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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:06 am 
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Hey,

Me, My Brother & Cousin Are Currently Thinking About Farming A Char Each.
We Will Be Training Together In Party's So What Would Be The Best Builds For Us To Create?

One Build That We Currently Want is a Warrior/Cleric, What Should The Other 2 builds Be For This Sort Of Group To Work Well?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:19 am 
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dizkonnect wrote:
Hey,

Me, My Brother & Cousin Are Currently Thinking About Farming A Char Each.
We Will Be Training Together In Party's So What Would Be The Best Builds For Us To Create?

One Build That We Currently Want is a Warrior/Cleric, What Should The Other 2 builds Be For This Sort Of Group To Work Well?

Thanks in Advance,

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:42 pm 
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Yeah, My Brother Wants a Wizard/bard for Unique Hunting, But what Other Build Would Be Best if We Have These Two?

Missing One Build

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:16 pm 
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rogue/warlock is the only thing missing right?

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i'M nOT qUITE sURE aCTUALLY... hOW aBOUT oNE wARRIOR/rOGUE, oNE wIZARD/aNYTHING aND oNE cLERIC/aNYTHING?

tHAT mIGHT wORK :)

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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Warrior/Rogue? What skills would i level in each Mastery? i don't think i have seen a build like that before :/

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I'd get the 1h warrior skills, warrior buffs. And on the Rogue I'd go for almost every skill you can find (apart from scorn).

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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Okay, i guess that could work; do you know any characters that have this build?

i don't think i want to try something that might fail or all the time i spend farming is wasted

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i'M nOT qUITE sURE aCTUALLY... hOW aBOUT oNE wARRIOR/rOGUE, oNE wIZARD/aNYTHING aND oNE cLERIC/aNYTHING?

tHAT mIGHT wORK :)

I see what u did there :sohappy:

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aha lol, it was as i used a tablet to write them as i wasn't at home, and it put capitals at the words, stupid piece of ______ :L

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dizkonnect wrote:
Okay, i guess that could work; do you know any characters that have this build?

i don't think i want to try something that might fail or all the time i spend farming is wasted

Yeah lol, it's a "common" build. There are a few ones out there and they ain't that bad.

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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Hm... may have to "persuade" my brother to farm a char with me and take that build :P and i will do a Warrior/Cleric as i know they are good as i had a level 90+ one before i gave up like 2 years or so ago

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dizkonnect wrote:
Hm... may have to "persuade" my brother to farm a char with me and take that build :P and i will do a Warrior/Cleric as i know they are good as i had a level 90+ one before i gave up like 2 years or so ago

Warrior/Rogue is IMO better then /Cleric. When I PvP Warrior/Cleric is never a threat. But if it's a Warrior/Rogue well that's a whole different story...

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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One go Warrior/rogue other go Bard/cleric

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With Bard/Cleric do you go INT or STR though? and would you spend skill point for attacking skills, if so Bard or Cleric Attack Skills?

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You'd go int.

Get all the bard attacks, except the absolutes. Then get the Cleric absolutes and justice/trial cross, as well as offering ofc.

Oh, and I should add, the attack skills are not mandatory to play either class in a party. But they help immensely.


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Okay this is a definite maybe :D
seems like a very good build

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Best Warrior/Rogue ever in action...


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pizzagirl2008 wrote:
Best Warrior/Rogue ever in action...


You do realize that the only reason he's any good is because he has OP gear, and because he's spamming vigors and hp grains.

Without the grains he couldn't do shit.


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pizzagirl2008 wrote:
Best Warrior/Rogue ever in action...


You do realize that the only reason he's any good is because he has OP gear, and because he's spamming vigors and hp grains.

Without the grains he couldn't do shit.


Back when the vid was released, he was pvping with:
- Silver prem vs Premium+ (some had honor buffs)
- all opponents had equal sets if not better (+7 or sun)
- he mainly used +7 dagger vs minimum +7 or better (alot of suns shown in vid)
- people in the vid also use vigor and hp grains and plus who da **** still complains about grains these days???

so explain again where he is OP???

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Everybody already knows EUR chars without /cleric will have to spam grains.

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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i didn't :( i stopped playing Silkroad a long time ago before the Euro was out.. so i have no idea about anything with Euro chars, that's why the 3 of us want to make Euro chars, but with thanks to you i do :P

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3/8 share pt will fail anyway, but I suggest choose wizard for the other 2 chars since you already have warrior.

There are only very few people who can play Warrior/Rogue. For that to be successful you need, 0 Delay, Best gears, Tons and Tons of sp.

