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Which side do you 'favor' in the Israel - Palestina conflict?
Israel 35%  35%  [ 22 ]
Palestine 65%  65%  [ 41 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:16 am 
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I just think they could have taken a bit more time to think of the consequences.

Sure it's easy to say that both having not been there and years after the fact, but I think if they really wanted to be safe they wouldn't have agreed to such conditions knowing it would cause such conflict.

I think they knew they could rely on the early UN to support them, and that's where a lot of the anger came from.


I see what you're saying, but actually, if you put it like this, it would make it impossible to not side with Israel. It's not a matter of not thinking of consequences, it's the rational (im)maturity of the governments, civilians, and radical groups in the Middle East. It shows how radicals should not be able to control governments, and interference from more developed countries must be present, and these juvenile conflicts must stop. However, looking at the roots, the problems simply started from immediate attack from Palestinians and others.

Wha wha whaat? Explain now how you get to that conclusion.

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It's not just the actions of the radicals, the people who were there had been in control of that land for more than a thousand years.

It'd be like having the UN up and decide the western United States is suddenly property of Central and South America because it was in control of their distant ancestors at one point.

You'd be a little miffed, too.

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Terrorism? Hypothetically speaking, If some group of asshole superpowers arbitrarily decided to make another country smack dab in the middle of the US paint me red-white-and-blue and call me a terrorist because I'll be damned if I let them get away with it. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, I sympathize with Palestine and don't think America should subsidize warmongers.
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Is this a JOKE of a thread. :nowant:
for a country that was placed there, a very small portion nonetheless, and just sit there and let themselves get destroyed? Are you retarded? It's not Israel's fault that they were put there


i could care no less if it was your fault or not you got placed there. if you invade my country and claim it for your own, i'd rocket your cities every f*cking day. i'd kill your people, until you f*cking get out. go find your land somewhere else.

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Is this a JOKE of a thread. :nowant:
for a country that was placed there, a very small portion nonetheless, and just sit there and let themselves get destroyed? Are you retarded? It's not Israel's fault that they were put there


i could care no less if it was your fault or not you got placed there. if you invade my country and claim it for your own, i'd rocket your cities every f*cking day. i'd kill your people, until you f*cking get out. go find your land somewhere else.


k, but then don't QQ when you find out they have bigger laserz and have no problem in rolling a tank through your living room

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Is this a JOKE of a thread. :nowant:
for a country that was placed there, a very small portion nonetheless, and just sit there and let themselves get destroyed? Are you retarded? It's not Israel's fault that they were put there


i could care no less if it was your fault or not you got placed there. if you invade my country and claim it for your own, i'd rocket your cities every f*cking day. i'd kill your people, until you f*cking get out. go find your land somewhere else.


k, but then don't QQ when you find out they have bigger laserz and have no problem in rolling a tank through your living room


no one is QQ'ing, but it's not fair that Israël is being backed up by the U.S., while Palestine has do it on it's own. the only reason Israël is tough enough to ''roll a tank through my living room'' is because they are backed up by the U.S.

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no one is QQ'ing, but it's not fair that Israël is being backed up by the U.S., while Palestine has do it on it's own. the only reason Israël is tough enough to ''roll a tank through my living room'' is because they are backed up by the U.S.


Like I said, bigger laserz. It doesn't matter where they got them from, what matters is the pew pew.

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In war, there is no definition of right or wrong. Palestinian will say they are right. Israelian will say they are right.
For example, a emperor Qin of China used war to unite small pieces of china land together. In that century, some might say he was evil and wrong because he declared war, killed many children and woman; some might say he was right because he helped china to join together therefore give peace for his people. The chinese nowadays probably look at him as a hero rather than a tyrant.
If someday, the US invades and destroys all countries in this planet, you'd probably say they are wicked; but many generation later, people would see it as a good thing.

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It's not just the actions of the radicals, the people who were there had been in control of that land for more than a thousand years.

It'd be like having the UN up and decide the western United States is suddenly property of Central and South America because it was in control of their distant ancestors at one point.

You'd be a little miffed, too.


Ok miffed is a word that doesn't nearly describe what people in the middle east have undergone. Bombing from schools, cowardly, and pathetic. So if someone had settled in California, and people had to move, no I would not bomb them, start wars, and make threats to nuke them.

