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Chaud
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:54 am |
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Bows arent perfect at 1v1, but are great in wars.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:04 am |
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Yeah, they suck PvP as stated above. What's worse is ice-bow. Almost everyone, including myself, is immune to freeze. It's good for support since you've got range and can attack from far away, picking off people with crits.
However, I think this bowman would rape any of us:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=18202[/url]
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Palis
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:06 am |
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Somebody set up bows the bomb?
Actually, bows can be good at pvp... tho for them to be able to do sufficient damage i think they would need to be a hybrid build. I have fought alot of pure str bow users (as a pure int) and unless they have had an sos or +7 bow with high crit, i have almost always been able to tank.
The only advice i can offer you is, if you want to be a bow user, and do well at pvp, go hybrid... maybe 1:1 or 1:2 int.
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Chaud
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:17 am |
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Hybrid bow = what we joke around about.
Bad idea.
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Palis
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:32 am |
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chaud wrote: Hybrid bow = what we joke around about. Bad idea.
But, if done right = Deadly.
I have seen hybrid bow builds out perform pure str bows in pvp. Perhaps it was due to equipment... i don't know, but i hardly think that it's a build to be "joked around about."
It's also an excellent build for unique killing  take Wind from aege for example, a balanced hybrid bow on Aege, he's almost always killing Isy, he also kicks ass in pvp. So there is your proof that it isn't a sucky build.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:34 am |
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good for you to be able to tank bows, actually i love having my bow guildmates as running mates in hunter or thief runs. They scout and are able to run away the best, and when you target someone, you know they'll be at a safe distance ready to launch an extra 3-9k of damage depending on how lucky they get with crits  and when you are already dealing out tons of damage up close, that extra damage can be a huge blessing.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:35 am |
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Palis wrote: chaud wrote: Hybrid bow = what we joke around about. Bad idea. But, if done right = Deadly. I have seen hybrid bow builds out perform pure str bows in pvp. Perhaps it was due to equipment... i don't know, but i hardly think that it's a build to be "joked around about." It's also an excellent build for unique killing  take Wind from aege for example, a balanced hybrid bow on Aege, he's almost always killing Isy, he also kicks ass in pvp. So there is your proof that it isn't a sucky build.
The only way you can do a hybrid bow right is if you reroll it.
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amazn
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:35 am |
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yea bows arnt the best at pvp so we gotta act sneaky. snipe some retreat hit and run etc.
str fire and light is what i am and its going good for me.
if you are going hybrid, bowers are not the way to go
btw im actually thinking about getting autumn wind, seeing that i only have 4 pvp skills, i want some input as to how autumn wind would help in pvp.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:37 am |
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amazn wrote: yea bows arnt the best at pvp so we gotta act sneaky. snipe some retreat hit and run etc.
str fire and light is what i am and its going good for me. if you are going hybrid, bowers are not the way to go
btw im actually thinking about getting autumn wind, seeing that i only have 4 pvp skills, i want some input as to how autumn wind would help in pvp.
It would help your opponent more than it would help you.
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:45 am |
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Bows do alot of dmg, more then glaivers(devil arrow at least does more then any glaive skill) I think, but the skills are slower, and the combo really sux, (+50%) really sux, it barely does anything in pvp, the only reason they arent that good is because they dont have anyhting to stop atks like glaivers and bladers do, I have killed a str glaiver before, and then couldnt kill him if he stuns, so definatly the dmg isnt to weak for 1on1.
My build is 105% phys 47% mag balance, with a +5 64bow(ugh, now actualy I tried to +6 and ended up with +4, cant get +5 back -.-).
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Chaud
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:56 am |
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If by deadly you mean deadly laughter ensues, then yes.
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Avalanche
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:30 am |
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Gah why do people think bows suck. They do the most damage IMO, and completely own nukers. For everyone on Xian whos knows Lau (don't know the whole name) she is in full SOS and yoxoyo 2-3 hits her with his bow >.>
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Palis
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:47 am |
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chaud wrote: If by deadly you mean deadly laughter ensues, then yes.
Heh.. heh..
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Pake1
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:56 am |
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We can kill nukers easy, 1-2 crits tops with arrow combo.
But glaives and blades can too.
Seeing as how the bow does in pvp, I have to guess the only attacks you have at the cap that are worth while are anti devi/ and devil arrow (optional arrow combo to fight autopot)
All in all bow is a good build, very nice unique killer and kser. Once you get your 3rd book anti devil, grinding gets soo much bearable at higher levels. every 3rd-4th shot is a guaranteed crit.
