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 Post subject: I need a guinea pig who has Adelphia and can't connect
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:15 pm 
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I think I have a couple solutions to the problem everyone's having with Adelphia but I need someone to test it. So if you have MSN or AIM, PM me plz :)

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well I tested it with one person so far and it didn't quite work so now I need someone with Adelphia that can't connect who doesn't use as router, as in connects one computer to the modem directly and that's it. I'm very very very confident this will fix it so I need a volunteer. PM me plz if U want to help.

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hey i connect using a cable modem.. via direct pc conection no router.. pls .. pm me or email me. im more than game to help let me know..


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sweet I got a couple volunteers and I actually have a 100% for sure way to fix it for everyone forever, I just need to figure out the domain name of the servers. I could have swarn venice was CR9.silkroadonline.net but I guess not. I know they named venice CR9 cuz I've seen an error about connecting to it. It just won't tell me the rest of the name and it's not hosted from the same domain as their website I guess. If anyone knows, PM ME ASAP! The IP of the servers would work fine too

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sweet I got a couple volunteers and I actually have a 100% for sure way to fix it for everyone forever, I just need to figure out the domain name of the servers. I could have swarn venice was CR9.silkroadonline.net but I guess not. I know they named venice CR9 cuz I've seen an error about connecting to it. It just won't tell me the rest of the name and it's not hosted from the same domain as their website I guess. If anyone knows, PM ME ASAP! The IP of the servers would work fine too

Uh, C9 is an error code....
Its not that hard to get the servers IP, login to the game, check connections

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yeeeeeeah, the check connections part is the hard part. I turned on my router's log, tries to use the IP tracking feature in spybot, tried checking my DNS cache, and it's not in any of them! grrrrrrrrrr. Ya think I should e-mail em?

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yeeeeeeah, the check connections part is the hard part. I turned on my router's log, tries to use the IP tracking feature in spybot, tried checking my DNS cache, and it's not in any of them! grrrrrrrrrr. Ya think I should e-mail em?

If email them = google to find simple ans, yes

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I googled 4 different searches, nobody knows or has them posted online :( I did send the solution and request for the addresses in the bug report form though cuz I couldn't find a direct e-mail. Btw I'm really confused now because almost no DNS tools work with silkroadonline.net anymore and the old IPs don't respond the way they did so maybe they're changed. No wonder Adelphia blocked them, what they did it downright sneaky. No idea why they did it though. I'm thinking the game servers are just IPs and ppl just can't load the latest updates from the website in the game's loading screen so they can't get any further. If that's the case, I would have been able to tell you all how to fix it already. It would just involve adding an entry to your hosts file turning the silkroadonlinet.net straight into the correct IP locally instead of asking the DNS server to do that. That's basically the fix but it's useless without the correct IP address(es)

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It would just involve adding an entry to your hosts file turning the silkroadonlinet.net straight into the correct IP locally instead of asking the DNS server to do that.

Wait a min...
Wait a min....
BAM !
Thats what joymax already posted a howto on.

I'm def not going to answer how to get server IPs for you, because you claim to be experianced...rofl.

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I didn't see Joymax post anything so i definitely think you're lying. If they did, they would have posted the IP's along with them and someone would have told me already. And you have absolutely no idea how to find out what they are so stop posting.

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Rofl, as I said, its basic. I just asked a 13 year old and he knew, granted he likes computers, but if you claim to be an expert...

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Hello. This is Silkroad Online.

There are users at the moment that are not able to connect to Silkroad Online. We have posted this previously in the Forum in the subforum "General Technical Issues/Bug Reports". If you cannot connect to the game, please try the following steps:

1. Go to path C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\ and open filename 'hosts' with notepad.

2. Erase the previous localhost and gwgt1.joymax.com entries and enter the following information in the opened file, 'hosts':

127.0.0.1 localhost
121.128.133.26 gwgt1.joymax.com

3. Reboot computer, and try running Silkroad Online again.

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well it's just like them to hide it somewhere dumb like that. Yeah, let's put the solution to people's problem about not being about to connect to the website...on the website. I reinvented the wheel and got a lot further than you did mister copy everything from Joymax. I seriously doubt that you or a 13 year old could have determined the IP and domain by yourself without copying it from there.
Well people, that will fix it. Spread that word around.

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desolator144 wrote:
well it's just like them to hide it somewhere dumb like that. Yeah, let's put the solution to people's problem about not being about to connect to the website...on the website. I reinvented the wheel and got a lot further than you did mister copy everything from Joymax. I seriously doubt that you or a 13 year old could have determined the IP and domain by yourself without copying it from there.
Well people, that will fix it. Spread that word around.


DNS server handling your query: localhost
DNS server's address: 127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
gwgt1.joymax.com canonical name = gwgt1.joymax.co.kr.
Name: gwgt1.joymax.co.kr
Address: 121.128.133.26


And it doesn't fix it for adelphia, a simple run -> cmd -> nslookup.

