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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:23 pm 
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As if Americans can't be Hispanic or Turkish?


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quite a bit of american players insult other races... often... thus karma comes and all americans get to pay the price, etc. just like what happened to the turkish players lol


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quite a bit of american players insult other races... often... thus karma comes and all americans get to pay the price, etc. just like what happened to the turkish players lol


...and innocent americans (some not all) are having to constently defend themselves from other races. It's a vicious cycle that we can do nothing about. SOOOOO lets just get along.

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quite a bit of american players insult other races... often... thus karma comes and all americans get to pay the price, etc. just like what happened to the turkish players lol


...and innocent americans (some not all) are having to constently defend themselves from other races. It's a vicious cycle that we can do nothing about. SOOOOO lets just get along.

yah thats what i meant when i was saying that =P


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be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,
2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........


Most points are wrong.

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As if Americans can't be Hispanic or Turkish?

By Hispanic, I meant, that the party usually consists of people that speak predominantly spanish and live in central america/south america. When I ask them where they are from, they say venezuela, ecuador, argentina, etc. By Turkish, I meant that the party usually consists of people that speak predominantly turkish. When I ask them where they are from, they say Turkey.

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If u were in a full american party, and some foreign guy joins the party who doesn't speak english, would u not ban him?

What goes around comes back around

No... If this is what a lot of american players have been doing to foreigners in parties I can see where this would cause many non-english speakers to resent americans. I don't kick anyone in my party if they know what they are doing and not leeching, regardless of where they are from. It just irks me when you are in a perfectly good party(very rare on venus) and then it ends up like :

Player : turkmusun?
me : oh no, I speak english
Player : where are you from?
me : I'm from the US.
Player : you amarican?
me: yes :D
*you have been banned from party*


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P.S.: America is not a country, it's a continent divided into NORTH, CENTRAL AND SOUTH America ;)



Citizens of the United States of America are Americans.

+1 I have never heard anyone from a country other than the US say they are American.

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I think this is a good thing. Did I see one single post about turks not getting into or getting kicked out of parties? No! This while im for sure it happens a lot. Stop nagging y'all deserve it, your not all that because yer from the states.

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The ratio of Americans (even added with canadians) to others must be 1:10000 in this game and yet still this shit happens..

Most people bring it upon themselves but jeez..


and anyone who lives in any america is american hence the name. The fact that most people of the U.S. are only referred to as american is not relevant to the fact that anyone who lives here is actually american..

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your not all that because yer from the states.


...and americans are the racist ones. pffffff

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The ratio of Americans (even added with canadians) to others must be 1:10000 in this game and yet still this shit happens..

Most people bring it upon themselves but jeez..


and anyone who lives in any america is american hence the name. The fact that most people of the U.S. are only referred to as american is not relevant to the fact that anyone who lives here is actually american..


LOL you just blew my mind.

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Then you're all good with your nationality. What I talk about is North Americans thinking America is a country and not a continent. Of course I'm pro people using their nationalities better :)


do you what your talking about? what does USA stand for uhmmm..... United States of AMERICA, yes if you are from the USA you are American, if you are from Canada you are Canadian, if you are from Mexico, let me take a poke at this one, I'm guuessing your are Mexican? how about Brazil, would they say their American or Brazilian?

Better point, if you are are an Indian you are refered to as a Native American

from the Dictionary
American(s) may refer to: A citizen or something of or from the United States

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Most Egyptian and Turkish players don't like American players..


wow really? I did not see this coming especially considering the fact that most Americans absolutely love and cherish Turkish and Egyptian players!

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be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,
2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........


Most points are wrong.


Offtopic: I m not really offending anyone, but Israel is one of the world's major problems, we all know the story and this isn't a place to discuss politics anyways.

Ontopic: Nah, I haven't seen this during my playing time, I usually play around many American players, my guildmates are mostly American people,I am from Egypt, have never done or been told about that. :)

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Most Egyptian and Turkish players don't like American players..


wow really? I did not see this coming especially considering the fact that most Americans absolutely love and cherish Turkish and Egyptian players!

There should be a way to fix this sentiment somehow. Especially in this online game, where everyone is supposed to be somewhat equal and you don't have the divisions of social classes, we shouldn't be hating on each other.

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If u were in a full american party, and some foreign guy joins the party who doesn't speak english, would u not ban him?

What goes around comes back around


As long as they know what they're doing, why should one kick them? (Strictly speaking of 8/8 pts) If they don't know what they're doing, or just sits there getting plvled, then I see no reason as to not kick them.