I don't think Warrior/Rogue will be effective against Warlock or Force users.

There are few people I know in our server who tried warrior/rogue but eventually switch back to warrior/cleric or rogue/cleric.

To those people suggesting warrior/rogue, I bet you don't even have the balls to try that build and yet you suggest and say its the best.

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To those people suggesting warrior/rogue, I bet you don't even have the balls to try that build and yet you suggest and say its the best.

That was totally uncalled for.

You're right, I haven't tried the build. Do I "have the balls" to do it? Yes, but I won't. Simply because I hate warriors.

Why I told him to go with Warrior/Rogue was that it would benefit a 3/8 PT. He would be able to both tank and lure. I thought it would be effective to have one in the PT.

Don't be an ass.

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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lure? Seriously? 3/8 pt and you need to lure?

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To those people suggesting warrior/rogue, I bet you don't even have the balls to try that build and yet you suggest and say its the best.

That was totally uncalled for.

You're right, I haven't tried the build. Do I "have the balls" to do it? Yes, but I won't. Simply because I hate warriors.

Why I told him to go with Warrior/Rogue was that it would benefit a 3/8 PT. He would be able to both tank and lure. I thought it would be effective to have one in the PT.

Don't be an ass.


No, he won't. If he changes from warrior to rogure for luring, his warrior buffs will disappear and it's very likely that the ints (wizards) will die without the buffs. Especially for a 3-man pt the "lures" of a warrior should be enough. For a 3-man pt i'd suggest the following. It's still not comparable with a full pt, but it should be somewhat effective, considering, that you only have 3 people in the pt:

1 Warrior/Cleric (tanking and ress, if necessary)
1 Cleric/Warlock (healing the Warrior/Cleric, casting RD, Bless Spell, etc. and maybe switching to warlock for debuffing giants and giant pts to speed up the killing)
1 Wizard/Bard (damage and speed)

But really for a good share pt, you'll need at least around 6 people. Of course you'll get the best results with a full 8/8 share pt.


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jyushinshuu wrote:
To those people suggesting warrior/rogue, I bet you don't even have the balls to try that build and yet you suggest and say its the best.

That was totally uncalled for.

You're right, I haven't tried the build. Do I "have the balls" to do it? Yes, but I won't. Simply because I hate warriors.

Why I told him to go with Warrior/Rogue was that it would benefit a 3/8 PT. He would be able to both tank and lure. I thought it would be effective to have one in the PT.

Don't be an ass.


No, he won't. If he changes from warrior to rogure for luring, his warrior buffs will disappear and it's very likely that the ints (wizards) will die without the buffs. Especially for a 3-man pt the "lures" of a warrior should be enough. For a 3-man pt i'd suggest the following. It's still not comparable with a full pt, but it should be somewhat effective, considering, that you only have 3 people in the pt:

1 Warrior/Cleric (tanking and ress, if necessary)
1 Cleric/Warlock (healing the Warrior/Cleric, casting RD, Bless Spell, etc. and maybe switching to warlock for debuffing giants and giant pts to speed up the killing)
1 Wizard/Bard (damage and speed)

But really for a good share pt, you'll need at least around 6 people. Of course you'll get the best results with a full 8/8 share pt.

Well to be fair I didn't mean that he should do it at the same time...

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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Rogue was never welcome in Euro share pt. Warriors can lure better. In Euro party, you need warrior full time, cuz you need to be buffer for int, otherwise your wizards will die in 2 or 3 hits.

Why would you lure in 3/8 pt? That kind of pt could probably handle 2-3 mobs at a time, unless you are full sox.

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jyushinshuu wrote:
Rogue was never welcome in Euro share pt. Warriors can lure better. In Euro party, you need warrior full time, cuz you need to be buffer for int, otherwise your wizards will die in 2 or 3 hits.

Why would you lure in 3/8 pt? That kind of pt could probably handle 2-3 mobs at a time, unless you are full sox.

Rogues are allowed in eu pts... For their sub class xD
And a good eu pt only needs a warrior for lure, if the chars are right, mobs should never have the opportunity to hit you more than once.
I say warrior cleric, wiz bard, and wiz cleric. Chances are your 3/8 pt might not go as well as planned. Find some other people to fill out the pt. Even if you all don't stay together, any pt needs a warrior, cleric, wiz, or bard. And each char would have 2 of those 4 options. Though to tell the truth, when it comes to pt searching at higher levels, the bard might have more luck finding something...


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