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i could care no less if it was your fault or not you got placed there. if you invade my country and claim it for your own, i'd rocket your cities every f*cking day. i'd kill your people, until you f*cking get out. go find your land somewhere else.


k, but then don't QQ when you find out they have bigger laserz and have no problem in rolling a tank through your living room


no one is QQ'ing, but it's not fair that Israël is being backed up by the U.S., while Palestine has do it on it's own. the only reason Israël is tough enough to ''roll a tank through my living room'' is because they are backed up by the U.S.


Palestine do it on its own HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry double post, but I just read this and laughed. We gave them SO MANY billions of dollars. Along with drugs they fund, so please stfu, and stop QQing when they dont let themselves get rocketed to oblivion. An invade is not the correct word, how about being placed away from antisemites like yourself.

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Palestine do it on its own HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry double post, but I just read this and laughed. We gave them SO MANY billions of dollars. Along with drugs they fund, so please stfu, and stop QQing when they dont let themselves get rocketed to oblivion. An invade is not the correct word, how about being placed away from antisemites like yourself.


Billions? Not even close
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
If your too lazy to click, the total financial aid given to Palestinians is 225 million dollars over the course after the war started.

OT: Palestine no doubt. My family used to be one of the upper class families in Ghaza, but after their homes were bulldozed, the Israelis placed them in one of the refugee camps in Jordan.

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Palestine do it on its own HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry double post, but I just read this and laughed. We gave them SO MANY billions of dollars. Along with drugs they fund, so please stfu, and stop QQing when they dont let themselves get rocketed to oblivion. An invade is not the correct word, how about being placed away from antisemites like yourself.


Billions? Not even close
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
If your too lazy to click, the total financial aid given to Palestinians is 225 million dollars over the course after the war started.

OT: Palestine no doubt. My family used to be one of the upper class families in Ghaza, but after their homes were bulldozed, the Israelis placed them in one of the refugee camps in Jordan.


Oh ya, you are right I forgot that drugs that are created in Palestinian areas don't count, in addition to aid. Nevertheless, all the money went to guns and rockets, and of course diplomacy doesn't work, (/sarcasm) and they have to fire rockets, but when they get their asses beaten back, oh my god it's instantly israel's fault. Just grow up, and if anyone here actually believes in religion and fighting and this retarded fight, you should honestly rethink your life.

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McLovin1t wrote:
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Palestine do it on its own HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry double post, but I just read this and laughed. We gave them SO MANY billions of dollars. Along with drugs they fund, so please stfu, and stop QQing when they dont let themselves get rocketed to oblivion. An invade is not the correct word, how about being placed away from antisemites like yourself.


Billions? Not even close
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
If your too lazy to click, the total financial aid given to Palestinians is 225 million dollars over the course after the war started.

OT: Palestine no doubt. My family used to be one of the upper class families in Ghaza, but after their homes were bulldozed, the Israelis placed them in one of the refugee camps in Jordan.


Oh ya, you are right I forgot that drugs that are created in Palestinian areas don't count, in addition to aid. Nevertheless, all the money went to guns and rockets, and of course diplomacy doesn't work, (/sarcasm) and they have to fire rockets, but when they get their asses beaten back, oh my god it's instantly israel's fault. Just grow up, and if anyone here actually believes in religion and fighting and this retarded fight, you should honestly rethink your life.


Those rockets they throw are home-made trash. I don't think I have heard of even ONE injury from these rockets they are throwing, and if they were injured, it was very light injuries.
Drugs? If someone gets caught in Palestine selling drugs they are instantly killed, while here in America we get a slap on the wrist.

http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/12 ... -problems/
Please just do us all a favor and stop pulling facts out of your ass.

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Billions? Not even close
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
If your too lazy to click, the total financial aid given to Palestinians is 225 million dollars over the course after the war started.

OT: Palestine no doubt. My family used to be one of the upper class families in Ghaza, but after their homes were bulldozed, the Israelis placed them in one of the refugee camps in Jordan.


Oh ya, you are right I forgot that drugs that are created in Palestinian areas don't count, in addition to aid. Nevertheless, all the money went to guns and rockets, and of course diplomacy doesn't work, (/sarcasm) and they have to fire rockets, but when they get their asses beaten back, oh my god it's instantly israel's fault. Just grow up, and if anyone here actually believes in religion and fighting and this retarded fight, you should honestly rethink your life.