Please don't claim to be an expert when you have no idea about what is going on.

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you gotta be kidding me. Okay genius, since you clearly don't know, those statements do the following:
127.0.0.1 is called the loopback address. It loops back to your computer. The psuedo-DNS assigned to it is "localhost" The entry you add to your hosts file translates gwgt1.joymax.co.kr into 121.128.133.26 BEFORE it leaves your computer instead of sending gwgt1.joymax.co.kr out to your ISP's DNS server for it to translate it to the correct IP. Since Adelphia people had the entry blocked/removed from their DNS servers, it can't connect and that's why adding a localhosts entry for it fixes it (cuz IPs bypass the DNS server) Like if you put in google.com, your computer sends that to the DNS server which looks up what IP address google.com points too and send U there. But if U put in 64.233.187.99, it loads google's site without stopping at the DNS server because that's google's IP address.
And nslookup does nothing but tell you the address of the primary DNS server you're using so dunno why you posted that.
Why don't U wait till U go to college to start insulting a true computer expert's knowledge and skills.

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you gotta be kidding me. Okay genius, since you clearly don't know, those statements do the following:
127.0.0.1 is called the loopback address. It loops back to your computer. The psuedo-DNS assigned to it is "localhost" The entry you add to your hosts file translates gwgt1.joymax.co.kr into 121.128.133.26 BEFORE it leaves your computer instead of sending gwgt1.joymax.co.kr out to your ISP's DNS server for it to translate it to the correct IP. Since Adelphia people had the entry blocked/removed from their DNS servers, it can't connect and that's why adding a localhosts entry for it fixes it (cuz IPs bypass the DNS server) Like if you put in google.com, your computer sends that to the DNS server which looks up what IP address google.com points too and send U there. But if U put in 64.233.187.99, it loads google's site without stopping at the DNS server because that's google's IP address.
And nslookup does nothing but tell you the address of the primary DNS server you're using so dunno why you posted that.
Why don't U wait till U go to college to start insulting a true computer expert's knowledge and skills.

Lol? I didn't do the lookup from my computer. I did it from one of those websites .
Adelpha did not update the DNS from the old one, adding the localhost did not fix it for any of them. Try reading other threads?

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Adelpha did not update the DNS from the old one

that wouldn't matter because like I said, the localhosts file makes your computer ask for an IP and completely bypasses the DNS server. Doman Name Servers convert names into IPs so i they left it pointed towards an old IP, banned it, deleted the entry, whatever, it wouldn't matter because your computer never stops at the DNS server. For this to not work, Adelphia would have had to outright banned their IP also. That's not unlikely. Joymax just needs to cut the sneaky bullshit now and we'd be fine.
So working solutions currently are:
- switch ISP's (but not to Comcast, AOL, or SBC cuz they suck ass! And also AOL has a history of banning servers that do what joymax's are doing too and Comcast is about to be sued into bankruptcy for advertising practices and SBC is too slow) You actually may be able to switch to Road Runner using the exact same modem and same everything really.
- find a free proxy that has the port that SRO uses open, allows a game amount of traffic, and doesn't record your password (good luck with that one)
- use remote desktop/remote assitance to a computer not on an Adelphia connection and play it at like 2 frames/sec with 5 second lag :P
- connect to your neighbor's wireless if they don't have Adelphia
- run a 100 foot ethernet cord to your neighbor's house if they don't have Adelphia.
- complain to Time Warner because they own Adelphia and Road Runner and Road Runner didn't block it.
- Use Road Runner dialup because yes Adelphia ppl are allowed, there's just no guarantee there's a local number to call.
- wait until someone hacks it and opens a private server not owned by Joymax
- hack the Adelphia DNS server you're on and remove the ban
- find a public DNS server that will let you on and use it instead (this may or may not work)
- go read a book :P

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- use remote desktop/remote assitance to a computer not on an Adelphia connection and play it at like 2 frames/sec with 5 second lag :P

You realize D3D doesn't work with RD?

- find a public DNS server that will let you on and use it instead (this may or may not work)
Not gonna happen, L3 DNS don't work for Adelphia people, but work fine for me.

- find a free proxy that has the port that SRO uses open, allows a game amount of traffic, and doesn't record your password (good luck with that one)
Your freedom maybe? I posted a guide that worked for 20+ people that msged me.

Thanks for playing.

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only you would think this is a game and any proxy you posted, I'd DOS, not connect to. I trust U as far as I could throw you and I bet you're 300 pounds.

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desolator144 wrote:
only you would think this is a game and any proxy you posted, I'd DOS, not connect to. I trust U as far as I could throw you and I bet you're 300 pounds.

