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the level of ignorance here is just pathetic

then you ask why terrorists attack us.

maybe its becausewe go into their hometowns and murder them and their children, and then boast about it.

And this is like listening to a fcking xbox live conversation. these a**holes think that this is fcking COD.

and to everyone saying this is just collateral damage and is inevitable, this war was not. it could have been stopped. we have teabaggers running around protesting the money we waste on healthcare, but don't do sh*t to stop the wasteful spending that funds a**holes like these.

and to those saying that it was a mistake, better safe than sorry. what about the van? that is just straight up slaughter, no one had anyone weapons nor were they hurting anyone. they were just trying to rescue the wounded. And how do you explain the soldiers LAUGHING after they killed people?

and don't even get me started on the legality of this BS "war on terrorism".

Lol, love these whiney kids.

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everyone is quick to judge when it isnt there butts in possible harm

you just proved my point. thanks, you brainwashed tool. you won't be Lol'ing when america gets attacked again because of retards like these soldiers.

Don't reply on those trolls, at least i hope they troll, cause if their are being serious, those soldiers are ashame for USA. I hope they get punished for what they have done.
+ You're officially in my Fav SRF users list

I'm going to read rest of the thread later, just wanted to say that I specifically named the thread 'Army fail', and not US Army fail. I didn't want a 'US is bad' -war going on.


I know this is war, and I know mistakes can be made. But just because you are at war it does not mean you no longer carry responsibility for your actions. The incident was an unfortunate mistake, but the cover up is where the real problem is for me. (+ The soldiers laughing at killing people. That's people dying there, and the soldiers are just laughing. You can be proud of doing your job, you can be proud of serving your country, but how does that allow you to laugh at dying people?)

IF they were real journalist... the terrorist is gona have new recruits from their relatives. This is how Filipinos deals with the Philippine Government. the M.I.L.F.(Moro Islamic Liberation Front), Abusayaf, and the New People's Army got their men from this style

Reactions for your actions.

I like how they were so certain they had RPG's or AK-47's. Basically wanted to convince themselves that those "terrorists" were a threat, giving them a reason to shoot.

I mean seriously, you could just tell they were looking for any retarded reason to kill them.

this is what happens when you give retarded white redneck dropouts permission to operate huge guns

exactly my point.

these kind of actions and these soldiers are the main reason so may people in the Middle-East hate America.

If an arab guy would've killed those people, you're all would be calling it terrorism, but when the U.S. army kills these innocent people, it's called collateral damage.

SUBJECTIVE
ADJECTIVE:

1.
1. Proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external world: a subjective decision.
2. Particular to a given person; personal: subjective experience.

maybe you meant they are not being "objective"?

Also, wishing that American soldiers "get shot down and burned to death" does not seem objective.

it's not because they're American, it's because they're beasts.

Their nationality doesn't matter in this case, only what they did matters.

/wrong

I love how everyone says they're "trigger-happy" but I'd love to see anyone who isn't trigger-happy when they get shipped out to a warzone and face death possibly around every corner. Yeah, I don't know anyone who would wait till they're shot at first before they act. I know some will try to BS and say they wouldn't, but when it's your ass on the line, you'd definitely opt for the preemptive, because otherwise it could mean death. I'm not so sure about you, but I like living and I'll do whatever it takes to ensure it continues as long as possible.

OT: As to the first volley which killed the initial group, I could understand why the soldiers did what they did: two people of the group appeared to be carrying ARs around their shoulders, and another w/ an RPG. That coupled with having info about hostile actions in the area preceding the incident only makes a stronger case for the soldiers; the guy using the wall as cover to peer out and appeared to be holding an RPG could only be seen as an aggressive behavior in that situation and they dealt with it accordingly to perception; however, after the van it was a bit overkill: they were just trying to help the wounded, but in situations like those they don't really have time to see if that "what if" is true or not.

Everyone is basing their opinion on morals. Yes, those soldiers fucked up, and they should NEVER have kept on going. Yes, they have ruined their lives, they will never be the same again because of the war. Imagine how many people they would have had to kill to not even care anymore, and imagine what they would have been through. Everyone is putting out good arguments, but you all need to remember, war does NO good to a human being. If anyone here has been to war, and killed someone, would they kindly share what they felt afterwards ? What I'm trying to get at is that since none of us were there, or have been in situations like that, we don't, and probably never will know what soldiers think about at times like this, and how they react to these situations. For all we know, one of the helicopter pilots could have seen something like this, but in the Iraqi's favor, and watched as half his infantry was blown to bits, then things like this just become habit.

