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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:49 pm 
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Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.



Hi, you have no idea about International and PL law work, I won't even try to explain and argue since you won't read it. But here are some key point you might want to look at.

1: You know that TOS that you sign when you register an account, go back and read that.
2: All Ingame item belong to JM, the player have no ground to pursue anything. And you violate the TOS in the first place.
3: JM can't pursue the matter because Santa is not hacking them.
4: Bot maker can't sue because LOL you do know they take no responsibility for the use of their program right? you use a bot at your own risk.

The only thing that is court related in SRO, is JM for not taking action to prevent CCF. Any victim of CCF as a result of silk buying can take JM to court.

(Hi,

*seems like you dont know what law's are and period. Its not a local law, its universal law, and I know poland way more then you think I know as in the 10/4/06 I am going to be there for a week, again. Means; hacking aint allowed in every western country, same as do not kill and so on, basic stuff.

*Botter user cannot be sued, but the bot company can. Its like drugs, they'll first go for the dealer.

*You are invading someone else's account, that is hacking, he spent money on buying silks and so on, so yes you can get sued, a person can say you hacked is account after he spent so much money on silks, then yeh, you're the one to blame, not him..

Have a nice day.


LOL, no you have no idea what your talking about, call your local prosecutor and ask them what can be sue and what’s not. Universal law of what? Hacking? Since when is there a universal law on hacking? It’s all about local lawmaker, if your country has no law regarding hacking you can do it as you wish, its jurisdiction.

Also don't bring the "do not kill" BS as a point to strength your argument if your not prepare to back that up.

Botter can be sue, but not the bot company, they only produce the product, which is legal in china. However, if you live the in the United state you cannot use it, it’s a breaching of contract on top of modification of copyrighted material, the law regarding this is the location in which you sign up your account and the location of where you log into the server with modify client.

Please go back to your example of drug and how they go after the dealer and make sense of yourself.

Finally re-read my post, all in game item belong to JM including your silk. Here is JM stance

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Though your account is for the most part available for your own usage, you do not own the content and ultimately the account itself. The account is Joymax's intellectual property... Q/A 8-27

that mean you own nothing and nothing belong to you, not your ID not your PW, nothing.

Yes there is a rule in whole europe so dont say bullshit about hacking is allowed on poland cause its 100% not, so stop making fool outta yourself.

Dont make yourself a saint, ur worse as those filthy botters with ur hacking, who the hell you think u are to hack people's accounts and I dont care either if they are botters or not, that's GM's work, not urs... you think i'll support a small hacker that hack botters just to get stuff into his own pocket? dont make me friggin laugh will ya.

You hacking accounts with silks, yes its JM's silks but the COSTUMER bought it, and YOU hacked it, not JM did, so yes YOU are the one to get sued.

tata, chow4now.



LOL no YOUR making a fool out of yourself, go call up your local prosecutor, or who ever your getting legal advice from then come back and talk about hacking law.

Also saint or not what he do is none of your business, did you see the page? did you use any of those PW? well heres the thing

If granted that your whole argument is right, and that everything he does is illegal. LOL guess what buddy? everysingle person who log into any of those account can be sue. When you click on that link you dam well know exacly where that's going to take you, and jsut by looking at those info alone you are invading other poeple's privacy. lol, bet you didn't think of that did ya?

Unless he is not violating any law by posting that info, which if you talk to your legal adviser they will tell you Santa is not breaking any rule. So are the Board admin and everyone else that come to that page are not liable.

Also please re-read my post again your still not making any sense. like i said. All item belong to JM, and they allow you to use their material with limit. As long as Santa have sign up an account prior to cleaning out those account he abide by JM rule.

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i have now found the web page that this supposed vigilante used to get my account information. i will not post the url for fear of getting my account on this forum banned. i am sort of new to forums but encourage other to help me get this info out. I would especially like to hear from forum moderators. To further my claim i used this site about 2 weeks ago and it is a polish site.


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i have now found the web page that this supposed vigilante used to get my account information. i will not post the url for fear of getting my account on this forum banned. i am sort of new to forums but encourage other to help me get this info out. I would especially like to hear from forum moderators. To further my claim i used this site about 2 weeks ago and it is a polish site.

The one that claims to be a bot, with all those options you can configure?

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Hm, why there are so many new forum accounts posting in this thread? Odd..


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The_KlNG wrote:
lollol wrote:
The_KlNG wrote:
lollol wrote:
The_KlNG wrote:
lollol wrote:
Good Job, but ...

You do realize that's invading people's private area such as hacking them they way you do can get your ass into jail and open urself a record ? just so you'll know what ur doing to ur future...I mean a lot of people knows who u are XMAT, and hackers Mr.XMAT, police doesn't like...and you're not even a proper hacker, I could trace your ass from miles just from you writing on this forum...

Good Job, but think about the consequences that your future will have, I've seen many of my hacking friends getting a records for this kind of stuff, which is too bad, they have no future with this record everytime they try to find a job.

Think about it. If only one guy complains about you to a police, ur ip is just signed here on forum.



