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 Post subject: The Great Vampire Debate
PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:06 pm 
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Say you have a Vampire.
He is Jewish.
Would the vampire be afraid of the cross, or the star of david?

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Say you have a Vampire.
He is Jewish.
Would the vampire be afraid of the cross, or the star of david?


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:42 pm 
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I'm pretty sure vampires wouldn't have a religion...

Why would a vampire believe in a god and then be afraid of it's holy power =o

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I'm pretty sure vampires wouldn't have a religion...

Why would a vampire believe in a god and then be afraid of it's holy power =o


perhaps it is not fear of gods powers, but fear of the powers that humans would be able to call upon when they think god is on their side.

Willpower > Vampire?

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Kraq wrote:
I'm pretty sure vampires wouldn't have a religion...

Why would a vampire believe in a god and then be afraid of it's holy power =o

If you've seen vampire movies you'll see their afraid of crosses.. for some reason.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Kraq wrote:
I'm pretty sure vampires wouldn't have a religion...

Why would a vampire believe in a god and then be afraid of it's holy power =o


perhaps it is not fear of gods powers, but fear of the powers that humans would be able to call upon when they think god is on their side.

Willpower > Vampire?



Zombie > Willpower

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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poehalcho wrote:
Kraq wrote:
I'm pretty sure vampires wouldn't have a religion...

Why would a vampire believe in a god and then be afraid of it's holy power =o


perhaps it is not fear of gods powers, but fear of the powers that humans would be able to call upon when they think god is on their side.

Willpower > Vampire?



Zombie > Willpower

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Vampires don't even exist, meaning that people made them up, meaning that anyone can shape them the way they want.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Vampires don't even exist, meaning that people made them up, meaning that anyone can shape them the way they want.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Squirt wrote:
If you've seen vampire movies you'll see their afraid of crosses.. for some reason.


Not so recently. The traditional traits of the European vampire has been broken so many times. Crosses and holy water do not work on vampires in the Blade series. Anne Rice's vampires do not make other vampires from bites alone. Others add back reflection on mirrors. Others remove their susceptibility to sunlight and add glitters. Others make them pale, or dark, or with crazy superpowers. Some even go so far to make them completely immortal.

It's fiction. What do you expect?


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Been watching TMZ?

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Been watching TMZ?

:roll:

(Yeah, I leave my TV on while I'm my computer)

Nope, stumbled upon a yahoo answer question.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Squirt wrote:
Kraq wrote:
I'm pretty sure vampires wouldn't have a religion...

Why would a vampire believe in a god and then be afraid of it's holy power =o

If you've seen vampire movies you'll see their afraid of crosses.. for some reason.

I'm think the reason the old movies made em hurt by crosses was because they were evil creatures of hell, and its a holy thing of god or w/e ¬.¬.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Simon Belmont beats Dracula's ass with a good ol whip.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Vampires were scared of the cross because they were originally the son of the devil, or demons. The cross represented the power of god. So yeah.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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vampires as we know them are a reletivly modern thing which became popular in the 18th century, vampires are present in all know civilisations in some form they are speculated to date back as far as prehistoric times.

The cross has nothing to do with them what so ever as they pre-date religion so to speak the belief systems back then where basic a way to compensate for the unknowns non the less thought id bring this to light. pays to do a bit of research

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Screw the Belmonts. Them and their limp weaponry.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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Why would a Jew or a Vampire be afraid of the Star of Daivd???


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wtf is a star of david?

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The Star of David or Shield of David is a generally recognized symbol of Jewish identity and Judaism. It is named after King David of ancient Israel; and its earliest known communal usage began in the Middle Ages alongside the more ancient symbol of the menorah. Geometrically it is the hexagram.

With the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 the Star of David on the Flag of Israel has also become a symbol of Israel and has become associated with the Zionist movement.
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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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and why would a vampire be afraid of that star?

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and why would a vampire be afraid of that star?


IDK that was my question too. :D


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and why would a vampire be afraid of that star?

cuz david beckham would shoot a ball in ur a-hole

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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and why would a vampire be afraid of that star?

cuz david beckham would shoot a ball in ur a-hole

how? can you show me? :shock:

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GaRiTaX wrote:
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and why would a vampire be afraid of that star?

cuz david beckham would shoot a ball in ur a-hole

how? can you show me? :shock:

i know u want a david beckham's star in ur ass.. but i cant show u sorry..

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Vampire Debate
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The star of david because it was what he held as sacred. Different cultures had different vampiric myths.

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http://www.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/Shokel/ ... pires.html
Somewhat interesting read about Jewish lore about vampires.

I think vampires are probably just demons that have taken human form or humans that have had their souls corrupted by demons. A vampire would be Jewish only because it allows for easier concealment inside human society, like a wolf wearing sheep's clothing. They would probably have a higher chance of surviving these days since there aren't many vampire hunters left anymore. It's unlikely that symbols created by humans would have any effect on them, unless there is some sort of power behind that symbol.

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