Those rockets they throw are home-made trash. I don't think I have heard of even ONE injury from these rockets they are throwing, and if they were injured, it was very light injuries.
Drugs? If someone gets caught in Palestine selling drugs they are instantly killed, while here in America we get a slap on the wrist.

http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/12 ... -problems/
Please just do us all a favor and stop pulling facts out of your ass.

Where am I pulling facts out of my ass, I am just wondering, please tell me? And ONE injury from rockets, honestly I cannot even talk to you anymore, please GTFO. Look up some fking injuries for fking sakes. Go to the summer of 2006 in Israel, check out the death toll, come back.
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Ok miffed is a word that doesn't nearly describe what people in the middle east have undergone. Bombing from schools, cowardly, and pathetic. So if someone had settled in California, and people had to move, no I would not bomb them, start wars, and make threats to nuke them.


I probably would.

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Ok miffed is a word that doesn't nearly describe what people in the middle east have undergone. Bombing from schools, cowardly, and pathetic. So if someone had settled in California, and people had to move, no I would not bomb them, start wars, and make threats to nuke them.


I probably would.


Well then you sir should go to some sort of facility.

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It's not that we dont like Catholics,we just dont believe that Jesus was the son of god :slap:


I'm not going tell you in what you should believe in, When we say son it means he is god himself on earth, father gives a part of him self to his son, thats what Jesus is part of him, there more in god in jesus that there is in us cuz ofc we are his children also we are all brothers right? at the end We all 3(Christians, Muslims and Jews) beleive in the same God, i just dont get the point of this bs 1000years old war(hate) between you two, for what i read and correct me if im wrong, but dosent say if your not muslim you should die? isnt that the whoel idea of Terrorist, dont get me wrong we Christians were Terrorits between 1200-1600(Templars and Spanish monks) become or die same as what you guys are doing now, and thats what i dont get whats the whole point? If god dosnt let us choose on our own whats the point in believeing in him? In my free choose i believe in god and Jesus and nobody is going stop me.

Your war between you two just a waste of our time! cuz at the end we unforntaly Christians(which right now i think god made us to keep a balance between you two) are going be stuck in the middle of it!

Btw if God tells you to kill his children he isnt God!


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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... UPFjmpnxuO

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I know we got alot incomon, sense our Bible half of it same as theirs and Jesus was a Jew but still we are differnt we dont have a problem kicking ass they do!

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Where am I pulling facts out of my ass, I am just wondering, please tell me? And ONE injury from rockets, honestly I cannot even talk to you anymore, please GTFO. Look up some fking injuries for fking sakes. Go to the summer of 2006 in Israel, check out the death toll, come back.
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I already proved you made up two of the main facts that held your argument together, which is where the pulling of facts out of your ass occurred if you needed me to clarify.

There were 2 campaigns started by Israel in the summer of '06. The Lebanese and the Gazan campaign.

The one that your probably thinking of was the Lebanese campaign and was done by underground organizations in Lebanon called Hezbollah. They have no affiliation (other then in words) whatsoever with Palestine, so this is a moot point.

The Gazan campaign was a war instigated by Israel to try and get rid of Hamas. Was a failure.

The causualties from Israel

5 soldiers killed
38 soldiers wounded
1 soldier captured
2 civilians killed
44 civilians injured

None of these were from the rockets that you seem to claim injure hundreds everyday, but in retaliation to the Israeli aggression.

The casualties from Gaza

277 militants killed
117 civilians killed
6 policemen killed
2 Presidential Guards killed
~1,000 civilians injured

There simply is no comparison whatsoever.

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The causualties from Israel

5 soldiers killed
38 soldiers wounded
1 soldier captured
2 civilians killed
44 civilians injured

None of these were from the rockets that you seem to claim injure hundreds everyday, but in retaliation to the Israeli aggression.

The casualties from Gaza

277 militants killed
117 civilians killed
6 policemen killed
2 Presidential Guards killed
~1,000 civilians injured

There simply is no comparison whatsoever.


So your saying is, Jews quit deffend your selfs let us kill you? where you from again?

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The causualties from Israel

5 soldiers killed
38 soldiers wounded
1 soldier captured
2 civilians killed
44 civilians injured

None of these were from the rockets that you seem to claim injure hundreds everyday, but in retaliation to the Israeli aggression.