Hi, you have no idea about International and PL law work, I won't even try to explain and argue since you won't read it. But here are some key point you might want to look at.

1: You know that TOS that you sign when you register an account, go back and read that.
2: All Ingame item belong to JM, the player have no ground to pursue anything. And you violate the TOS in the first place.
3: JM can't pursue the matter because Santa is not hacking them.
4: Bot maker can't sue because LOL you do know they take no responsibility for the use of their program right? you use a bot at your own risk.

The only thing that is court related in SRO, is JM for not taking action to prevent CCF. Any victim of CCF as a result of silk buying can take JM to court.

(Hi,

*seems like you dont know what law's are and period. Its not a local law, its universal law, and I know poland way more then you think I know as in the 10/4/06 I am going to be there for a week, again. Means; hacking aint allowed in every western country, same as do not kill and so on, basic stuff.

*Botter user cannot be sued, but the bot company can. Its like drugs, they'll first go for the dealer.

*You are invading someone else's account, that is hacking, he spent money on buying silks and so on, so yes you can get sued, a person can say you hacked is account after he spent so much money on silks, then yeh, you're the one to blame, not him..

Have a nice day.


LOL, no you have no idea what your talking about, call your local prosecutor and ask them what can be sue and what’s not. Universal law of what? Hacking? Since when is there a universal law on hacking? It’s all about local lawmaker, if your country has no law regarding hacking you can do it as you wish, its jurisdiction.

Also don't bring the "do not kill" BS as a point to strength your argument if your not prepare to back that up.

Botter can be sue, but not the bot company, they only produce the product, which is legal in china. However, if you live the in the United state you cannot use it, it’s a breaching of contract on top of modification of copyrighted material, the law regarding this is the location in which you sign up your account and the location of where you log into the server with modify client.

Please go back to your example of drug and how they go after the dealer and make sense of yourself.

Finally re-read my post, all in game item belong to JM including your silk. Here is JM stance

Quote:
Though your account is for the most part available for your own usage, you do not own the content and ultimately the account itself. The account is Joymax's intellectual property... Q/A 8-27

that mean you own nothing and nothing belong to you, not your ID not your PW, nothing.

Yes there is a rule in whole europe so dont say bullshit about hacking is allowed on poland cause its 100% not, so stop making fool outta yourself.

Dont make yourself a saint, ur worse as those filthy botters with ur hacking, who the hell you think u are to hack people's accounts and I dont care either if they are botters or not, that's GM's work, not urs... you think i'll support a small hacker that hack botters just to get stuff into his own pocket? dont make me friggin laugh will ya.

You hacking accounts with silks, yes its JM's silks but the COSTUMER bought it, and YOU hacked it, not JM did, so yes YOU are the one to get sued.

tata, chow4now.



LOL no YOUR making a fool out of yourself, go call up your local prosecutor, or who ever your getting legal advice from then come back and talk about hacking law.

Also saint or not what he do is none of your business, did you see the page? did you use any of those PW? well heres the thing

If granted that your whole argument is right, and that everything he does is illegal. LOL guess what buddy? everysingle person who log into any of those account can be sue. When you click on that link you dam well know exacly where that's going to take you, and jsut by looking at those info alone you are invading other poeple's privacy. lol, bet you didn't think of that did ya?

Unless he is not violating any law by posting that info, which if you talk to your legal adviser they will tell you Santa is not breaking any rule. So are the Board admin and everyone else that come to that page are not liable.

Also please re-read my post again your still not making any sense. like i said. All item belong to JM, and they allow you to use their material with limit. As long as Santa have sign up an account prior to cleaning out those account he abide by JM rule.

I dont trust polish peoples (no offence i aint racist) so I didn't even bother looking at it. I am not stupid, unlike other people that's why I aint either support you or gonna watch what you are "doing" with "cleaning" this game, while what you do is taking for urself items.

I did read your post and understood it very well, I think you're the one who didnt figure out what I've wrote, then read it again, and again till you get it into ur head; its none of ur shitty buisness how to handle botters, JM doing it on their way, you're not friggin allowed to do whatever you want hacking people, if JM wanted to stop botters they would of stopped them retard...


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hahahaha santa list site got legaly deleted...i thought u said its allowed? fu kin noob haha thinks he knows all.


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lollol wrote:
hahahaha santa list site got legaly deleted...i thought u said its allowed? fu kin noob haha thinks he knows all.
Unless I'm looking at the wrong site, the site is still up.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:09 pm 
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This is what he wrote to me in my inbox.

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thought u said its legal lolololol why it got legaly deleted then?

lolololol mr I know it all. I hope also some police gets on to u polish hackers wannabe's.

lol i cant wait to see ur comment after ur speechs of how legal it is.


Man, all i did was present my argument and allowing feedback. Due to people who spread stupid rumor like Santa is getting sue/jail/stupid BS The list is not mine, i'm not polish. Dude... your jsut so lame.

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Tired of seeing this thread at the top every day.

And tired of arguing.

And we don't support hackers, regardless of the cause.


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