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I support him everystep of the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Except the ebay part -- I think He should just delete his char.

But if he does that, wont the SRO economy go down like it did in the 1930's or something. Because their wont be enough gold to go around, SOS prices will drop. And since I'm non-botter, Ill just get my full SOS set for cheap ( :D )

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everyone wanna be modern day robin hood boy.

hah.

i took the liberty to trouble myself to register in this forum just to reply.
cos it's really ..... funny and entertaining.

ima gonna side on that robin hood guy.

he say, he will distribute the gold to random players in game.
fine with that. balance the economy.

he say he wil ebay the gold.
he didnt say he gonna ..... the usd all to himself.
he prolly gonna send it to unicef aint u?
baghdad needs money badly. rebuild that country pls.

joymax is making alot of money no doubt.
the game will never suffer, cos out alot of kids have not known sro yet prolly they still shopping at toys r' us. until they are old enuf, they will engage into sro and the whole cycle sh1t will go again.

joymax prolly don giv a damn bout the securities u say.
no doubt joymax a company looking for profit in a contra way, instead of looking at long term investment. Diablo2 aint making money anymore aint it?
imho, they already making enuf profit, and whatever crap happen in the sro world, only you care, and they don bother. cos they make the cut already. does the taxi man care bout u after u given him the fare?

noticed how isro make money? 11 servers already aint we? 1 new server = new profit.
security sh1t aint a money making department so who wants to have them(sro is already currently making money even with this big diaper leak) unless it's cisco we are talking about.

the Polish GG the whole security hole no doubt and have every powr to exploit it even. and if u care, u can't give aint sh1t.
i say those polish dude earned themself those credits, and hope to softly 'extort' joymax. they saw, they like, and they conqured.

joymax has every right to 'own' the ig gold, cos everything belongs to joymax.

this will surely earn u a bolded name in the 'behind the scene' society.
prolly looks good on your resume too :)

just an opinion. ima jsut a regular trader.


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Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.


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why are u telling them things they already know , and most ppl know it too

you steal at 7-eleven, u get caught u go police.

u cheat at exams, u get caught bar from all exams.

u traffic drugs, u get hang.

common sense.

if one wanna hack, one just gotta go free wireless hotspot (eg starbucks, library) but first u need a laptop. don let the camera sees you tough.


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why are u telling them things they already know , and most ppl know it too

you steal at 7-eleven, u get caught u go police.

u cheat at exams, u get caught bar from all exams.

u traffic drugs, u get hang.

common sense.

if one wanna hack, one just gotta go free wireless hotspot (eg starbucks, library) but first u need a laptop. don let the camera sees you tough.

I doubt he ever took it that seriously, while he dont know he can really get ..... up big time...

Going to library wont help for the simple fact they got there everywhere camera's.


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Shore Budday. i hate ppl who say that. That is like worse than giving up.

if he hacks i dont want to trust him period. I dont care if he says he is going after bots only. How do we know that for sure? And this whole ebay thing? Dude just wants to make some money.

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if he hacks i dont want to trust him period. I dont care if he says he is going after bots only. How do we know that for sure? And this whole ebay thing? Dude just wants to make some money.



you think he is only trying to gain public support for his actions by publishing anti-bot manifest and acc lists? Hard to say what true motive is, but I am concerned less with his motive and more with the final result if it happen as it says in the plan. I want the botter gone and I don't care how, to me this is the lesser of two evils. Sure we don't know everyone on the list, if you are curious than take a look for yourself and see if anyone is on the list who you are absolutly sure does not belong. I was not able to do this so I cannot yet have a final opinion, perhaps when/if the next list is published. Until than I only base my opinion on what sanata claus has propose to do, yes I think if he can clean up the servers in the way he claims than he deserves to keep some of the botter riches.


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Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.



Hi, you have no idea about International and PL law work, I won't even try to explain and argue since you won't read it. But here are some key point you might want to look at.

1: You know that TOS that you sign when you register an account, go back and read that.
2: All Ingame item belong to JM, the player have no ground to pursue anything. And you violate the TOS in the first place.
3: JM can't pursue the matter because Santa is not hacking them.
4: Bot maker can't sue because LOL you do know they take no responsibility for the use of their program right? you use a bot at your own risk.

The only thing that is court related in SRO, is JM for not taking action to prevent CCF. Any victim of CCF as a result of silk buying can take JM to court.

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if he really wants to make it fair, destroy joymax all togethor. whats more fair then everybody at lvl 1?