The casualties from Gaza

277 militants killed
117 civilians killed
6 policemen killed
2 Presidential Guards killed
~1,000 civilians injured

There simply is no comparison whatsoever.


So your saying is, Jews quit deffend your selfs let us kill you? where you from again?


No. There are 0 casualties from the Israeli side when they do not try to start an invasion.

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Aye yo, "antisemitic" is so not a valid argument as Arabs are Semitic. Prove me wrong, dawg.

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It's not just the actions of the radicals, the people who were there had been in control of that land for more than a thousand years.

It'd be like having the UN up and decide the western United States is suddenly property of Central and South America because it was in control of their distant ancestors at one point.

You'd be a little miffed, too.


Ok miffed is a word that doesn't nearly describe what people in the middle east have undergone. Bombing from schools, cowardly, and pathetic. So if someone had settled in California, and people had to move, no I would not bomb them, start wars, and make threats to nuke them.


So some people decide your land now belongs to group "X" because group "X" lived there thousands of years ago, and group "X" starts trying to force you out by any means necessary and you're just going to roll over? Lol. :slap:

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No. There are 0 casualties from the Israeli side when they do not try to start an invasion.


Thats cuz they dont start shit they get shit on!

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topic should be locked already..
anyways for sure Palestine..
who is dieing?
who is losing his earth?
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call Hamas a "defending group", instead of terrorist.

Israel lands are actually for Palestine, they took it.
lock pl0x.

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I blame the turks.

gtfo kid, kids like you ruin threads like this. fking sro addict nob :banghead:

Dude, seriously .. stfu. I put $100 that you are some fat fuck who sits on their computer / gaming console all day long, without a life talking to their only, online 'friends'. Also, how do you know I play silkroad dipshit ?

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Kah00ner wrote:
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I blame the turks.

gtfo kid, kids like you ruin threads like this. fking sro addict nob :banghead:

Dude, seriously .. stfu. I put $100 that you are some fat fuck who sits on their computer / gaming console all day long, without a life talking to their only, online 'friends'. Also, how do you know I play silkroad dipshit ?

Get a life fucktard n don't talk to me. Ever.


and that makes you the guy who goes online to argue with the "fat fuck who sits on their computer / gaming console all day long, without a life talking to their only, online 'friends'."...

now which is more foolish...the Fool...or the fool who follows him...

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I blame the turks.

gtfo kid, kids like you ruin threads like this. fking sro addict nob :banghead:

Dude, seriously .. stfu. I put $100 that you are some fat fuck who sits on their computer / gaming console all day long, without a life talking to their only, online 'friends'. Also, how do you know I play silkroad dipshit ?

Get a life fucktard n don't talk to me. Ever.

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Palestine do it on its own HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry double post, but I just read this and laughed. We gave them SO MANY billions of dollars. Along with drugs they fund, so please stfu, and stop QQing when they dont let themselves get rocketed to oblivion. An invade is not the correct word, how about being placed away from antisemites like yourself.


Billions?

And who is ''We''?

And I have nothing against Jews, but I do hate Israël :)

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 Post subject: Re: Israel or Palestine?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:53 pm 
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asusi wrote:
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gtfo kid, kids like you ruin threads like this. fking sro addict nob :banghead:

Dude, seriously .. stfu. I put $100 that you are some fat fuck who sits on their computer / gaming console all day long, without a life talking to their only, online 'friends'. Also, how do you know I play silkroad dipshit ?

Get a life fucktard n don't talk to me. Ever.

Hypocorticism on it's best!! :yay: thanks for drawing a picture of your self for me :palm:

Man, you saw right through me [sarcasm] :slap: Don't like what I have to think, keep it to yourself bud.

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 Post subject: Re: Israel or Palestine?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:09 pm 
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Kah00ner wrote:
asusi wrote:
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Dude, seriously .. stfu. I put $100 that you are some fat fuck who sits on their computer / gaming console all day long, without a life talking to their only, online 'friends'. Also, how do you know I play silkroad dipshit ?

Get a life fucktard n don't talk to me. Ever.

Hypocorticism on it's best!! :yay: thanks for drawing a picture of your self for me :palm:

Man, you saw right through me [sarcasm] :slap: Don't like what I have to think, keep it to yourself bud.

What is wrong with being fat and loving computer? everybody got their own thing,,,, hating people is not necessary

btw pay me 100$ now fkrrr, cause you gueesed it wrong! :yay:

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