I didn't say i did that :roll:. What I meant was, most people would rather party with people that can speak their own language, cuz its easier to communicate. if there is an american in a full-french party (who don't speak english at all), the american will know shit about what the french are talking about like if they are telling the american to switch to cleric/move to a diff spot, so the american looks like a fool. Having the same language speakers in your party usually makes the party more efficient.

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P.S.: America is not a country, it's a continent divided into NORTH, CENTRAL AND SOUTH America ;)



Citizens of the United States of America are Americans.


Yes, and so are citizes of every other single country of this continent, but nearly 95% of all North Americans I have talked to think it's a joke and only they're Americans.

Actually, most of the people I know that refer to the US as "America" are foreigners. Most people from the US refer to usa as united states or the US. People of the US are referred to as Americans cuz the USA is called united states of AMERICA.
A Brazilian wont call themselves a American because there is no continent called america, they'd call themselves south americans. A indian can call themselves south asian and asian because south asian is in asia, while a south american cant do the same cuz south america is its own continent. America =/= continent, its landmass, like euro-afro-sia

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do you what your talking about? what does USA stand for uhmmm..... United States of AMERICA, yes if you are from the USA you are American, if you are from Canada you are Canadian, if you are from Mexico, let me take a poke at this one, I'm guuessing your are Mexican? how about Brazil, would they say their American or Brazilian?

Better point, if you are are an Indian you are refered to as a Native American

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American(s) may refer to: A citizen or something of or from the United States


The nationality is North American, not American. I have seen words added to many dictionaries just because they're used a lot, but oh well, I guess whoever decides upon laguge goes with the masses (From that dictionary example). People from Canada are Canadians but also Americans. It's like saying English people are not Europians xD

With the last part you made my point. A Brazilian wouldn't call himself American, but Brazilian (His nationality). A North American shouldn't call himself American, but North American (His nationality) ;)

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Actually, most of the people I know that refer to the US as "America" are foreigners. Most people from the US refer to usa as united states or the US. People of the US are referred to as Americans cuz the USA is called united states of AMERICA.
A Brazilian wont call themselves a American because there is no continent called america, they'd call themselves south americans. A indian can call themselves south asian and asian because south asian is in asia, while a south american cant do the same cuz south america is its own continent. America =/= continent, its landmass, like euro-afro-sia


My point is not about North Americans not being Americans. My point is about North Americans thinking only they are Americans, and that America is a country, not a continent. And yes, quoting exactly I have been told "America is a country not a continent you fck** idiot. We rule you all and you're just pieces of sh*t", with those exact words and not exactly from only one person :)

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On my server i have met only 2 americans O.o ... idk if it's me or the server, but i really don't know many. And i have never heard of them for problems with parties or whatever. One of them had magic pop sun staff and he was one of the friendliest and coolest people on the server, everyone liked him. So at least on my server, i have never heard about problems with Americans and parties...

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OnT: I think they just want entire sro for themselves and want us out.

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I wasn't a big fan of USA until just 6months~1 year ago. I didn't hate it but I didn't like how we got into so many wars, but I soon realized I was wrong, and just being mislead. America has saved most of Europe from Nazi as people pointed out before and saved the way the world might have been. Just think about what would happen if Hitler got power? No Jews, blacks, for sure but lots of others would die too. There were so many situations America helped but almost no countries thank us for it!!!! Some even start complaining. I really do think America should stop trying to help these kind of countries and let them complain after.

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I have just realized I might have gone a little (a lot) off topic lol. I have never ever seen any North American being kicked out of a party I'm part of just because of their nationality.

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My point is not about North Americans not being Americans. My point is about North Americans thinking only they are Americans, and that America is a country, not a continent. And yes, quoting exactly I have been told "America is a country not a continent you fck** idiot. We rule you all and you're just pieces of sh*t", with those exact words and not exactly from only one person :)

Then those are some ignorant people ;]

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Then you're all good with your nationality. What I talk about is North Americans thinking America is a country and not a continent. Of course I'm pro people using their nationalities better :)


do you what your talking about? what does USA stand for uhmmm..... United States of AMERICA, yes if you are from the USA you are American, if you are from Canada you are Canadian, if you are from Mexico, let me take a poke at this one, I'm guuessing your are Mexican? how about Brazil, would they say their American or Brazilian?

Better point, if you are are an Indian you are refered to as a Native American

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Oh? Last time I checked i'm not from India. Dumbass Christopher Columbus :x
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I've never heard of any person from South America or Central America call themselves an American. Only heard that in "Proud to be an American".

People from South American call themselves by whatever country they're from. Brazilians come from Brazil, Chileans come from Chile, etc. Same for Central America, Panamanians come from Panama, Hondurans come from Honduras.

USA is United States of AMERICA, hence we call ourselves AMERICAN.

