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 Post subject: Re: Miss. school prom off after lesbian's date request
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:28 am 
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My stance is you do what you want but don't try to convince me to feel how you think I should because its most convenient for you. homosexual "ACTS" grosses me out but I won't go telling gays that they shouldn't be gay. As long as they don't try to convince me that it isn't gross. Or try to tell me that it is normal. Let me be the judge of what is normal to me and what is not.

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Ha. How is it not a choice? I read something that one of you posted about there being studies that indicate that some people don't really have a choice in the matter, where are these studies?

Genetic Feminization of Pheromones and Its Behavioral Consequences in Drosophila Males:

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Pheromones are intraspecific chemical signals important for mate attraction and discrimination. In the fruit fly Drosophila melanogaster, hydrocarbons on the cuticular surface of the animal are sexually dimorphic in both their occurrence and their effects: Female-specific molecules stimulate male sexual excitation, whereas the predominant male-specific molecule tends to inhibit male excitation. Complete feminization of the pheromone mixture produced by males was induced by targeted expression of the transformer gene in adult oenocytes (subcuticular abdominal cells) or by ubiquitous expression during early imaginal life. The resulting flies generally exhibited male heterosexual orientation but elicited homosexual courtship from other males.


Evolutionary biology: Genetics and bisexuality:

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A population-genetic model indicates that if there is a gene responsible for homosexual behaviour it can readily spread in populations. The model also predicts widespread bisexuality in humans.


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Hamer and colleagues studied the family histories of 114 gay men and found that their brothers, maternal uncles, and maternal male cousins were more likely to be homosexual than would be expected among the general male population. In some families, gay relatives could be traced back for three generations. Because the homosexual uncles and male cousins of the gay subjects were raised in different households, the scientists hypothesized that a genetic factor was involved. Furthermore, the maternal link suggested that homosexuality might be associated with the X chromosome, which is the sex-linked chromosome that men inherit only from their mothers.

Explicit evidence for a genetic link was obtained by studying the X chromosome DNA of 40 pairs of gay brothers. The scientists used a technique called linkage mapping to search for patterns of similarity in the genetic information of related individuals. Thirty-three of the gay sibling pairs had coinherited genetic markers in the same chromosome region called Xq28, suggesting that 65 percent of the families studied were transmitting a gene for homosexual orientation.

"The statistical significance of the results was better than 99 percent, which means that the possibility of obtaining our findings by chance is extremely unlikely," said Hamer. However, he noted that replication on an independent population of families will be necessary to confirm the results.

The scientists do not know why 7 of the 40 pairs of gay brothers did not coinherit the Xq28 genetic marker. Hamer postulated that these gay men may have inherited other genes that are associated with homosexuality, or they might have been influenced by environmental factors or life experiences.

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Other studies have been conducted that look at twin brothers rather than brothers of different ages. Bailey and Pillard (1991) did a study of twins that determined a Ò52% concordance of homosexuality in monozygotic twins, 22% for dizygotic twins, and 11% for adoptive brothers of homosexual men (8). These results, like Hamer's, provide further support for the claim that homosexuality is genetically linked. Studies very similar to the Bailey and Pillard study have been done both with female homosexual siblings and siblings of both sexes. The results for both of these studies were only off from Bailey and PillardÕs by a few percentage points. Putting all of these results together, it seems like genetics are at least 50% accountable for determining a personÕs sexual orientation (8).

Biological Basis of Sexual Orientation - Stanford:

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Just read it..

Mother's genetics could influence sexual orientation:

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A survey of Italian men has provided evidence that homosexuality may be partly influenced by genetics. The same genes that are proposed to predispose to homosexuality may also boost reproduction in women, solving the apparent paradox of why these genes have not been removed by natural selection.

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Where do animal behaviours come from and are they controlled by genes? This is the fundamental question posed by the field of neurogenetics. Pioneering work from the 1960s in Seymour Benzer's laboratory demonstrated for the first time that Drosophila melanogaster fruitflies could be mutated to obtain animals with insomnia, learning disabilities and homosexual courtship behaviours.


That's just the genetic side of things. Don't be ignorant.



I'm just gonna quote that from EvGa, anyone who wants to use "Homosexuality isn't natural" pls read this before making yourself look stupid. Props to him for taking the time for having multiple sources.

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 Post subject: Re: Miss. school prom off after lesbian's date request
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:21 am 
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But it makes great news!

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I don't think shifting blame from the religious/insecure bigots onto the lesbians is the correct line of judgment here... This case not being new doesn't put the girls in the wrong. Sorry.

How is allowing two people to walk into a room, dance, and walk out at the end of the night "bending over backwards"?


