poison DoT ticking
it's satisfying to have that tiny bit of damage more
it's fun to see and know that it keeps ticking while you're doing something else than hitting the mob
i haven't done the math and i dont care
but i wouldnt be surprised if it was quite better damage than we imagine


meh in pvp poison is just pilled off
and pve i just 1-2 hit the mob. i dont even have a chance to really use it


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:17 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4737
Location:
Athens
fire/posion status is best vs pt/pt champ/giant/pt giants

normal and champs are too weak.

even as an optional skill i always take it...
though i dont take the (venom/posion) extensions.. 6 seconds are enough for me to poison an enemy.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:55 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 733
Location:
Troy
how much damage per second does poision at lvl 90 make?if its maxed and with the damage increase passive

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:43 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 204
Location: Here
I have vein weapon at lvl 1 just for fun since I don't use it that much.
Also, everyone will pill it off at pvp.
Didn't lvl the passives either.

_________________
PotatoChip


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:53 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 333
Location: Pizza Shop
lopasas wrote:
how much damage per second does poision at lvl 90 make?if its maxed and with the damage increase passive


at lv 90 it does around 750-900~
at lv 100 im guessing it will do about 1.1-1.3k~

and ppl who think that poison is a waste since it can be pilled off in pvp, think about this:

for euros: 96 and 100 skills have an estimate damage difference of about 13-15% increase.

take that to perspective, say you have a rogue skill doing about 10-15k...now with poison proc just once - u are doing extra near ~10% more damage. That's nearly the same as having a 5% boost in your attacks every now and then...and this will give you an edge in pvp so why wouldnt you wanna invest in poison. 8)

_________________
Who's this up-herself-biaaatch I tell ya???
I want some PIZZA *mooch*


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:08 am 
Frequent Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1095
Location: PORTUGAL
Truie wrote:
If you think this skill is a waste of SP then don't get it because there is an annoying bug associated to it : when you mash your keys like crazy you often get in a state where you can't attack the mob at all until you move you char to another spot then try to attack again.
It happens with the poison skill, when combining it with an attack a bit too rapidly and on a certain timing.
I haven't tested it out to describe its occurence-conditions better but it sure as hell is annoying.
Another note : an interesting property of poison is that its damage is independent from the mob's resistances. A mob my lvl will get as much damage as a mangyang. A mob way above my lvl which i'd be nearly unable to damage with normal attacks will get its full poison DoT damage.


that stuck thing is a bug due to the range of the daggers

_________________
Currently on EliteSRO

Rogue lvl 5x
Warlock lvl 1x


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:11 pm 
Ex-Staff
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2364
Location: Everywhere. All the Time... But more specifically, England
one good use for it, is at high lvl, dress up as a L20. then poison someone. watch them suffer with poison of 1/10 their total health :twisted:

_________________
My stories + songs
Story Search: [Story] author Trice
Parody Search: [Parody] author Trice

Image
Image
Ty cin :love:
Sarcasm makes you more attractive to the opposite sex


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:17 am 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1830
Location: forsaken world
i dont want to make another topc cuz its still rogue related
well is spinning still gud after lvl 50?
should i keep lvling it? or is it a w.e skill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:29 am 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 333
Location: Pizza Shop
your normal attack (2hits) does more damage than spinning
so no point learning that skill

_________________
Who's this up-herself-biaaatch I tell ya???
I want some PIZZA *mooch*


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:10 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1830
Location: forsaken world
pizzagirl2008 wrote:
your normal attack (2hits) does more damage than spinning
so no point learning that skill


wow really?
ill dlvl spinning to around lvl 3-4 then
thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:31 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 733
Location:
Troy
antics wrote:
pizzagirl2008 wrote:
your normal attack (2hits) does more damage than spinning
so no point learning that skill


wow really?
ill dlvl spinning to around lvl 3-4 then
thanks

LOL!?
normal hit does more damage than spinning skill? have you ever played daggers? ROFL

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:24 pm 
Senior Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4769
Location:
Off Topic
pizzagirl2008 wrote:
your normal attack (2hits) does more damage than spinning
so no point learning that skill


Daggers work differently;
It has 2 hits in "attack" - each is 50%; two of them make 100%.
Spining's each attack is 87%, but it hits twice.

If you get what I mean? About spining, I think you have better skills to use, if you mix Daggers with Xbow, so dont take it.

_________________
                                                       Image
                                                           Thanks Noobs_Slayer for signature.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:20 pm 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 715
Location:
Azteca
Ok so I was in a pt with a rogue doing ongs (he's lvl 70) he was using daggers and when he was fighting a PTG the poison would do 2k damage every few seconds, so i find it worth it.

_________________
Image
signature made by jaksje


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:38 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1830
Location: forsaken world
iscared wrote:
Ok so I was in a pt with a rogue doing ongs (he's lvl 70) he was using daggers and when he was fighting a PTG the poison would do 2k damage every few seconds, so i find it worth it.


yea lvl 70 killing lvl 32 mobs. when im one hitting mobs my lvl. i wont see the damage at all. so for me its kinda usless

Nitro wrote:
pizzagirl2008 wrote:
your normal attack (2hits) does more damage than spinning
so no point learning that skill


Daggers work differently;
It has 2 hits in "attack" - each is 50%; two of them make 100%.
Spining's each attack is 87%, but it hits twice.

If you get what I mean? About spining, I think you have better skills to use, if you mix Daggers with Xbow, so dont take it.


so spinning isnt crucial... meh ill dlvl it to a certain lvl


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:55 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 715
Location:
Azteca
Yes but it's great on giants and party mobs.

_________________
Image
signature made by jaksje


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: poison/vein waepon
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:12 pm 
Valued Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 380
Location: here
No one talking about MP usage?

It might do a bit more of damage when you use it, but Vein Weapon use too much MP imo for what it does.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group