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what?! omg so its true, I was standing and alchemying behind hunter guild in hotan and all of a sudden I got this invite from arkhane in a known guildh ereo n the forum, won't say, those that are in same guild knows tho who it is, didnt understand how I could get invited by someone since I was alone, and he didnt respond when I asked him how he invited me like:S unfortunatly I can't prove it, but wow, this thread is creepy:S

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you guys have no idea.

these guys do the best they can, you guys know nothing of the companys standing share holders or what it took to get the game off the ground, all you people do is complain, you kow what, suck it up and stop acting like little kids. the world does not revolve around you guys.

they are always working on fixing there problems and also working on geting new updates done. there is alot of time to every thing they do, not to mention that the korean vertion has bin out atleast a year longer.

yes there are botter. yes to be fair they have to check them all, and do you have any idea how long that takes.
no you dont, you think that you just give a bug report and that person should be deleted or blocked. well guess what, if that was the case alot of people would just be sending in reports to try to get people banned, and yes they still get alot of these.

man some times i dont think any of you use your heads.

also botters over 90% of the time dont buy silk, so for every botter they are losing money.

if you want to try to get ride of the botters, then do it. you think you can do a better job then joymax, you know what i thats great you want to try so hard, in a illegal way, but your trying no the less.

also for every account banned they need to fill out a report on it so there not at falt.

nothing is cut and dry, yes botters are a pain for me, at lv 67 and i cant get my quest done fast. but i like the game so i play it.

i know this is a hard thing to think of since most are so one sided on it but, none of you have the slightest clue as to what it takes to maintain the game.


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100% hoax for sure, but the idea is nice.

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It can't be 100% hoax because all the IDs and passwords on the list work.

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THIS GUY IS ALL TALK. HE USES ALOT OF BIG WORDS TO CONVINCE PPL THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY AND CAPABLE OF DOING EVERYTHING. AS A MATTER OF FACT HE USES A WEBSITE {WILL POST AS SOON AS I CAN REMEMBER THE URL} TO GET THE ACCESS TO THE ACCOUNTS. THIS WEBSITE CLAIMS TO CONFIGURE A WORKING BOT FOR U TO DOWNLOAD AFTER U INPUT ALOT OF VARIABLES SUCH AS YOUR LVL, WAT BELT IS YOUR POTS, YOUR MAIN ATTCKS ETC. THIS ALSO ASKS FOR YOUR ID AND PASS WHICH I MUST ADMIT WAS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO GIVE OUT ON ACCOUNT THAT WAS LEANT TO ME. SO ALL IN ALL HE TARGETS WANNABE BOTTERS AND NOT THE REAL BOTTERS. IF U HAVE EVIDENCE THAT HE GOT RID OF A WELL KNOWN BOTTER, I WOULD BE MORE THEN GLAD TO HEAR U OUT


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^^ thats why we are curious to see if he will release another list as he promised, one that contains the high level botter accs. Also He named 3 different sources for gettin the acc's, there was'nt a mention of specifics, but IMO i'd like to see the wannabe botters share the same fate as the rest


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curiosity killed the cat

at least i didnt loose my main

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THIS GUY IS ALL TALK. HE USES ALOT OF BIG WORDS TO CONVINCE PPL THAT HE IS THE ALMIGHTY AND CAPABLE OF DOING EVERYTHING. AS A MATTER OF FACT HE USES A WEBSITE {WILL POST AS SOON AS I CAN REMEMBER THE URL} TO GET THE ACCESS TO THE ACCOUNTS. THIS WEBSITE CLAIMS TO CONFIGURE A WORKING BOT FOR U TO DOWNLOAD AFTER U INPUT ALOT OF VARIABLES SUCH AS YOUR LVL, WAT BELT IS YOUR POTS, YOUR MAIN ATTCKS ETC. THIS ALSO ASKS FOR YOUR ID AND PASS WHICH I MUST ADMIT WAS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO GIVE OUT ON ACCOUNT THAT WAS LEANT TO ME. SO ALL IN ALL HE TARGETS WANNABE BOTTERS AND NOT THE REAL BOTTERS. IF U HAVE EVIDENCE THAT HE GOT RID OF A WELL KNOWN BOTTER, I WOULD BE MORE THEN GLAD TO HEAR U OUT


Yay a phishing page for accounts.

Finally a good answer. A type of URL we prohibit on the board.

Now we can kill the topic.


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... char? A victim are you?

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100% hoax for sure, but the idea is nice.


cant be they've got lots ppl's pw and crap.but who knows he probably didnt hack those ppl.
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It can't be 100% hoax because all the IDs and passwords on the list work.


it was some 1-25 lvl players accounts. im pretty sure they was keylogged accounts from their polish free bots. future will tell anyway :)

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omg botters! :shock:

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Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.



Hi, you have no idea about International and PL law work, I won't even try to explain and argue since you won't read it. But here are some key point you might want to look at.