Both sides are at fault, but in this scenario, more the Americans because of the wrong acts they committed. That should never have happened.

It's clear that they learn nothing in Army, i mean from their mistakes... Like from Vietnam and stuff ...

The news talked about this just now for roughly 10 seconds. News about Michael Jackson's doctor and drug(Mainly this) more than a minute. Just.. no.

I've been to Iraq several times since the invasion and I've talked to many U.S. soldiers.

All of the soldiers I spoke were decent people, they did not like killing, but they did what they had to do to survive. Most of them liked the Iraqi people and really tried to help them. Though most of them did not agree on this war, they still served their country. These kind of soldiers are real soldiers. If they make mistakes, we really can call it collateral damage and allthough the pain for the loss of the loved ones is undiscrible, most of the Iraqi will understand it.

But these soldiers are just savages. They're heart is rotten and they seem to like to kill people. They enjoy seeing someone else suffering. It is these kind of soldiers that give the whole U.S. army a bad reputation.

And when we criticize the U.S. army, this doesn't always mean we're anti-american. I thank the U.S. for removing Saddam, i truly do. But I can not see this video without feeling anger and hate towards those soldiers. They do not deserve to serve in the U.S. army and they do not deserve to live.

War is never fair and I know that. But we must try to keep it as fair as possible, especially when you're invading a country to ''free'' it. The U.S. can not afford these kind of ''mistakes''.

These soldiers should be shot. And if I had the opportunity to do it myself, I would've done it.

ITT this guy mad about people with the same skin color as him getting killed

wtf are you talking about?

So because people of the 'same skin color' get killed, it automatically means you can't condemn the killers?
If Iraqi's would just slaughter innocent US reporters and civilians I can't rage on the Iraqi's because they killed people of my skin color?

This is a whole new level of retardation.

There's that whole "objective/subjective" thing again...

I lol'ed.

Ok then, why did they bomb the WTC? You don't even give a reason...maybe because you don't know? And obviously you did not read through my posts. I said DISTORTED ISLAM HERETICS. Is "distorted islam heretics" the same thing as "islam"? No its not. The reason why those terrorists hate white people is because of their twisted logic and extremist islamist views. They adopted those views way before bush the criminal invaded iraq and before 9/11. But theres also the anti-jew factor in it too (which could lead to another discussion of why the hell our country is supporting israel).

Did you even bother reading my previous posts or are you just skimming through them and going "OMG RACIST TROOOOLLLLL"? I already said that the very first time that the american pilots shot at the people was with good reason. However the killings after the first shooting was wrong and the pilots were obviously enjoying the whole thing.

Since I'm a troll, read this post that isn't by me below:


This pretty much sums up that situation. The pilots should be taken to court and punished.

Ok, these people are currently confirmed to be journalists, but did they ensure the right people knew who they were at the time or did they think they could go around pointing things at military men in secret and get some awesome story without possible repercussions? People have confused less for weapons.

How many of you are used to seeing shoulder mounted things proppel death at you on a daily basis? These soldiers see it every day. They had to decide to chance it and allow themselves to get killed or protect themselves. Im not excusing them, im just saying im sure there were reasons for their actions. If these soldiers were aware of them being journalists, than that’s a whole nother story. But this group of people don’t make up an entire country, sadly their actions reflect on one though.

And you know, maybe we shouldn’t be fuckin around with iraq, but you know what. There would be just as many people angery at us if we werent involved. Rather than say, "evil americans invading a county and sticking their noses where they don’t belong." it would be "spoiled americans know whats going on and are doing nothing."

We arent going there trying to make it the "United States of Iraq America" we are trying to help relieve an oppressed people and give them the chance to have a fair and decent government (as fair and decent as is humanly possible.) it seems though that no one sees it that way, even the people that are being depended upon and given responsibility within iraq to help prop themselves up are only taking advantage of our presence and talking shit behind our backs. So yes, we should absolutely leave, and let this failed state implode into itself.

O and the comment about, "how could they look less threatening?" well you do realize that many of the people who have engaged soldiers look like civilians, some even children, right?

Forgive me if something said was repeated or answered in previous posts. I got sick of reading and needed to get back to work anyways.

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