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So a bacteria transformed into a dinosaur...?

No, that would take billions of years. The bacteria could evolve and form a new species of bacteria that's better adapted to its environment within a reasonable amount of time.

You trolling. Also...god's a guess because we didn't see it with our own eyes? Your brain's a guess because I can't see it with my own eyes?

You said we haven't witnessed natural selection, I gave you an example of natural selection. The fact you equate natural selection to evolution shows your weak understanding of the theory. Natural selection is a component of evolution, but not the only one.

Religion is based on faith. I can assure you that most religious people know this or else they wouldn't be praying to a god. You will often hear a religious person in times of crisis saying words like 'have faith' or something of similar matter. One thing I've noticed on SRF is that some atheist don't even know the definition of atheism. An atheist is someone who denies the existence of a god. If that's the case, then lets take religion out of the picture and focus on another philosophical belief that was mentioned earlier, deism. My point is, most atheist only know about religion and use that to bash a god. Religion could be false, but there could also be other means of a god existing.




LOL!

So a sperm and an egg transformed into a human?

Stop limiting your worldview to such minuscule time frames.

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Although we're talking about the branching of species over eons, something that many people can't grasp. There is empirical evidence that shows the gradual evolution of species.

Wonderful.

i can agree that its based on faith but even still how many people pick their religion? most just grow up to use their parents religion. i grew up catholic went to their little classes to teach me the word of god or what ever. why am i not catholic? because i did research and thought for myself. i honestly don't see very many people do that these days. i have to agree that a lot of "atheists" call themselves that because it became popular somehow.

could their be a god sure it would fit but i don't believe that. am i open to the idea? yea i am does that make me not an atheist? no i still believe that a "god" is made up and people should start thinking for themselves. i have no issues with someone who believes that their is a god and does not follow an organized religion. its the ones that follow an organized religion that i start to challenge.

you can say oh your saying you believe you have faith that there is not a god! yes that is true but at least i don't have someone telling me what i believe in. with the information i have seen plus life experiences i have made my own choice and believe what i believe. organized religion is what i argue against not religion itself.

So did you witness the transformation between species or you are hoping/guessing that a species A transform into B through mutation?


The point is you didn't actually witness the event. So you are here, now, today, judging an event from the past using guesses basing on what you observer in your current time.


I don't see any paradox here. We have no choice because we lack of free will, therefore god gives it to people?

When a girl is raped and a person convicted (after the fact) because of a DNA match. Was the prosecutor just 'making a guess' or did he have firm grounds to declare who the criminal is/was. He wasn't there to see it? Must be a guess? Even though he has empirical data to show exactly who it was, it's only a guess?

NuclearSilo, we have witnessed natural selection, speciation, a fossil record that gradually changes, retro virus insertions, etc, etc, etc.

One person has unique DNA

There are many causes for mutation. You are not even sure the natural selection is the unique cause that cause species to transform. Or you are not even sure but only guessing that it plays a part

Please stop trolling, you make no sense. In the meantime, PLEASE go read up on evolution and the mechanisms by which it works.

Start by looking up what natural selection means.

exactly.

I don't see how religion contradicts evolution, maybe specific religions like Christianity, but not all religions

No one here is using that argument. NuclearSilo is just trolling.

You did, many times, in old religion thread.

Not as an argument against god's existence, only against organized religion itself. However, certain aspects of religion can be used as arguments against itself in how it defines its god, etc.

Read up on evolution and natural selection yet?

More importantly, atheism is the lack of a belief in a deity, thus the "a-theism".

To put it into simpler terms, imagine theism as red, atheism would be the lack of red.

I see this all the time on forums where religious people, Christians mostly, by the very nature of their belief, place atheism in the religion block as the "denial" of God, as if God is neutral and everything else spawns from it.

Ridiculous if you ask me.

Yes basically they said it started with the fossils, saw some similar in gene. And so they are assuming that specie evolve because of natural selection.
But they didn't actually witness the changes, right? Just guessing based on what they observe today

Annnnnd we're done. Have a wonderful day.

Proof of evolution happening today http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... etcrickets

Say I if your just ignoring the idiotic BS post by NuclearSilo as you read the comments.
Natural Selection wasn't suggested because of some fossil, have you even read Darwin's book. I highly doubt you've read nor even understanding the basic of natural selection.

Any mutation wether good or bad is a result of evolution, natural selection is just one mechanism of evolution, so stop throwing bs around.

I don't saw, but at least I don't assume something I didn't witness

You're right.

Ouija is definitely more credible than Science.

ouija is a part of the truth science doesn't understand yet

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eh...post count +1

you surely didn't investigate many stories about ouija board