1: You know that TOS that you sign when you register an account, go back and read that.
2: All Ingame item belong to JM, the player have no ground to pursue anything. And you violate the TOS in the first place.
3: JM can't pursue the matter because Santa is not hacking them.
4: Bot maker can't sue because LOL you do know they take no responsibility for the use of their program right? you use a bot at your own risk.

The only thing that is court related in SRO, is JM for not taking action to prevent CCF. Any victim of CCF as a result of silk buying can take JM to court.

(Hi,

*seems like you dont know what law's are and period. Its not a local law, its universal law, and I know poland way more then you think I know as in the 10/4/06 I am going to be there for a week, again. Means; hacking aint allowed in every western country, same as do not kill and so on, basic stuff.

*Botter user cannot be sued, but the bot company can. Its like drugs, they'll first go for the dealer.

*You are invading someone else's account, that is hacking, he spent money on buying silks and so on, so yes you can get sued, a person can say you hacked is account after he spent so much money on silks, then yeh, you're the one to blame, not him..

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lollol wrote:
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lollol wrote:
Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.



Hi, you have no idea about International and PL law work, I won't even try to explain and argue since you won't read it. But here are some key point you might want to look at.

1: You know that TOS that you sign when you register an account, go back and read that.
2: All Ingame item belong to JM, the player have no ground to pursue anything. And you violate the TOS in the first place.
3: JM can't pursue the matter because Santa is not hacking them.
4: Bot maker can't sue because LOL you do know they take no responsibility for the use of their program right? you use a bot at your own risk.

The only thing that is court related in SRO, is JM for not taking action to prevent CCF. Any victim of CCF as a result of silk buying can take JM to court.

(Hi,

*seems like you dont know what law's are and period. Its not a local law, its universal law, and I know poland way more then you think I know as in the 10/4/06 I am going to be there for a week, again. Means; hacking aint allowed in every western country, same as do not kill and so on, basic stuff.

*Botter user cannot be sued, but the bot company can. Its like drugs, they'll first go for the dealer.

*You are invading someone else's account, that is hacking, he spent money on buying silks and so on, so yes you can get sued, a person can say you hacked is account after he spent so much money on silks, then yeh, you're the one to blame, not him..

Have a nice day.


LOL, no you have no idea what your talking about, call your local prosecutor and ask them what can be sue and what’s not. Universal law of what? Hacking? Since when is there a universal law on hacking? It’s all about local lawmaker, if your country has no law regarding hacking you can do it as you wish, its jurisdiction.

Also don't bring the "do not kill" BS as a point to strength your argument if your not prepare to back that up.

Botter can be sue, but not the bot company, they only produce the product, which is legal in china. However, if you live the in the United state you cannot use it, it’s a breaching of contract on top of modification of copyrighted material, the law regarding this is the location in which you sign up your account and the location of where you log into the server with modify client.

Please go back to your example of drug and how they go after the dealer and make sense of yourself.

Finally re-read my post, all in game item belong to JM including your silk. Here is JM stance

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Though your account is for the most part available for your own usage, you do not own the content and ultimately the account itself. The account is Joymax's intellectual property... Q/A 8-27

that mean you own nothing and nothing belong to you, not your ID not your PW, nothing.

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Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.



Hi, you have no idea about International and PL law work, I won't even try to explain and argue since you won't read it. But here are some key point you might want to look at.

1: You know that TOS that you sign when you register an account, go back and read that.
2: All Ingame item belong to JM, the player have no ground to pursue anything. And you violate the TOS in the first place.
3: JM can't pursue the matter because Santa is not hacking them.
4: Bot maker can't sue because LOL you do know they take no responsibility for the use of their program right? you use a bot at your own risk.

The only thing that is court related in SRO, is JM for not taking action to prevent CCF. Any victim of CCF as a result of silk buying can take JM to court.

(Hi,

*seems like you dont know what law's are and period. Its not a local law, its universal law, and I know poland way more then you think I know as in the 10/4/06 I am going to be there for a week, again. Means; hacking aint allowed in every western country, same as do not kill and so on, basic stuff.

*Botter user cannot be sued, but the bot company can. Its like drugs, they'll first go for the dealer.

*You are invading someone else's account, that is hacking, he spent money on buying silks and so on, so yes you can get sued, a person can say you hacked is account after he spent so much money on silks, then yeh, you're the one to blame, not him..

Have a nice day.


LOL, no you have no idea what your talking about, call your local prosecutor and ask them what can be sue and what’s not. Universal law of what? Hacking? Since when is there a universal law on hacking? It’s all about local lawmaker, if your country has no law regarding hacking you can do it as you wish, its jurisdiction.