Like I've said, I've never heard of anyone outside of US calling themselves an American.


I really could give less of a shit of ppl in SRO considering 90% of the population that plays the game haven't had their balls dropped.

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be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,
2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........

I disagree, if it wasn't for the USA things would be very different. Some of these may be viewed as bad now, but if it were to actually have happened, things would be much the same if not better than they are at the moment.

1.) Madagascar Plan would have been done, holocaust may not have happened and a Jewish state would have been created (sure on a random island, but better than nothing) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan)
2.) Kuwait was unrecognised as a province of Iraq by the UN, a different country (probably even Nazi Germany) would have stepped in. It is also possible that with no USA, there would still be the Ottoman Empire or one large Islamic state.
3.) Unified Korea, a bad thing? This would not have happened anyway, if Nazi Germany wasn't stopped the technological advancements would have been incredible. Russia's (captured) German engineers and the other captured German engineers would be working together with the British engineers, ofcourse since there is no USA all USA engineers are British engineers. Nazi Germany's "enemies" were Jewish people and communists. There would be a unified democratic Korea and very likely to be one democratic china - no Taiwan. No Soviet Union, no USA - no cold war.
4.) Jewish people are already in Madagascar.
5.)All the wars invovling muslim terrorists often happen because of USA, these wouldn't happen.

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okay guys. more likely than not its a language thing, just as when your grinding in an english speaking party, and some turk comes in being like slm anni skitim blah blah blah, and you cant understand them, then your probobly gona kick them out, cause a party requires good comunication especialy when your in an 8man and party giants are spawning every 10 seconds, dont be so quick to jump to racisim, or whatever, cause its probobly not.

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I've been playing on Venus lately. I noticed that if I join a party that is predominantly turkish or hispanic and they find out I'm an american, they will kick me from party. I will be talking with them normally if they do speak english up until the point I mention where I am from.

Has anyone ever had this happen to you and why do you think this happens? It totally sucks because there are only so few useful english-speaking players willing to party :(


haha that's weird
I think that happens because the damned of the earth are taking their long expected revenge:)
I've been kicked once or twice out of turkish parties. No big loss lol.
As for spanish ones, i speak enough portuguese to get by.
So my advice... learn spanish !
And dont forget the german, russian, and all great people who are very close knit and biding their time.
they make no noise but boy are they active (the german).
on venus they've always been the kings of the bot traps, even during the glory days of the "legits".

i have no surprise in hearing that the turkish and the spanish are shunning the americans. Basically these people are american's human toilets inside (the spanish speakers) and outside (the muslims).
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1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,


LOL
you're in 2009 dude, and you have an internet access.
May I suggest you using it better to inform yourselves and debunk these myths?

Hitler was supported before and during the war by wall street and standard oil. Where did the nazis get their oil to run the blitzkrieg with? They dont have oil fields in germany. Did they get it from the russians? no. They got it from the united states, believe it or not. Even the trucks were american, and the truck engines were the same in america, germany and russia lol

look up anthony c. sutton : "wall street and the rise of hitler". It is published in full on the web.

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2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........


Most points are wrong.


More than wrong : purposely misleading and misrepresenting. The USA has been installing dictatorships and destroying people-supported regimes all over the world since WW2 and before. Hundreds of them.
Basically the USA are the armed and visible arm of the world's empire which is centered in europe.
Britain's empire is still alive and strong, but Britain has set up the USA as a visible center of power to take the blame in its place. The USA are the emperor's pitbull.
The bullshit about it being a freedom-bringing country is getting so old it's painful. Open your eyes.

i guess this should be taken to the off topic lounge:)

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be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,


LOL
you're in 2009 dude, and you have an internet access.
May I suggest you using it better to inform yourselves and debunk these myths?

Hitler was supported before and during the war by wall street and standard oil. Where did the nazis get their oil to run the blitzkrieg with? They dont have oil fields in germany. Did they get it from the russians? no. They got it from the united states, believe it or not. Even the trucks were american, and the truck engines were the same in america, germany and russia lol

look up anthony c. sutton : "wall street and the rise of hitler". It is published in full on the web here : http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

you even have him on video:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=116990&start=30

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2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........

Most points are wrong.


More than wrong : purposely misleading and misrepresenting. The USA has been installing dictatorships and destroying people-supported regimes all over the world since WW2 and before. Hundreds of them.
Basically the USA are the armed and visible arm of the world's empire which is centered in europe.
Britain's empire is still alive and strong, but Britain has set up the USA as a visible center of power to take the blame in its place. The USA are the emperor's pitbull.
The bullshit about it being a freedom-bringing country is getting so old it's painful. Open your eyes.

i guess this should be taken to the off topic lounge:)

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