So yeah, archers can lvl up pretty quick since they don't have to move up to the mob and kill it.
I still think JoyMax should implement miss as an archer only buff *lvl 60. Hey we can all dream right.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:59 am |
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Pake1 wrote: We can kill nukers easy, 1-2 crits tops with arrow combo.
But glaives and blades can too.
Seeing as how the bow does in pvp, I have to guess the only attacks you have at the cap that are worth while are anti devi/ and devil arrow (optional arrow combo to fight autopot)
All in all bow is a good build, very nice unique killer and kser. Once you get your 3rd book anti devil, grinding gets soo much bearable at higher levels. every 3rd-4th shot is a guaranteed crit.
So yeah, archers can lvl up pretty quick since they don't have to move up to the mob and kill it.
I still think JoyMax should implement miss as an archer only buff *lvl 60. Hey we can all dream right.
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No blader teamed with another blader or glaiver teamed with another blade can kill Lau, yoxoyo can kill her 1v1 with ease.
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Pake1
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:02 am |
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oh yeah, they kick ass as support too.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:32 am |
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Archers only seem to suck because people fight like they have a glaive. They run in head first and use 2 skills over and over again and don't know when to retreat. Bow isn't good in 1v1 but great in group pvp when used correctly.
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FBIRem
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:35 am |
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AvAlAnChE1 wrote: Pake1 wrote: We can kill nukers easy, 1-2 crits tops with arrow combo.
But glaives and blades can too.
Seeing as how the bow does in pvp, I have to guess the only attacks you have at the cap that are worth while are anti devi/ and devil arrow (optional arrow combo to fight autopot)
All in all bow is a good build, very nice unique killer and kser. Once you get your 3rd book anti devil, grinding gets soo much bearable at higher levels. every 3rd-4th shot is a guaranteed crit.
So yeah, archers can lvl up pretty quick since they don't have to move up to the mob and kill it.
I still think JoyMax should implement miss as an archer only buff *lvl 60. Hey we can all dream right.
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eh? Phunky beats LauHauXiang 1v1
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Avalanche
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:42 am |
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FBIRem wrote: AvAlAnChE1 wrote: Pake1 wrote: We can kill nukers easy, 1-2 crits tops with arrow combo.
But glaives and blades can too.
Seeing as how the bow does in pvp, I have to guess the only attacks you have at the cap that are worth while are anti devi/ and devil arrow (optional arrow combo to fight autopot)
All in all bow is a good build, very nice unique killer and kser. Once you get your 3rd book anti devil, grinding gets soo much bearable at higher levels. every 3rd-4th shot is a guaranteed crit.
So yeah, archers can lvl up pretty quick since they don't have to move up to the mob and kill it.
I still think JoyMax should implement miss as an archer only buff *lvl 60. Hey we can all dream right.
[/i] No blader teamed with another blader or glaiver teamed with another blade can kill Lau, yoxoyo can kill her 1v1 with ease. eh? Phunky beats LauHauXiang 1v1
phunky is god how dare you call him a blader
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Deadly EYez
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:08 am |
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chaud wrote: If by deadly you mean deadly laughter ensues, then yes.
Nope he means Deadly EYez 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:19 am |
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ive seen Fly (when he was a blade) take down lau too...
i have yet to see someone take down duck_egg though... 1v1 that is... okay back on topic...
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Zhen
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:48 am |
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I always feel like being bow user is sucky because everyone questing around me seem to do higher damage and I always use +3 bows with anti-devil bow up to my lvl. But maybe they are actually higher lvl but wearing lower lvl equipment. I don't know...I always feel incompetent as a bow user.
Anyhoot, what do you think of an Int-Hybrid, Bow/Nuker?
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:50 am |
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Lau, phunky, duck, any others like that shouldnt be compared to fighting normaly because they are decked out in sos, even a really strong normal player with really good normal gear wont stand a chance <_<, hopefully by the time we get 3rd set of 8th degree it will be diff though.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:24 am |
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THis belongs to my guildie, PepsiOne. I use it on my alt. It pwns.
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Pake1
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:42 am |
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I've been waiting for this drop -_-, what was your guildie grinding on when he got this godly drop?
noob question~ dura still decreases even with steady on?
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