Also don't bring the "do not kill" BS as a point to strength your argument if your not prepare to back that up.

Botter can be sue, but not the bot company, they only produce the product, which is legal in china. However, if you live the in the United state you cannot use it, it’s a breaching of contract on top of modification of copyrighted material, the law regarding this is the location in which you sign up your account and the location of where you log into the server with modify client.

Please go back to your example of drug and how they go after the dealer and make sense of yourself.

Finally re-read my post, all in game item belong to JM including your silk. Here is JM stance

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Though your account is for the most part available for your own usage, you do not own the content and ultimately the account itself. The account is Joymax's intellectual property... Q/A 8-27

that mean you own nothing and nothing belong to you, not your ID not your PW, nothing.

Yes there is a rule in whole europe so dont say bullshit about hacking is allowed on poland cause its 100% not, so stop making fool outta yourself.

Dont make yourself a saint, ur worse as those filthy botters with ur hacking, who the hell you think u are to hack people's accounts and I dont care either if they are botters or not, that's GM's work, not urs... you think i'll support a small hacker that hack botters just to get stuff into his own pocket? dont make me friggin laugh will ya.

You hacking accounts with silks, yes its JM's silks but the COSTUMER bought it, and YOU hacked it, not JM did, so yes YOU are the one to get sued.

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The facts are annoying me:

Let's say it is all true what he says;
1. You say you do it against botting, and you give away the items.
Im online about 5-6 hours a day, and i've NEVER seen you giving away items, or have heard of you doing so. Makes me think you are keeping the items all for yourself. oh And you say you dont need to get 5 dollar from an internet game. 5 dollar is pretty much cash in poland. I was on holiday there.8)

2. "3 Sources."
Whatever. I only know about one bot program: bot285 aka bot396. I read somewhere in this post, dont know excactly who said it, that no-one of them has been hacked. Their site has over 20k of members. fact.

3. "The real thing is that Joymax allow them to do it!"
Aah well. It aint your game right? You clearly dont know how much work is involved in game designing. Let Joymax handle their own bussiness. You make demands and treaths like you own everything in this world. You are just a customer. If you bought some clothes, and after a while they start to fall out , you dont go over to the shop to smack it up right?

4. "- Offer for JoyMax, was sended hundred of times, by bug-report and for an main JoyMax e-mail adress. No response contribute to make this manifesto."
I've send you an email 2. Asking if you need help killing the botters in silkroad, and showing my support. No response. Want a better world? start with yourself.

O yeah, Hacking maybe legal in poland, You'd better hacked a polish server then. Because in the rest of the world it is illigal.

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The facts are annoying me:

Let's say it is all true what he says;
1. You say you do it against botting, and you give away the items.
Im online about 5-6 hours a day, and i've NEVER seen you giving away items, or have heard of you doing so. Makes me think you are keeping the items all for yourself. oh And you say you dont need to get 5 dollar from an internet game. 5 dollar is pretty much cash in poland. I was on holiday there.8)

2. "3 Sources."
Whatever. I only know about one bot program: bot285 aka bot396. I read somewhere in this post, dont know excactly who said it, that no-one of them has been hacked. Their site has over 20k of members. fact.

3. "The real thing is that Joymax allow them to do it!"
Aah well. It aint your game right? You clearly dont know how much work is involved in game designing. Let Joymax handle their own bussiness. You make demands and treaths like you own everything in this world. You are just a customer. If you bought some clothes, and after a while they start to fall out , you dont go over to the shop to smack it up right?

4. "- Offer for JoyMax, was sended hundred of times, by bug-report and for an main JoyMax e-mail adress. No response contribute to make this manifesto."
I've send you an email 2. Asking if you need help killing the botters in silkroad, and showing my support. No response. Want a better world? start with yourself.

O yeah, Hacking maybe legal in poland, You'd better hacked a polish server then. Because in the rest of the world it is illigal.

I'd like to hear what you have to say to my downsites of this hacked thing

I support you 100%. I said most of the stuff same as you;

1) He hacks accounts just for his own good, taking items and so on.

2) Its not his game, its JoyMax's, he is just a costumer and he should say thanks for this game being free, if he dont like it he can always quit.

3) Hacking is illegal, yet he is saying bullshit about how legal it is in Poland, hahahahahahahah.

In the buttom of line I repeat myself again I support you 100% Leipo bro.


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miho wrote:
100% hoax for sure, but the idea is nice.


Hahhaha Miho Miho Miho LOLoooooL

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miho wrote:
100% hoax for sure, but the idea is nice.


Hahhaha Miho Miho Miho LOLoooooL


hahaha lol ^^

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