Referring to the result it generated. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, I'm saying they chose the wrong time to become aware of their rights (or unfortunate lack thereof). They very well could have allowed them to attend, but after this kind of attention it would be dangerous for them because other students, or their parents, might react negatively. The south isn't exactly known for its hospitality toward such things.

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Whether or not they knew this would happen or had seen this happen in other cases is irrelevant. The school administration are a bunch of idiotic fools for not allowing them to attend the prom in the first place.

Indeed, but their decision to cancel the prom altogether because of something like this is just as idiotic.

It doesn't satisfy justice and it doesn't make the school's policy change in any way. Basically one person ruined it for everybody because the school didn't want to face a lawsuit or other such nonsense.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:38 am 
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doesn't the bible contain homosexual references?
Ruth and Naomi
“Where you go, I will go; where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God. Where you die, I will die –there will I be buried. May the Lord do thus and so to me, and more as well, if even death parts me from you”, Ruth 1: 16-17

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“When David had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was bound to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul” (1 Samuel 18:1)

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They should have filed an injunction first to prevent the school board from cancelling the prom. hurr durr


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UPDATE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/constance-mcmillen-fake-p_n_525856.html


So since the court forced the school to allow the girls, they decided to host a "secret" prom. 7 ppl showed up to the prom including the 2 lesbian girls and a few kids with learning disabilities.

Facebook revealed pictures of a totally separate prom where everyone was. I think they're investigating now to see whether the school was involved in setting up the secret prom since that is just blatant segregation.


Here's another article which I think shows how some Christians are just an outside cover of self-righteousness.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-patrick-s-cheng-phd/love-the-sinner-hate-the_b_526355.html

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lol damn, thats kinda low ;d.

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Now that's just fcking dumb of the school.


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The words "ignorant jackasses" describe this somewhat nicely, why are all these people so preoccupied with what Bob or Sussi shove up their ass.... exactly ....

And as always remember, mind your own fu cking business.

edit: those words don't really do justice to all these hateful beings who claim to live for and under a god who is the absolute master in all his perfection of all there is.

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The words "ignorant jackasses" describe this somewhat nicely, why are all these people so preoccupied with what Bob or Sussi shove up their ass.... exactly ....

And as always remember, mind your own fu cking business.

edit: those words don't really do justice to all these hateful beings who claim to live for and under a god who is the absolute master in all his perfection of all there is.

lol perfectly said.
I just don't understand Christians they say God is fair to all and nice and stuff, but here they are saying God hates ****, and shit.

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thats just classless by the students, and if the school was involved thy should be sued

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Their just lesbians they should be allowed to go..

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I might not personally agree with it but I don't see the problem why they cannot attend their own prom just because of the nature of there sexuality. :banghead: :banghead:
TBH I do not even see why this is such a big issue especially in today's society, though unless the towns people are like some sort of crazy christian westboro baptist church type people...then I'm not surprised. :roll:

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TBH I do not even see why this is such a big issue especially in today's society, though unless the towns people are like some sort of crazy christian westboro baptist church type people...then I'm not surprised. :roll:

its in mississippi, whaddya expect :roll:

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TBH I do not even see why this is such a big issue especially in today's society, though unless the towns people are like some sort of crazy christian westboro baptist church type people...then I'm not surprised. :roll:

its in mississippi, whaddya expect :roll:

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TBH I do not even see why this is such a big issue especially in today's society, though unless the towns people are like some sort of crazy christian westboro baptist church type people...then I'm not surprised. :roll:

its in mississippi, whaddya expect :roll:

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i was kidding, hence the " :roll: "
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First off, <3 Goseki and XemnasXD.
Second, Wow Tasdik, you are one narrow minded asshole.
The narrow mindedness in this thread, is repulsive.

Hurray for Gay,Bi,Bisexual,Transexuals <3

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i was kidding, hence the " :roll: "
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:roll:

does not denote joke. The post you quoted used it and was not joking.

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I wasn't aware of the awesomeness Tasdik posted, I mean he was actually trying to affirm that people are gay "by choice"

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on a more serious note I got news .... EVERY SINGLE ACTION, EVERY SINGLE ANYTHING YOU DO ORIGINATES FROM YOUR GENES/YOUR BEING/YOUR FLESH/ YOUR COMPOSITION/ WHATEVER THAT IS YOU ARE, is an inescapable fact, you are what you are, write it down, is so absurd that even a jackass like yourself can't dispute it when put in such an obvious format.

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We can take it one step further, I subscribe to determinism.

But that is for another thread. :D

Way to go bigots, another point for your team. Fing morons.

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