You bet wrong. ^^

YF is a relativly large proxy company, used to get around firewalls at offices and universities, alot of the users play wow, ect.

Your a moron. ^^

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Your a moron. ^^
I think that speaks for itself. You're very entertaining.

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Your a moron. ^^
I think that speaks for itself. You're very entertaining.

You're good at claiming you are an expert, when you can't manage nslookup / reading main site.

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wow .. as always ... it goes from let me try to help to full blast b!tching at the end ... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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wow .. as always ... it goes from let me try to help to full blast b!tching at the end ... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Yes, I know it is not a DNS issue, cause I have used alternate DNS. I had also tried the hosts file a few weeks back it didn't work. I tried masking my IP and that didn't work. The only way I could connect was through a proxy(WHICH WAS SLOW AS ****). I only used this to update the game and i have the current 1.062 version. Just sucks since I cannot play. Now stop bitching at each other b/c thats not what this forum is for.

Technical help is not what I am getting, but maybe mental help for both of you would be great.(chaud and desolator)

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things learned in this thread:

Desolator does not understand how DNS/DNS Servers work.

"Hack into the DNS servers and remove the ban."

????????????

Think about these points:

Users on "Adelphia" cannot surf by URL.
Users on "Adelphia" cannot surf by IP.

What is the number one clue that there is no DNS issue here? The users cannot even surf by IP! Please educate yourself further.

This is definitely a routing issue. By entering a proxy you are entering new peering points which is allowing access. Something is blocking the Adelphia and/or thier Level 1 providers from accessing the site.


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alittlebird wrote:
things learned in this thread:

Desolator does not understand how DNS/DNS Servers work.

"Hack into the DNS servers and remove the ban."

????????????

Think about these points:

Users on "Adelphia" cannot surf by URL.
Users on "Adelphia" cannot surf by IP.

What is the number one clue that there is no DNS issue here? The users cannot even surf by IP! Please educate yourself further.

This is definitely a routing issue. By entering a proxy you are entering new peering points which is allowing access. Something is blocking the Adelphia and/or thier Level 1 providers from accessing the site.

No, clearly he is an expert. He says so on the internets, and proves a lack of knowdlege so it must be true!

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Desolator does not understand how DNS/DNS Servers work.

you've got to be KIDDING ME! Just because you don't understand how everything really works that means the fact that I do proves I don't know anything? Wow, great logic. It has everything to do with DNS. The exact reason for this whole thing is that Joymax changed something so that their IP's no longer have any reverse DNS information attached to them. Since you're an idiot, take a sec to read how reverse DNS works:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/info/revdns.htm
Then take a look for yourself, dumbass.
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=121.128.133.11
"No PTR records exist for 121.128.133.11" That's their main website's IP.
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rev2.kornet.net. (an authoritative nameserver for 133.128.121.in-addr.arpa., which is in charge of the reverse DNS for 121.128.133.11)
says that there are no PTR records for 121.128.133.11. Note that all Internet accessible hosts are expected to have a reverse DNS entry (per RFC1912 2.1),
and many mailservers (such as AOL) will likely block E-mail from mailservers with no reverse DNS entry.

Joymax told their host they want a one way DNS where the domain name can be translated into an IP but the IP can't be turned back in a domain name and Adelphia didn't like that so they definitely banned their IP and most likely deleted/banned the entry for their domain name on their domain name servers.
Now stop acting like you know more than me or anything at all really.

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I know how to drift and you don't o.O .. (For real)
But anyways, everyone has something they are better at.
Quit bitching at each other basically, the situation already sucks for Adelphia users, and you two shouting at each other like little kids doesn't solve a thing.
There is nothing users can do them selves, it's all up to the isp's.

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Regardless, it is Adelphias fault, and you will not get it fixed unless you call and compalin. Squeeky wheel gets the grease?

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hey if Adelphia didn't block servers without reverse DNS, their customers would get double the spam. But then again they're stupid for blocking non-mail servers, though it's hard to tell. I think Joymax should put it back to normal, though they could have changed it in response to someone doing something related to hacking such as writing a bot that's a trojan that rewrites the host file so it connects to a dummy server that just records their password. The real solution...ban all those vietnamese hackers ;) rofl jk, the real solution is to bitch at both companies, thus doubling the odds that one will cave.

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Desolator does not understand how DNS/DNS Servers work.

"Hack into the DNS servers and remove the ban."

????????????

lmao, you're really funny. Lemme clear up some of those ?????'s for ya:
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Oh yes, how could I even include hacking into it and removing the ban as an option, it's so terribly hard. There's even a wizard for the damn thing in Windows Server:
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And of course remove the ban doesn't mean remove a ban because in DNS terms, a ban is the non-existence of a zone/record/whatever so you'd just add the DNS PTR info and you're set. But don't look at me, I got Road Runner so I wouldn't do that, lol.

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